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[sagefic]

FireEye wrote...
I would like this as well. 

Although I wouldn't mind having Anderson along as a third squadmate, either. 

heh. we already know anderson can throw a mean punch.  the ability to knock out a man in one punch flat. just give him a gun and he's good to go.

in all seriousness though, i would be totally happy with just ash/kaidan. not unlike the kasumi DLC, where it's just you and that person in a super-sekrit mission

Modifié par sagequeen, 31 août 2010 - 06:39 .

[Camronnba]

I love me some Ashley. This idea gets my full support. I would love a scene were you bring either Kaiden or Ashley onto the Normandy, let them meet the new crew, hug Garrus and Tali (assuming they survived suicide mission). I like the idea about it being a 2 person mission with just Ash or Kaiden. Lots of great ideas here, keep it up, and thanks to the OP for keeping it organized!

[sagefic]

thanks for cleaning up the OP, bro. i especially like the NO Kaidan in Phoenix armor as its own special bullet point.

[Chignon]

Very good work cleaning up and structurizing the OP, Brodyaha!

And we've already reached twenty pages! That's something, right?

[hawat333]

We will see.

I think there are already plans for clearing these things up, and Liara is just the first one for this task.

I completely and utterly support the idea.

[Marcus Aurelius]

This idea would be very nice

[Lellandra]

I love this idea!



Let's destroy some Cerberus bases together to prove our loyalty!

[MisterDyslexo]

I just thought of a few things some people might consider important for this DLC. First of all, you can go through ME1 without romancing them. But who said it had to start then? There should be a blooming romance, or at least subtle clues (not big and flirty, after all they're a little on edge) towards intimate thoughts the others can pick-up on. That could probably affect how the plot of the DLC would advance and wrap-up, but it could aslo end as if you romanced them in ME1. Secondly, doing that would give a lot of people who want a same-sex romance with the VS what they want. I'm not here to debate same-sex romances, there's a thread for that:

http://social.biowar...index/2883314/1



I'm just saying that this could give a lot of people what they want since the same-sex romance with Ash/Kaiden was cut from ME1. Again, if you don't want a s/s romance between them ,there's the link to the thread, don't post about it on this thread bringing it off-topic

[Schatten]

I really approve this Idea of a Virmire Survivor DLC, because I liked Ashley and Kaidan in ME1, but I felt really disappointed with their roles in Mass Effect 2. I just hope they get some more attention like Liara is getting, because I feel they are worth enough to get some "exclusive content". I agree 100% with this DLC idea.


To contribute to this "wishlist", I decided to point some things/ideas that I think would be acceptable/interesting in this DLC and maybe/even on ME3.:
 

*I don't really care if they both are on the same mission, with the same enemies and the same checkpoints (One mission for both would be easier for Bioware). As long as they get different dialogues, to show more of their personalities, I think that would be fine, but if Bioware make different missions for them, they are welcome, very welcome.

*I don't really want to just receive a message and, on the first mission, see Ashley/Kaidan fighting and just join them for the rest of the DLC. I think there could be a "introduction" without them (To give a "history" touch), a mission to led Shepard to some other place that would the location to their "accidental" meeting. (Example: Ashley/Kaidan were sent by the Alliance to the planet "2" to investigate something, while Shepard would be assisting a facility under attack on the planet "1" so, on the end of the mission, Shepard would receive an information regarding that there might be more answers for that attack on planet "1" in planet "2" and then...you figure.)

*The meeting being marked by Ashley/Kaidan saving Shepard's life and not (once again) the opposite. Ashley should/could use her shotgun and some melee attacks against the enemy that is about to kill Shepard, just to finish him with another shot from her shotgun, while Kaidan should use his biotics to destroy the enemy armor/body and then launch him at the enemies like a bullet.

*For those who want some non-combat moments, I thought, maybe we could do some "Gather X numbers of intel" kind of mission/achievement. I was thinking, maybe something like the "Noveria: Espionage" assignment we got on ME1, but for this, you would need to go to a (new) place on the Citadel to find some "marked" people and hack some additional (but non-vital) information from them. For this, you would need to use Shepard or Ashley/Kaidan to distract the target while the other hack his/her information. For this kind of mission, Shepard and the VS would need to use clothes instead of armor to not draw attention, so, while you would do the mission with a new clothe (that, at the end of the DLC, would be selectable as a casual clothe for Shepard on the Normandy) you would also be able to see the VS using some casual stuff (and maybe showing us Ashley with her hair loose? I hope so ).
 *For Hackett, I was thinking something like: At the end of the mission where you met the VS, he/she would see that his/her transport is in no-go, so he/she would have to go to the Normandy with Shepard. There, he/she would contact Hackett and tell what happened. Maybe the first dialogue between Shepard and Hacket could be like:
 
Hackett: Ashley/Kaidan, I am not receiving your Ship’s signal. Where are you?
Shepard:  Don’t worry, Hackett, he is/she is in good hands.
Hackett: Sh-Shepard!?!?
Shepard: Hackett.
Hackett: B-But… I thought you were…
Shepard: Dead? Yeah…Let’s say it’s really good to be back.
 
(No, seriously, this was just an example. I really don’t know how would be their first dialogue in two years. I guess Bioware could create something way better than this.)
 
And then some dialogue options would appear to know more about the Alliance, Hackett's Life in the past 2 years etc.

Depending if you betrayed Cerberus or not, he could say as his farewell, for example, that is “Really good to have someone that is willing to do the right thing not only for the exclusive good of the Alliance, but for the good of all the species in the galaxy” or “It’s good to know you’re alive. I just hope you realize as soon as possible what ‘those who try to show you that they have good intentions’ really want. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. “
 *For an "Normandy interaction", my idea was to make Shepard and the VS find some kind of encrypted data that would lead them to their final destination on the DLC, but for this you would need to let EDI do the decryption or the Alliance instead (If letting the Alliance do the decryption, then you would receive some "good points" with then, but if you let EDI do it instead, then let us say Shepard would be a little "unpopular" in the Alliance). While on the decryption process, Shepard could use this "free time" to show the new Normandy and it's crew to Ashley/Kaidan.

The Deck 3 (Crew’s Deck, in "the kitchen') would be a good place (Or maybe a new place on the Normandy?. It surely have the necessary space for another room, and a big one) to ask about how was the life of the VS in these two years, talking about the Alliance, his/her career …clarifying everything between the two of them. Also, this place could be used to show him/her that you quit with Cerberus or stayed with them, all of this would be available through paragon or renegade paths, but with the first one fixing things between them and the second one ruining everything.

(Note: I know that there will also be "Ashley/Kaidan haters" buying this DLC, so give those who “hate them” an opportunity to have fun, It’s their history after all and we can be rude with every, At least "nearly all", characters in the squad/game (The good renegade attitude). I think that, if they want, they should have the option to do this, as long as there are no option(s) to kill Ashley/Kaidan (or anything else that could preclude them from ME3), I think it's fine.

To end that part of the DLC, I think the best way would be to bring him/her to the Captain's Cabin and talk about more important things. For those who not romanced, I think there could be another, more deep, talk about Shepard's loyalty to Alliance, wich could result in making him totally pro-Alliance or make the VS think twice about them.

For those who romanced one of them, the typical sentimental scene where we can see more of their personalities. Also, your initial dialogue could be better with then if you stayed loyal to them.( I hope they put some "kissing scene" or something like that if you stayed loyal, because if we need to wait until ME3...well, it will take some time).

For some reason, I think that "The Raven" (by Edgar Allan Poe) could be used in some part of Ashley's dialogue if you romanced her, but with some modifications like, instead of "Lenore!" (on the fifth paragraph) maybe "Shepard!"? Also, for some another reason, I think Shepard could answer some of Ashley's questions with some poetry such as reciting "Love me" (by Walter Rinder), maybe? (Maybe using it just before their romantic scene?) 
*Also, I think that maybe the scenario on the final mission could remember Virmire itself, but much darker and frightening.

*I think that we should use the Hammerhead at some point, since using him would make seem that you are "sneaking behind the enemy's line". Using the Kodiak could be more pratical, but I don't think it makes you feel like "I am on a infiltration mission". Also, using the Hammerhead's speed to, let's say, escape from a place that is about to be destroyed would actually be very interesting, I think. (But, sincerelly, I would love to have the Mako for that kind of mission. I see the Mako as the perfect vehicle to make incursions, destroy enemies and bases or using it In missions like Vermire and Ilos, while I think that the Hammerhead is more like a tank to be used in rescues, hit and run tactics or things that don't involve him in heavy combats or really long missions, I don't know, but this is just what I think.)
 
*The reason I wanted the final mission to be in a base like that used by Saren on ME1 is because:
 
The base would be heavy fortified, so a direct approach would not be advisable, being better to sneak through it. EDI could detect some interesting points that could be sabotaged, distracting the troops and damaging them and the base itself, like generators, fuel warehouses etc. But for this, you would need to choose a team to do this job while you, the VS and someone else would infiltrate the base (For this “choose a team” thing, you would not lose any of your squad mates in this mission, but depending who you choose, the process will be faster or slower. For example: 3 tech experts can do sabotages quickly while 3 soldiers can’t, but 3 tech experts, if detected by the enemy,  will not be good enough in combat. They would have to fight longer while fight-specialized class characters could resolve this quickly. All of this while you fight some waves of enemies coming at you). To show the squad's progress, a Bar would appear and slowly be filled, showing the progress of them. Once the bar is full, the combat will be over or the sabotage will be completed (Combat’s bar could be red while the sabotage one could be blue to differentiate them). You would need to proceed until reach the determined location, through combat or, maybe, using your sabotage squad to distract your enemies so you could pass by them without getting noticed (I don't know how this last one could work, though).

Why a sabotage team? To make a "big epic final explosion" in the end of the mission. That's why.
 
Well, these are some of the ideas I had. I could put some extra things but much of them were already stated.
 
Also, I am making a "fan-made history" for this DLC or something that could be important for the history in Mass Effect 3. I am trying to use the "Dark Energy" topic as the "background history", so, maybe we could get some useful things in ME3, like making something that makes easier to biotics to use their abilities without exausting then in the process, making guns and shields of all kinds more powerful or even create our own "mass accelerator round", perhaps?. I think (At least I hope) it will be ready by the end of this week
 
Thanks for your patience.

[Dem_B]

Most people just want to see different places or different personalities, but no one offers specific ideas.
I suggest serious idea - "Evidence of the existence of Reapers."

How do you think, what should happen that the council will start preparing for war?
Nobody thinks that if this does not happen between ME2 and ME3 then when Reapers will attack, galactic races will be unprepared and will die all of you understand this?

My idea to visit the unexplored corners of the galaxy and find not only irrefutable Evidence of, but and alternative technology.

Reapers Technologies accumulated over millions of years can not be won only by the forces of all races + destroyed part of the Sovereign + Collectors base station.

Evidence of the existence of Reapers. Final DLC the ME2. Includes Kaiden / Ashley.
Want to know more? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4614404 

Modifié par Dem_B, 02 septembre 2010 - 12:09 .

[Chignon]

I wouldn't mind Ashley keeping her "token Phoenix armor" as Brodyaha put it and Kaidan his Hoirzon one - I like that it, actually. But I'd love to see Shepard getting her/his N7 armor back, similiar to the one seen in the introduction of ME2. 

You have some really good ideas, Schatten! Thank you for posting them.

Modifié par Chignon, 01 septembre 2010 - 02:31 .

[Quething]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

Secondly, doing that would give a lot of people who want a same-sex romance with the VS what they want.

Absolutely agreed. And on that note, I'd add a further request for half-hidden s/s continuance dialog, like we got in the main game. I was shocked and delighted to discover that a femShep who romanced Ashley during ME1 (via console/hex editing ME1 and playing it out, or ME2 save editing with Gibbed) actually has legit unique dialog on Horizon that acknowledges that fact. The one and only thing that doesn't work is the paragon line with Joker after the encounter; otherwise ME2 plays out an existing Ash/femShep relationship seamlessly, like it was always part of the game. It made my whole ME2 experience exponentially better to have that kind of continuity.

I mean, I realize that those of us who modded the game to achieve s/s romance are probably a fairly miniscule minority. Just saying, if you've got Meer and Hale in the recording studio anyway....

As for other stuff, I like the talk of new casual outfits, but has anyone mentioned a new weapon yet? Hopefully something more Locust than Firestorm. <_< We could do with a new sniper (suited to Ash, she and Garrus are my ranged support all through ME1). If that leaves Kaiden empty-handed, well, how about a new bonus talent? Something tech, perhaps, since there's speculation LotSB may give us something biotic. A shield-damaging ability that arcs and homes (like Incinerate does for armor) would be neat, or something similar to Flashbang (offering damping and a stun) but single-target instant-cast or something.

Or, hey, no new weapon and they could both give bonus powers; Ash could have an ammo power that re-introduces something like ME1's hammerhead rounds, or some kind of damage spike power to give us marksman/carnage/assassination back, or something like Overkill that would let you fire for X seconds without depleting your heat sinks.

Modifié par Quething, 01 septembre 2010 - 03:26 .

[sagefic]

schattan, all awesome ideas, i think. i especially like the idea of a convo between ash/kaidan and shep in the mess hall. a good place for a dialog that is airing grievances, yet can't go much further than friendly because of the public nature of it. i also like your ideas re: possibilities for hacking, hammerhead, etc.

i would point out that hackett does know shep is alive. he sends you an email at the end of the alchera crash site DLC. i found that off-hand reference totally bizarre, but it is there. i would be nice to talk to him again. i still want to meet him in person.

also think a new weapon/new skill would be lovely.

[Quething]

I actually kind of don't want to see Hackett. I feel like the fact that he's just a voice, that he manages to be such a complete character and such an important part of the story without a single visual cue, is part of why he's so awesome.

Thinking more on potential new abilities: I know there are a lot of us who hate taking Energy Drain with an adept or vanguard or, especially, Reave with an engineer or infiltrator, because tech on a biotic or biotics on a soldier or whatever just feels wrong. A tech ability that damages barriers or a biotic ability that damages shields would be a really nice addition to the suite, so we can cover our class weaknesses without denting our RP.

More impact from your character background would also be really nice, and appropriate since Ash and Kaiden were the two in ME1 who discussed your background the most. A main quest visiting Torfan/Akuze/Elysium seems like too much to ask, that would be a prohibitive amount of work even with only one NPC to deal with (though that would make a good DLC of its own, hint hint :innocent: ). But something smaller, like a universal quest with different dialog depending on your history (like Major Kyle/Haliat and the bomb/Corporal Toombs), or a small variable noncombat sidequest (like Finch/Talitha/Zabaleta), could slot in pretty easily. And the chance to explore Shepard's history and personality a bit in a way that you couldn't in ME2 could be a good incentive to pick up the DLC for folks who never played ME1.

[sbrii]

Bioware, let me give you my money for a Kaiden/Ash DLC. Please?

[Lord Zeuss]

Quething wrote...

I actually kind of don't want to see Hackett. I feel like the fact that he's just a voice, that he manages to be such a complete character and such an important part of the story without a single visual cue, is part of why he's so awesome.

If they showed Hackett, he would have to have Lance Henrikson's face (nothing else will suffice), unfortunately, I've seen a game that tried to do that, and it looked horrible.

[Hadrian Storm]

I would definitely purchase this.

[Schatten]

Quething wrote...


Or, hey, no new weapon and they could both give bonus powers; Ash could have an ammo power that re-introduces something like ME1's hammerhead rounds, or some kind of damage spike power to give us marksman/carnage/assassination back, or something like Overkill that would let you fire for X seconds without depleting your heat sinks.

I just imagined my Shepard using Overkill while shooting with the Mattock . I really like this idea to re-use some abilities from ME1, since they would really come in handy if they are implemented, but they should be very well balanced, specially when using them with snipers.

Chignon wrote...


You have some really good ideas, Schatten! Thank you for posting them.

You're welcome. And thank you for taking some of your time to read those ideas. 

sagequeen wrote...
 
i would point out that hackett does know shep is alive. he sends you an email at the end of the alchera crash site DLC. i found that off-hand reference totally bizarre, but it is there. i would be nice to talk to him again. i still want to meet him in person.

also think a new weapon/new skill would be lovely.

I did not remembered him sending a message to us (guess I have to play the game one more time ), but I still think that even if Hackett know Shepard is alive, he could still be surprised/shocked by talking to him for the first time after 2 years.

I also think it would be nice to meet Hackett in person, but for some reason I think this moment is better suited for Mass Effect 3 than for an DLC. I believe that Hackett has the same “aura” as TIM, because we never saw them in person and we don't know much about them aside for their jobs and other small things they do/did, but both were important in their roles and might be yet more important in ME3. Meeting Hackett and TIM in person would be two very important moments in Mass Effect’s history, so I don’t think we should get one of these moments in a DLC, but in the final game of the trilogy.

I never really thought in new weapons/skills that might come with this DLC (just casual clothes) but I think we should see first if there is any of them in the “Lair of the Shadow Broker”. If Liara’s DLC get a new weapon/skill, then I think the VS DLC should get some “new extra stuff” too. Also, if they add some new weapons, I think it would be better to focus on new sniper rifles and/or submachine guns because they surely need some more attention. (The Incisor was the only DLC sniper we got until now while the Locust was the only DLC submachine gun we got). I would also point the heavy pistols, but since we got the Phalanx some few weeks ago, I don't think it's that necessary to have another one right now (but It would be welcome, anyway ).

Modifié par Schatten, 02 septembre 2010 - 12:13 .

[Lord Zeuss]

Holy hanar and elcor-drawn carriages for quarians, I have another request for this possible DLC! (And no, hanar and elcor-driven carriages for quarians was not it)



Liara's render has been tweaked in her DLC or else my eyes deceive me. Therefore, I feel it is only fair to suggest/request that the look of our Virmire Survivor be updated to some degree as well. Perhaps some added gauntness to Kaidan's face or even a subtle beard, or (and it does pain me a little to say this) a new hairstyle for Ashley. I am rather a bit attached to that scrumptious bun of hers, but I think it would be intriguing to see her with a short ponytail or something of the like.

[Jade5233]

Brodyaha wrote...

I've been drooling over the Lair of the Shadow Broker trailer, and I keep hoping and thinking that there'll be some DLC featuring Ashley and Kaidan soon--and that it looks just as cool in a trailer (and if SB DLC awesome, that any Ash/Kaid DLC is as good or even better).

I replied to both Norman's and biofeed's tweets about LotSB with requests for Kaidan DLC today.  I watched the vid and it looks cool.  I really hope that they do something to the same degree for Kaidan and Ash.  *crossing fingers*

[MisterDyslexo]

Does anybody know if there are any other DLCs confirmed for after LotSB?