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[sagefic]

Raanz wrote...

I would support this DLC. Ash is one of my favorite characters as I am sure Kaidan is probably some folks pick as well.

Um, yes. You obviously have not stumbled into that realm of fandom.

I would add to this that I would really like this to be the point at which loyalty to Cerberus OR the Alliance/Council is cemented OR a neutral path is chosen. I do not think that is unreasonable for a DLC. A newbie to the final game come take the middle road.

Here's a thought:

1 - Blew Base + Reinstated as Spectre ---> Cerberus is after you, Alliance wants to see if they can trust you/wants to protect you
2 - Kept Base + Not reinstated as Spectre ---> Alliance is planning to bring you in for treason (you're too much of a political nightmare at this point)
3 - Other Combo ---> Alliance is investigating you

Ashley/Kaidan are sent to "join you" on a mission. As the mission progresses you realize their underlying motives  are 1 2 or 3, depending, and picking up intel on Cerberus to help the Alliance . you can either be mad at them or try to convince them to see things your way. you can also try to tie up problems with Horizon. partial resolution, but not a complete resolution here.

then, at the end, some moment of truth where you can either try to convince Ash/Kaidan once and for all to leave the Alliance and join you and Cerberus (renegading them might have helped?) OR take out a Cerberus cell and hand the info over to help the Alliance, thus causing you to be in good with the Alliance and Ashley/Kaidan to be "on loan" from the Alliance. one ending would have ash/kaidan return to the alliance. Perhaps a VERY renegade person could let Ash/kaidan die at this point. a paragon could get alliance help with the reapers. basically, you could either get ash and kaidan OR push them away and do this in response to how the alliance treated shep.

my rambling thoughts, anyhow

[Ashii6]

I just want to see Ashley again. Before we will play at ME3. Hm... Mission with her or something. And apologize for behavior on the Horizon - Explain her everything etc.



Please BioWare. Do something for VS and their fans.

[Funkcase]

I would realy love something, but I have been disapointed so many times by Bioware since the release of ME2, and I just cant see them doing anything for us. The fans of the ME1 LI's are ''exceptable loses'' ring a bell?

But hell yeah I support the VS dlc! And I do want! I just cant see it happening.

Modifié par Funkcase, 24 août 2010 - 07:36 .

[chem light]

I don't care what their doing as long as I get my bad ass sister in arms or my boy toy back.

[ratzerman]

Badpie wrote...
- I'd like the chance to apologize to Ashley as well for Horizon since Shepard basically just stood there like a big dummy (and on that note I'd like better writing of their dialogue).

- And and like an opportunity for a little friendship/relationship development that hints toward ME3 and how those characters will develop.

Both of these are very important to me. My Shepard didn't romance Ash, but she considered her a trusted friend and ally. I hated the Horizon confrontation. I felt like I was railroaded into being a jerk to Ashley when I didn't want to be. We have to be given a chance at some point to mend fences, and DLC would be a perfect oppurtunity.

I also like the idea of Ash/Kaidan acting as a liason between Shepard and the Alliance. My Shep is still loyal to the Alliance, even though they are no longer loyal to her. Being forced to work for Cerberus severely limited my enjoyment of ME2, and using my friendship with Ash as a way to bring her back into the Alliance's good graces would be much appreciated.

Modifié par ratzerman, 24 août 2010 - 07:40 .

[silverfoxIII]

Has to be done, i personality think the VS LI have the best story, for example you have a better connection with them as you selfishly sent someone to there death just so you could be with them lol.



anyways i would be willing to put down some serious £ for this dlc

[drunken pyromaniac]

God, yes! You have shown that you do listen to your fans with the inclusion of Garrus/Tali as LIs in ME2 and now this Liara DLC. Isn't it time that the Virmire Survivors fans get the same courtesy?

1. I would echo the sentiment many have expressed already that we get some differentiation between Kaidan and Ashley. While I understand that it's cheaper and therefore more desirable to give them a similar role, they are very different characters and deserve at the very least more personalized dialogue if you won't just give them different missions.

2. I would love a chance for my Shepards to continue the relationship they had wth Ash/Kaidan in ME1. Whether it was a friendship or a romance.

Modifié par drunken pyromaniac, 24 août 2010 - 08:09 .

[siriusrambles]

i fully support this idea. i want my best friend/lover back in ash and my best friend/lover back in kaidan. despite his title of "least romanced character", he's definitely the most romanced in my household. contrary to the "nobody likes kaidan" sentiment.



anyway, i would love dlc showcasing the people ash and kaidan have become. the experience they gained while working alongside shepard cultivated a self-reliant soldier. losing shep changed them and they had to step outside his or her shadow. leading ash and kaidan to develop their own leadership abilities and military tactics.



also, they are very much individuals so please no phoenix armor on kaidan and let him use his biotics instead of an assault rifle. treat them with the respect they deserve. they have been in the mass effect fold since the beginning.

[DigitalFallout]

I want them both to be themselves, see something changed but for example: I dont want Ash to lose her sarcastic, fiery, romantic at heart personality, and at the same time we see she has matured a bit in them two years.

I would love the VS in my squad, i'm guessing they cant be permanent due to people who dont buy the dlc who wont understand why they are on the Normandy come ME3, but for atleast some missions in the dlc.

Carry on the romantic sub-plot with them, but like in ME1 let them be friends with Shepard too, in ME1 you could be friends with Ash and Kaidan without romancing them, sadly that was lacking in pretty much every character in ME2.

Not just a few lines of dialogue then a mission and good bye, we need something substantial.

And most of all......I just want them back

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Modifié par DigitalFallout, 24 août 2010 - 07:57 .

[Badpie]

siriusrambles wrote...


also, they are very much individuals so please no phoenix armor on kaidan.

WORD.

[FireEye]

I think my concerns about this have been well covered, but at the fore of my mind:



If there were Kaidan/Ash DLC, I would like to see the two characters differentiated again. Considering they were foils of one another, it's a bit disconcerting to see them meet halfway on everything since Virmire. Making two separate DLC with two separate missions/bonuses/whatever could help this, but only if it did make them two separate characters again.



Having them both stand up strong in their own right is important. No more rescuing, unless they're the ones that are doing it. Have them help Shepard as an equal. Don't make them fall at Shepard's feet in awe of Shepard because its Shepard.



I don't know what else to say, personally, so again I'll point up thread to where the entire point is better said.

[oyukichan]

sagequeen wrote...

 I would very much like to see this. I have bought just about every DLC so far (armors aside - i like the original, thanks) and have loved them to bits. 

With that said, a Virmire Survivor (VS) DLC would make me positively giddy. I would like to see:

• IF Liara joins with Shepard post-suicide mission, I would like Shepard to be able to reconcile with Ashley/Kaidan in some way if Shepard chooses, regardless of it Shepard is a paragon/renegade, blows the base/etc. Those relationships should be salvageable regardless of how shep played things
• Perhaps the above could be accomplished by Shepard showing Alliance hypocrisy to Ash/Kaidan if Shep took a more renegade route; OR by showing loyalty to the Alliance if they took a more paragon route.
• One good reason for the above to be ignored is if this is something that will play out in ME3; still though, i would love to see it
• For those who did not romance Ash/Kai, the above would give a good "in" with the Alliance or a clear break from the alliance, thus giving us interesting story
• Ash/Kaidan content needs to have a friend option/buddy talk for those who were buddies with Ash/Kaidan instead of romantic. 
• Please NO rescuing of Kaidan/Ashley. they have already been "rescued" by Shep 4 times for kaidan, 5 for ashley (Eden prime from geth (Ash only), eden prime beacon, virmire, opening on normandy (Sent away), and horizon)
• Need to have chance to talk over the "betrayal" accusation. seriously
• Some explanation as to the missing "reply" button on the email for those who did an LI import?
• A longer talk for imported LIs.
• A romantic scene for faithful imported LIs (pretty please)
• Possible renegade/paragon interrupts for imported LIs. either a cold breakup or a hastily accepted apology
• I hate to say it, but yes, i think the VS could and should perhaps be sent back to the Alliance coldly by Shep (possibly even left to die on a mission?) if Shep did not choose to accept the apology

I would like to see the VS choose to stand with shep or not (sort of a "moment" of truth) based on how well shep handles his/her mission and convinces the VS to stay on with him or her. But that is the best I can come up with in my head.

What I would mostly like is a good VS DLC, please. Barring that, it would be fantastic to get some word about upcoming VS anything. The silence on the subject is making those of us who are big Kaidan and Ashley fans very nervous.

These people were your squad from the start! I feel these characters deserve better. Thanks.

Agreement with everything she said!

[Comrade Bork]

Please bring back Ash. Please. That is all.

[Lisa_H]

I would very much like a DLC with the Virmire Survivor

[Raanz]

sagequeen wrote...

Raanz wrote...

I would support this DLC. Ash is one of my favorite characters as I am sure Kaidan is probably some folks pick as well.

Um, yes. You obviously have not stumbled into that realm of fandom.

I would add to this that I would really like this to be the point at which loyalty to Cerberus OR the Alliance/Council is cemented OR a neutral path is chosen. I do not think that is unreasonable for a DLC. A newbie to the final game come take the middle road.

Here's a thought:

1 - Blew Base + Reinstated as Spectre ---> Cerberus is after you, Alliance wants to see if they can trust you/wants to protect you
2 - Kept Base + Not reinstated as Spectre ---> Alliance is planning to bring you in for treason (you're too much of a political nightmare at this point)
3 - Other Combo ---> Alliance is investigating you

Ashley/Kaidan are sent to "join you" on a mission. As the mission progresses you realize their underlying motives  are 1 2 or 3, depending, and picking up intel on Cerberus to help the Alliance . you can either be mad at them or try to convince them to see things your way. you can also try to tie up problems with Horizon. partial resolution, but not a complete resolution here.

then, at the end, some moment of truth where you can either try to convince Ash/Kaidan once and for all to leave the Alliance and join you and Cerberus (renegading them might have helped?) OR take out a Cerberus cell and hand the info over to help the Alliance, thus causing you to be in good with the Alliance and Ashley/Kaidan to be "on loan" from the Alliance. one ending would have ash/kaidan return to the alliance. Perhaps a VERY renegade person could let Ash/kaidan die at this point. a paragon could get alliance help with the reapers. basically, you could either get ash and kaidan OR push them away and do this in response to how the alliance treated shep.

my rambling thoughts, anyhow

Good thoughts...exactly what I was eluding to, but you put it more eloquently.

[solvill]

DLC were I can actually continue a relationship? ( not a crappy dialogue or a mail without a reply option ) That would be great

[Guanxii]

Ashley is my male sheps love interest so I would be ecstatic to see her ( or kaidan) in his/her own dlc. Here's my idea:

Cerberus finally goes too far and kidnaps Anderson in retaliation for Retribution; In order to bring back the captain alive Shepard finds himself forced to formally sever his ties with Cerberus if he hasn't already - a major opportunity for exposition bridging me2 and me3 explaining why Shepard left cerberus. In essence the "bridging dlc" that was promised.

Without the resources or contacts of the council or the Illusive man, Shepard finds an ally in an old friend.

Modifié par Guanxii, 24 août 2010 - 09:20 .

[Captain Crash]

Needs to be done, no doubt about it!

But what I like most about this idea is that the mission has the potential to get back on the Alliances good side.   As Kaiden and Ash are still in the Alliance I can see them very easily going on a mission which turns bad.   

Load up the Galaxy map and Admiral Hackett comes on. "Shepard we need your help..."   


That way a bridge is built for ME3 where Shepard can stick with Cerberus or move back with the Alliance in a understandable way.   Or third option of course is stay as a spectre. 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 24 août 2010 - 09:08 .

[oyukichan]

Guanxii wrote...

Ashley is my male sheps love interest so I would be ecstatic to see her ( or kaidan) in his/her own dlc. Here's my idea:

Cerberus finally goes too far and kidnaps Anderson in retaliation for Retribution; In order to bring back the captain alive Shepard finds himself forced to formally sever his ties with Cerberus if he hasn't already - a major opportunity for exposition bridging me2 and me3 explaining why Shepard left cerberus. In essence the "bridging dlc" that was promised.

Without the resources or contacts of the council or the Illusive man, Shepard finds an ally in an old friend.

This could be fun!

[Jade5233]

I think a sex scene would be a bit premature after 2 years of separation, IMO.  Save it for ME3--and make it a good one.  But I would like some good kissy kissy or snuggling like you could have with the ME2 LI's.
I understand that since each VS is only alive for half of the population, that BioWare might not find it financially expedient to make two separate DLC.  Personally, I would be okay if the premise and key plot points for each was somewhat the same for both Kaidan and for Ashley.  But I would like the dialogue to be unique for each--like in ME1 they weren't carbon copies of each other.  Each character was an individual.
I think Kaidan and Ashley would each have different reactions to Shepard, as was stated above--that Ashley was actively trying to cope and move on.  Kaidan was having more difficulty.  I would like those differences to be addressed rather than the two be handed the same dialogue and exact same reactions.