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[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

siriusrambles wrote...

i was referring to the suggestions about killing ash and kaidan not the misguided thoughts by two individuals. if ash, kaidan or liara die in upcoming dlc, i'm out and will not support it. however, this is my opinion and i understand it may differ from someone else.

I agree... if there is an option for them to die... other than virmire. I'm done.

[ExtremeOne]

Chignon wrote...

I think it is unlikely that Kaidan, Ash or Liara will be killable in any of the upcoming DLCs when Bioware has already stated that they were 'kept safe' in ME2 for a role in ME3.

  


thats total bull sh*t so basically any one from ME 2 is killable but oh we need to protect ME 1. I am sorry that right there makes the story in ME 2 complete and utter garbage then. If Shepard can die in ME 2 then everyone else should be able to die as well. 

[ExtremeOne]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

siriusrambles wrote...

i was referring to the suggestions about killing ash and kaidan not the misguided thoughts by two individuals. if ash, kaidan or liara die in upcoming dlc, i'm out and will not support it. however, this is my opinion and i understand it may differ from someone else.

I agree... if there is an option for them to die... other than virmire. I'm done.
 

   


oh i guess you forgot one of them did die already its just depends on which gender your Shepard is. If Shepard can die they better be able to die as well 

[Chignon]

ExtremeOne wrote...

oh i guess you forgot one of them did die already its just depends on which gender your Shepard is. If Shepard can die they better be able to die as well 

She didn't forget, hence the use of "or".

It does not depend on gender, but on choice. If you would have actually played ME1, you would know. Gender only matters for whatever reason if you start a new Shepard in ME2.

EDIT:

Also I would ask you to stay on topic. If you have nothing new to add than rehashing what you already stated several times, then just leave it be.

Modifié par Chignon, 27 août 2010 - 12:07 .

[Jade5233]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I think it is unlikely that Kaidan, Ash or Liara will be killable in any of the upcoming DLCs when Bioware has already stated that they were 'kept safe' in ME2 for a role in ME3.

  


thats total bull sh*t so basically any one from ME 2 is killable but oh we need to protect ME 1. I am sorry that right there makes the story in ME 2 complete and utter garbage then. If Shepard can die in ME 2 then everyone else should be able to die as well. 

But you are able to prevent any and all of the ME2 characters from dying if you do all of the loyalty missions and upgrades.

In ME1 you don't have that luxury.  You're forced to kill one or the other no matter what you try to do, no matter how you prepare.  Its not really an equal comparison.  Killing off the other before their story is done... 

EDIT:  Heck.  Couldn't BW have at least done a recap at the beginning of ME2 for the new players?  Last time on Mass Effect...cue Virmire choice scene.

Modifié par Jade5233, 27 août 2010 - 12:08 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Shepard can't exactly die anyway... If he/she does... then the game is over and there is no import to ME3. So if you wanna play ME3, technically, Shepard can't die.

[Chignon]

Jade5233 wrote...

EDIT:  Heck.  Couldn't BW have at least done a recap at the beginning of ME2 for the new players?  Last time on Mass Effect...cue Virmire choice scene.

And cue to Cerberus experiments all over the Terminus system just to show who exactly you are working with.

Brodyaha wrote...

How about dialogue suggestions for friendship repairment?

The confrontation on Horizon should also play a role in the friendship path, I think, since the lines are nearly the same whether Shepard romanced Ash/Kaidan or not.

[FireEye]

Brodyaha wrote...

How about dialogue suggestions for friendship repairment?

No, "Hey, how you doin'?" unless there is massive, massive lampshading the likes of which I cannot imagine involved.  <_<

[Gundar3]

Im not sure how Bioware normally responds to petitions. But regardless, Ill add my voice here. Ash was my favorite LI. I found her character to be the most complex and realistic and her personality grew on me. Kaiden was just a straight up good guy and I wouldnt mind seeing more of him either. Heres hoping Bioware makes an Ash/Kaiden dlc!

[ExtremeOne]

Jade5233 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I think it is unlikely that Kaidan, Ash or Liara will be killable in any of the upcoming DLCs when Bioware has already stated that they were 'kept safe' in ME2 for a role in ME3.

  


thats total bull sh*t so basically any one from ME 2 is killable but oh we need to protect ME 1. I am sorry that right there makes the story in ME 2 complete and utter garbage then. If Shepard can die in ME 2 then everyone else should be able to die as well. 

But you are able to prevent any and all of the ME2 characters from dying if you do all of the loyalty missions and upgrades.

In ME1 you don't have that luxury.  You're forced to kill one or the other no matter what you try to do, no matter how you prepare.  Its not really an equal comparison.  Killing off the other before their story is done... 

EDIT:  Heck.  Couldn't BW have at least done a recap at the beginning of ME2 for the new players?  Last time on Mass Effect...cue Virmire choice scene.

  


It is fair because if Bioware says that Shepard can die in ME 2 then it should mean anyone can die. protecting people from ME 1 is utter bull sh*t while characters like Grunt , Legion , Miranda. , Jack , Thane, Kasumi , Garrus and Tali can all die . they are protecting those 3 out of some stupid fan service garbage. which is really sad and basically makes the whole story in ME 2 suck 

[Jade5233]

I don't think you listened to what I said. You can protect everyone from ME2 quite easily. None of them have to die.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I think it is unlikely that Kaidan, Ash or Liara will be killable in any of the upcoming DLCs when Bioware has already stated that they were 'kept safe' in ME2 for a role in ME3.

  


thats total bull sh*t so basically any one from ME 2 is killable but oh we need to protect ME 1. I am sorry that right there makes the story in ME 2 complete and utter garbage then. If Shepard can die in ME 2 then everyone else should be able to die as well. 

But you are able to prevent any and all of the ME2 characters from dying if you do all of the loyalty missions and upgrades.

In ME1 you don't have that luxury.  You're forced to kill one or the other no matter what you try to do, no matter how you prepare.  Its not really an equal comparison.  Killing off the other before their story is done... 

EDIT:  Heck.  Couldn't BW have at least done a recap at the beginning of ME2 for the new players?  Last time on Mass Effect...cue Virmire choice scene.

  


It is fair because if Bioware says that Shepard can die in ME 2 then it should mean anyone can die. protecting people from ME 1 is utter bull sh*t while characters like Grunt , Legion , Miranda. , Jack , Thane, Kasumi , Garrus and Tali can all die . they are protecting those 3 out of some stupid fan service garbage. which is really sad and basically makes the whole story in ME 2 suck 

LOL

don't even start with the "fanservice" crap.... the ME1 LI's haven't gotten much, if any, fanservice. Maybe Liara, but I'm pretty sure they had already planned to do that DLC as soon as they were done with making ME2. (To continue the comic's story and what not).

Garrus and Tali in ME2 are nothing but fanservice. As well as Thane.
They made Garrus and Tali romanceable against their original plans not to just for the fans who whined about not being able to in ME1.

[Chignon]

FireEye wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

How about dialogue suggestions for friendship repairment?

No, "Hey, how you doin'?" unless there is massive, massive lampshading the likes of which I cannot imagine involved.  <_<

Yes, please none of that. And no "It's been too long!" either. It doesn't do the characters that were with you for most of the events in Mass Effect 1 justice.

[CleverCover]

ExtremeOne wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I think it is unlikely that Kaidan, Ash or Liara will be killable in any of the upcoming DLCs when Bioware has already stated that they were 'kept safe' in ME2 for a role in ME3.

  


thats total bull sh*t so basically any one from ME 2 is killable but oh we need to protect ME 1. I am sorry that right there makes the story in ME 2 complete and utter garbage then. If Shepard can die in ME 2 then everyone else should be able to die as well. 

But you are able to prevent any and all of the ME2 characters from dying if you do all of the loyalty missions and upgrades.

In ME1 you don't have that luxury.  You're forced to kill one or the other no matter what you try to do, no matter how you prepare.  Its not really an equal comparison.  Killing off the other before their story is done... 

EDIT:  Heck.  Couldn't BW have at least done a recap at the beginning of ME2 for the new players?  Last time on Mass Effect...cue Virmire choice scene.

  


It is fair because if Bioware says that Shepard can die in ME 2 then it should mean anyone can die. protecting people from ME 1 is utter bull sh*t while characters like Grunt , Legion , Miranda. , Jack , Thane, Kasumi , Garrus and Tali can all die . they are protecting those 3 out of some stupid fan service garbage. which is really sad and basically makes the whole story in ME 2 suck 

Well, the dlc could take place after the whole suicide mission. Then there's no need for anyone else to die and it makes sense story wise.  It doesn't have to take place beforehand. I think it would be great for my Shepard to be able to meet the VS when the suicide mission is over...things need to be said.

[Aggie Punbot]

ExtremeOne wrote...

It is fair because if Bioware says that Shepard can die in ME 2 then it should mean anyone can die. protecting people from ME 1 is utter bull sh*t while characters like Grunt , Legion , Miranda. , Jack , Thane, Kasumi , Garrus and Tali can all die . they are protecting those 3 out of some stupid fan service garbage. which is really sad and basically makes the whole story in ME 2 suck 

I don't think you're understanding what is being said. Yes, Shepard can die. However, if s/he does die and you choose not to make an alternate game where s/he lives, you cannot play Mass Effect 3. In order to play ME3, you need to have a live Shepard, whether it's the one you played with in previous games or a brand new one with pre-made decisions and choices for you. Regardless of your choice, Commander Shepard has to be alive for a player to be able to play Mass Effect 3. So in essence, you can kill off Shepard but you will then have to use an alternate Shepard in ME3 that made choices and decisions that you may not personally agree with.
 
Do you understand?

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

CleverCover wrote...
things need to be said.

oh do they ever!

[Estelindis]

ExtremeOne wrote...
they are protecting those 3 out of some stupid fan service garbage. which is really sad and basically makes the whole story in ME 2 suck 

Um, on the contrary, none of the squad members of ME2 *have* to die.  It's possible to save them all.  It is *not* possible to save all ME1 squad members.  Adding another opportunity to kill off ME1 squad members would be putting them in an even worse position, not somehow equalising things.

Shavon wrote...
No offense, but if this Extreme one dude hasn't played the games, then why is everyone engaging [with him or her]

Just trying to clarify things.  Sorry if it seems like a waste of time or off-topic.

Modifié par Estelindis, 27 août 2010 - 12:54 .

[Aggie Punbot]

I have doubts as to whether Extreme One is a troll or just a really misguided 12-year-old. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Chignon]

Brodyaha wrote...

Dialogue suggestions

I think since BioWare needs to hire Sbarge and Brooks back to do voice work, that there should be little nuances within the dialogue that conveys their different characters.  A couple word changes can reflect their personality (at least, I hope I demonstrate it...)

Surprise meeting during a mission, taking down geth:

Shepard:  Alenko!  What are you doing here?
Kaidan: Taking care of some geth!  Why are you here?
Shepard: investigating some suspicious activity. I'm glad I ran into you, we need to talk.
Kaidan: You help me defeat these guys and I'll give you some time, Shepard.

Shepard:  Williams! 
Ashley: Shepard?  WTH are you doing in this place?
Shepard: I asked Anderson about you, and he didn't stonewall me.  Glad I ran into you, we need to talk.
Ashley: Help me blast out their flashlight heads and I'll hear you out, skipper.

Don't worry, Brodyaha, you demonstrated it just fine. I like your ideas for both of them.

[Funkcase]

Everyone, please ignore and just report ExtremeOne, he's just a troll who hasn't ever played ME1 and sole perpose on these forums is to diss ME1 and it's fans, lets keep this topic on topic, and hopefully the troll will go back under his bridge.

And I apologise for needing to go off topic here to post that. Now, Bioware lets have some Ash and Kaidan dlc!

Modifié par Funkcase, 27 août 2010 - 12:58 .

[CleverCover]

Making my list early.



Dear Santa,



You know what I want for Christmas. VS dlc.



Signed, A Usually Good Girl



Okay, all joking aside, please Bioware? The suggestions made previously would make an awesome bit for those that sat there waiting for Kaidan/Ashley to come back after Horizon the first time playing it. I'd pay MS points for it...depending on how long it was.



Something to make up for how painful Horizon was? Please? With sugar on top?