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[archurban]

I am sorry. assumption is dangerous. all I can say that it is bull****. sorry again.

[IntrepidProdigy]

It is possible. Most people that don't think it's possible are thinking in terms of being in the mass effect universe themselves. Think meta-game. This asari conveniently happens to be a matriarch, mentions that she had a pure blood mate and that it didn't work out, and indirectly makes mention of benezia.

Not to go too off topic, but this isn't the only time where bioware gives these little hints and clues about characters throughout the game. For instance, Aria on Omega mentions that the "patriarch" isn't the only krogan she's pissed off, She mentions that she had commando training and that she was a merc, changed her name, and then at the end of one of her conversation strings bioware makes a point of her saying "better luck next time". These little clues might be missed if you don't pay attention, but it all points to Aria being Aleena from Wrex's story in ME1.

My point is that that you shouldn't rule the asari bartender out due to being cultivated by the immersion of the game. Instead, take notice of these little clues.

Modifié par IntrepidProdigy, 26 août 2010 - 08:23 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Matrons usually are responsible for raising children. A matriarch of nearly a millennium would be too old for a kid like Liara. Therefore chances are that the bartender is just nothing more than a cool bartender and not Liara's father.

[JockBuster]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Matrons usually are responsible for raising children. A matriarch of nearly a millennium would be too old for a kid like Liara. Therefore chances are that the bartender is just nothing more than a cool bartender and not Liara's father.

Maybe/maybe not, when I was born my mother was 41 & my father 47; mama died @ 103+ and papa @ 96+. I do not know how that would translate into Asari life span, so I would not rule out Liara's pureblood linage stemming from Benezia (mother) and Aethyta (farther). Plot twist, only BW knows for sure.

Modifié par JockBuster, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:45 .

[teh_spikey]

A surveilance video at the end of the Lair of the Shadowbroker lends some weight to the theory, IMO.

[DaBigDragon]

Yeah, the new vid of the Matriarch bartender staring at a picture of Liara pretty much confirms it.

[deaths origin]

why dont we just take liara with us when we talk to her for the first time

[MassEffect762]

Seems to be the case.

[ohnjay72]

I'd bet a quad on it! With all the information now at Liara's disposal, she's bound to come across something to confirm it on her end.

[Jigero]

Surprisingly it's actually true, One of the surveillance videos in the shadow broker DLC, she's staring longingly at a picture of Liara, unless she has some bizarre crush on Liara, the only other explanation is that she's her "father".

[Tyfreaky]

So its pretty much confirmed at this point that yes she is Liara's father.



Also confirmed:

Messing with biotic women who hang around Shepard is a good way to get biotically slammed into oblivion.

1) Miranda when her sister was threatened.

2) Jack when anyone is stupid enough to get in her way.

3) Samra, because you looked at her funny

4) Liara, because trying to show off in from of Shepard is a no no.

[Inverness Moon]

That asari bartender was an excellent character. And now to find out that she is most likely Liara's father, that is just awesome.

[Solaris Paradox]

Ah, that little periphery touch that means so much.

[didymos1120]

Jigero wrote...

Surprisingly it's actually true, One of the surveillance videos in the shadow broker DLC, she's staring longingly at a picture of Liara, unless she has some bizarre crush on Liara, the only other explanation is that she's her "father".

I wouldn't be surprised if her story about leaving Thessia isn't entirely true, and that she actually left because she found out Liara had set up shop on Iliium.

[Mister Mida]

I can't help but feel that if it is indeed so, it's nothing more than fan service. After all many people were already speculating that the bartender matriarch was Liara's other parent.

[vigna]

SwobyJ wrote...

DaBigDragon wrote...

Yeah, the new vid of the Matriarch bartender staring at a picture of Liara pretty much confirms it.

She better be. She:
1)is badass
2)makes a strong good drink
3)father was a krogan (meaning that, if you go by the genetic superstitions, Liara's got a little ruthlessness from her mother, and some toughness from her 'father')
4)most importantly, might be an asset. I saw some strong foreshadowing, if not in plot but in her character, when she mentioned that the asari and council were idiots for not building their own mass relays.. (or along those lines)
5)oh, and is still badass

You win the prize....theeee  priiiizzeeee. No, really I think thats the connection really. Plus she is a Matriarch.

[PillarBiter]

I was thinking along the same lines as the OP.

[Tamcia]

The vid in SB ship - I was like: DAM ZOOM IN NAOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't recall the bartenders name but is she the same as the one looking at Liaras picture?

edit: also did the bartender speak about her parents so much before the DLC? I thought I had all options covered, but when I went to visit her, I saw I could ask about her parents - info I did not know previously.

Modifié par Tamcia, 08 septembre 2010 - 12:05 .

[didymos1120]

Mister Mida wrote...

I can't help but feel that if it is indeed so, it's nothing more than fan service. After all many people were already speculating that the bartender matriarch was Liara's other parent.

Actual fanservice would be letting us bang her on the bar after tearing off her uber-tight commando leathers that she wore special for the occassion.  This is, at worst, just promoting a bit of fanon to canon.  Not quite the same thing.

[Mister Mida]

didymos1120 wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

I can't help but feel that if it is indeed so, it's nothing more than fan service. After all many people were already speculating that the bartender matriarch was Liara's other parent.

Actual fanservice would be letting us bang her on the bar after tearing off her uber-tight commando leathers that she wore special for the occassion.  This is, at worst, just promoting a bit of fanon to canon.  Not quite the same thing.

Fanon or fan service, I'm no fan of either. I believe that Bioware should stick with the original story as much as possible. Just because many people liked Tali doesn't mean making her a squadmate again for example is better than what they originally thought to do with her.

[catabuca]

Mister Mida wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

I can't help but feel that if it is indeed so, it's nothing more than fan service. After all many people were already speculating that the bartender matriarch was Liara's other parent.

Actual fanservice would be letting us bang her on the bar after tearing off her uber-tight commando leathers that she wore special for the occassion.  This is, at worst, just promoting a bit of fanon to canon.  Not quite the same thing.

Fanon or fan service, I'm no fan of either. I believe that Bioware should stick with the original story as much as possible. Just because many people liked Tali doesn't mean making her a squadmate again for example is better than what they originally thought to do with her.

Who's to say there was an original story for who Liara's father was? Maybe BW never intended us to find out. Maybe they never gave it a second thought. Maybe they did intend it to be the bartender in the first place. So many unknowns ... it's a bit of a stretch to exclaim BW put it in purely as fanservice.

And for something that, up until now, has been of no importance to the major plot, does fanservice really matter? I think it's nice when the devs give the fans a little nod - it shows they listen. Of course, it only works if they try to give those little nods to as many fans as possible, so people don't feel left out. When you start gettting major nods that cater for one vocal group, and no nod at all to another vocal group, well, that way leads to grumpy fans.