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I have a feeling that the DLC would take place after the end of Retribution.

TIM, relaying a genral warning to all cells in contact (including Normandy's Larzarus Cell). That a project that makes use of Reaper tech (Grayson) has escaped and is en route to the Ascension Project a program whose loss would cost the Alliance dearly. Shepard and crew reach the Jon Grissom Academy, only to find it under siege from the Reaper controlled Grayson, after racing through the station and joining up with Anderson and Kahlee Sanders the team subdues the indoctrinated ex-Cerberus agent.

However, on the way back to the Normandy Shepard is aprehended by an N7 team sent by Naval Interal Affairs to handle the threat to Ascension, said task force is led by Ash/Kaidan. After a heated exchange of words, the camera zooms out to show the SR2 surrounded by an Alliance fleet. Shepard is arrested and convicted of consorting with Cerberus and is charged with unleashing a Cerberus weapon on an Alliance installation (Grayson) and is thrown into a maximum security cell at an unknown Alliance prison.

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RETRIBUTION SPOILERS

Interesting idea. But it would be tricky because Grayson is dead by the end of Retribution, and his capture is done by the Alliance without Shepard. And I think they know that it wasn't Shepard's doing.

Besides, Antella wouldn't need any additional reason to arrest Shepard; working for a terrorist group is pretty serious, especially for humanity's first Spectre.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 20 septembre 2010 - 01:12 .


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I agree - the Alliance wouldn't arrest Shep, if only for public relations reasons (after all, then they'd have to explain why - would the Alliance really say "oh didn't we tell you, the greatest hero in human history is working for terrorists").

Besides as Brod points out, Shep has no involvement whatsoever with Graysons defeat.

EDIT: Having said that, an Alliance team trying to abduct Shep to talk to Alliance Admirals would make sense.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Shepard being court marshalled by the Alliance with Ash/Kaidan sent to "escort" him to the hearing



Initially I'd like to see a duty bound Ash remaining tight lipped, but after a series of events joining Shepard

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My only real wish is to actually see Admiral Hacket in this hypothetical DLC. Even in ME1, we never saw him, and he's restricted to emails and shadow broker dossiers in ME2. If they show Hacket, this DLC will have another purpose. It will partially resolve the Kaidan/Ash horizon incident, and it will introduce Hacket and settle Shepard's standing with the Allaince.

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I'd like to see something that just puts you on good terms with them and the alliance... more points so to speak. If you pursued a relationship then of course to also continue/strengthen or end it.

May be the only one, but soldier williams was a perfect compliment to my vanguard shepard's fighting style in ME1.  Can only imagine how a soldier class would benefit me in ME2.

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Major Truth wrote...

I wouldn't mind seeing Shepard being court marshalled by the Alliance with Ash/Kaidan sent to "escort" him to the hearing

Initially I'd like to see a duty bound Ash remaining tight lipped, but after a series of events joining Shepard


At least one of my Shepard's told the alliance that they had no real authority over her.  She told Rear Admiral Mikhailovich to get lost.   But on the whole, I don't want them to try and court marshall Shepard.   I think it would be a no win situation and would remind me too much of Tali's trial.

I eventually want the whole Alliance to join Shepard along with the other major players.  

It would be interesting to have some of the planets taken over by Reaper agents.  Vigil mentioned that the Reapers had sleeper agents, so there are probably more out there just waiting to be called into action.  

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mopotter wrote...


At least one of my Shepard's told the alliance that they had no real authority over her.


Problem here, it can be done in the backroom. Nobody needs to know. This also includes how Shepard isn't really in Citadel space, how not all Shepards are Spectres and such. The Alliance can simply swoop in, take Shepard in and such.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

mopotter wrote...


At least one of my Shepard's told the alliance that they had no real authority over her.


Problem here, it can be done in the backroom. Nobody needs to know. This also includes how Shepard isn't really in Citadel space, how not all Shepards are Spectres and such. The Alliance can simply swoop in, take Shepard in and such.


I can see it happening, just would prefer that it not happen.  I liked this part of DA, but Loghain was not a friend of any warden and it made sense.  

I just don't see it, too many different choices on how you interacted with the Alliance and other government officials.  Shepard could have some powerful allies, including Emily Wong, or Shepard could have stepped on everyone and no one cares.  Unless a reaper sleeper is behind it.  But even that is a bit farfetched for me.  Plus I don't like the idea of  having to fight my way out of the Alliance holding where I may have to kill someone  who is just following orders.

Arresting or kidnapping Shepard - it would just be awkward when we need the Alliance to help out in the final chapter.  And as much as I'd love Kaidan or Ash to run to the rescue, meeting Shepard as he/she is leaving the building, i hope they don't do it.  :)

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CastonFolarus wrote...

My only real wish is to actually see Admiral Hacket in this hypothetical DLC. Even in ME1, we never saw him, and he's restricted to emails and shadow broker dossiers in ME2. If they show Hacket, this DLC will have another purpose. It will partially resolve the Kaidan/Ash horizon incident, and it will introduce Hacket and settle Shepard's standing with the Allaince.


Well, after LotSB I'd like to at least thank him.

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wtf? hooded sweaters? Who the **** wear such **** by choice? i just thought poor people had to cause they needed to occasionally rob some stores.



Srsly shepard is way past being some poor ghettoscum.

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Habelo wrote...

wtf? hooded sweaters? Who the **** wear such **** by choice? i just thought poor people had to cause they needed to occasionally rob some stores.

Srsly shepard is way past being some poor ghettoscum.


People requested it, so it is listed in the OP. If you don't like it and disagree then that's fine, but please stay civil, okay?

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mopotter wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

mopotter wrote...


At least one of my Shepard's told the alliance that they had no real authority over her.


Problem here, it can be done in the backroom. Nobody needs to know. This also includes how Shepard isn't really in Citadel space, how not all Shepards are Spectres and such. The Alliance can simply swoop in, take Shepard in and such.


I can see it happening, just would prefer that it not happen.  I liked this part of DA, but Loghain was not a friend of any warden and it made sense.  

I just don't see it, too many different choices on how you interacted with the Alliance and other government officials.  Shepard could have some powerful allies, including Emily Wong, or Shepard could have stepped on everyone and no one cares.  Unless a reaper sleeper is behind it.  But even that is a bit farfetched for me.  Plus I don't like the idea of  having to fight my way out of the Alliance holding where I may have to kill someone  who is just following orders.

Arresting or kidnapping Shepard - it would just be awkward when we need the Alliance to help out in the final chapter.  And as much as I'd love Kaidan or Ash to run to the rescue, meeting Shepard as he/she is leaving the building, i hope they don't do it.  :)


I liked it in DA it was one of my favourite quest/misson as it gave you so many ways to solve it.

Perhaps it would be better if you have Shep captured and has to be sprung to force non combat options or make combat undesrible (thinking that captured was the most fun when you didn't kill everything on the map) on the player. Such as have someone spring you from the inside at the cost of Alliance trust in you (including Ash and Kadian) while if you argue in the court marshall and explain what you been doing (perhaps have an option to give the Alliance some Cerbaus info) or argue your way out would create a sense of trust. This time would be good find out what VS had been doing in the 2 years you were dead and what they are doing now. It could then move into a mission perhaps over a few planets to convince Alliance and Citadel Council[/b] of the threat. Lets say for example Ilos to find a away to reactivate Vilgil. Somewere in the Local Cluster to investigate possible indoctrinated cults(a galatic shipyard is always somewere I like to vist). Plus a vist to Citadel to explain all you've found All this would be done with VS perhaps doing what they did in LOTSB of parking them somewere off ship for the next game an alliance eqiverlent of C-SEC in the citadel.

In regards to rewards I haven't a clue but I would like a an auto or 3 round burst heavy pistol (I know I should just chose a class with SMG but a small hard to control auto heavy pistol would be great if a bit uneeded)

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Habelo wrote...

wtf? hooded sweaters? Who the **** wear such **** by choice? i just thought poor people had to cause they needed to occasionally rob some stores.

Srsly shepard is way past being some poor ghettoscum.


If you have any casual clothing ideas that you want to contribute, feel free.  Somebody suggested the N7 hoodie and others agreed.  Therefore, it was added  This is a wishlist for a reason.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 21 septembre 2010 - 03:40 .


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My opinion is... let Bioware think of the story. I could probably wish for a billion different things in the DLC and, if I got it, I would be disappointed, because there would be no surprise, no inspiration to it.



I think the DLC idea itself is sound. I kind of suspect they're planning on doing something like this anyway.

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Since you will either get one or the other, it seems to me that the most practical solution would be to have them both provide the same loyalty power.  I would make it a tech power, bringing back proximity mines, and I would design Ashley more as an Infiltrator for ME2, and equip her with a sniper rifle and a shotgun.  Her story seems to be more of a specialist since Shepard's "death," so that class seems appropriate.

Ashley's abilities would be:
  • Incinerate
  • Disruptor Ammo
  • Alliance Agent
  • Proximity Mine
I liked using proximity mines in ME1, and I think this would be a nice way to re-introduce them in the current system.

Kaidan  would equip the SMG and heavy pistol, and could get:
  • Throw
  • Overload
  • Alliance Officer
  • Proximity Mine
After the DLC is completed, Kaidan/Ashley should be stationed on the Citadel and have some Alliance assets at his or her disposal along with a few Alliance military personell.

The mission itself should not come through Cerberus.  Anderson should send Shepard an email that only says that he needs to talk to Shepard.  The first step of the mission should come from Anderson.

Anyway, those are my ideas.

Modifié par durasteel, 21 septembre 2010 - 05:43 .


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Chignon wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

My only real wish is to actually see Admiral Hacket in this hypothetical DLC. Even in ME1, we never saw him, and he's restricted to emails and shadow broker dossiers in ME2. If they show Hacket, this DLC will have another purpose. It will partially resolve the Kaidan/Ash horizon incident, and it will introduce Hacket and settle Shepard's standing with the Allaince.


Well, after LotSB I'd like to at least thank him.


"Request denied."

-Admiral Hackett :wub:

Bishop must return to the series at some point.

Also why has Ashley in a tank top not been moved to the front page?

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Alocormin wrote...

My opinion is... let Bioware think of the story. I could probably wish for a billion different things in the DLC and, if I got it, I would be disappointed, because there would be no surprise, no inspiration to it.

I think the DLC idea itself is sound. I kind of suspect they're planning on doing something like this anyway.


Pretty much this, I just hope they stay true to there characters (from ME1, not like there ME2 cameos) And I hope they actually import the character development we did with them in ME1 into the dlc (That will probobably wait until ME3 though) If not, dont make Ash dislike aliens. And ofcourse a great storyline, but as we can see from this thread (and several other dlc threads talking about the VS) there are plenty of stuff Bioware can do with Ash and Kaidan, being the last ties with the Alliance gives them plenty of potential for a great story.

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Well, regardless of whether Shepherd does know what Kai Leng did or not, because I know, I'm going to hit Renegade options with him every time.
And I expect sooner or later, the truth will come out.

I'd prefer the DLC to start with Shepherd coming to meet the VS on one of their missions, probably because the newly acquired Shadow Broker network has tipped them off to an ambush of the VS and Shepherd is coming to make a grand gesture of friendship. I.E: "Just because you don't trust me and my allies doesn't mean I feel the same way".

I'm still hoping it becomes a recruitment mission, even though that is incredibly unlikely.

Again, I don't know Kaiden, so for me, this is all about Ashley.

Assumed Build:

Weapons: Assault Rifle (mandatory Soldier weapon) and Shotgun or Sniper Rifle (I can't work out which, since ME1 says she uses both, shotgun would be more likely, there are enough Snipers already in ME2).

Skills:
Incendiary Ammo.
Concussive Shot.
Alliance Soldier. Evolve to Alliance Sharpshooter (weapons damage) or Alliance Trooper (Health).
Loyalty Power - Combat Shielding. Increases damage resistance and restores shields. Evolve to Heavy Combat Shielding or Improved Combat Shielding.

As a bonus weapon, I'd like a large size Assault Rifle with accurate fire that can be given to any Squadmate (although it's going to Grunt only). Sortof like an improved Revenant.

Ashley gets the Collector AR.


I don't intend to discuss Aria or Liselle too much, but here's my two cents.
Aria's on the knife edge of being bad or good, as long as she deals honestly with me (which she has so far), I'm going to accept her.
As for Liselle, I don't believe she was ever a bad person. She convinced Aria not to kill Grayson and demonstrated other aspects that indicate she wasn't evil.

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ODST 3 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Well, after LotSB I'd like to at least thank him.


"Request denied."

-Admiral Hackett :wub:

Bishop must return to the series at some point.

Also why has Ashley in a tank top not been moved to the front page?


Now I knew why I did all his assignments in ME1. Posted Image

You sure you don't rather want the tin foil skirt? Seriously though, you could ask Brodyaha about the tank top as casual wear for Ash.

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As I've said before, I can't put every idea on the list, as great as they are. Heck, I'm thinking about cutting/summarizing some of the ideas and leaving them more general because the list is getting longer and longer and more specific, and I don't want BioWare to be either insulted or think that fans are demanding too much.

Regarding why Ash in a tank top hasn't appeared in the list:

I haven't seen several posts by different people requesting specifically Ash in a tank top. This thread is to explore new ideas, but they might not necessarily get added. that is what the discussion is for. That being said, I do a re-read of 10 pages every 10 pages to add new ideas in case I missed something, so I'll re-read to see if there is agreement. But putting every single new ideas on the thread would make a very long list.

Generally, I try to add ideas that have consensus from at least several people, or ideas that there won't be a huge dispute over. As the list gets longer and there's more clashing of ideas, I'm trying to balance how many people are for an idea vs. how many people are against.

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durasteel wrote...

The mission itself should not come through Cerberus.  Anderson should send Shepard an email that only says that he needs to talk to Shepard.  The first step of the mission should come from Anderson.


I like your ideas. Though, I'd love to see Kaidan with Neural Shock again, but that's just me.

I agree that Cerberus shouldn't be the one to give you intel this time. I think it should be a 'real' bridging DLC and only be possible to play after the Suicide Mission. 

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I would love, love, LOVE a Kaidan/Ashely DLC. I would also be 100% willing to throw down some cash to get it.



There are so many good ideas here!



I definitely want to be allied with the Alliance again. Some way, some how. I would also love to be done with Cerberus. I loathe Cerberus.



Some relationship resolution/progression would be great too. Be it Kaidan or Ashley, a lot of stuff has gone down. I think there should be some conversations about that. Seriously. Oh and definitely different reactions for the two of them. They aren't the same person, at all.



They did a nice job with Liara and LotSB. It gives me hope that there will be something similar for Kaidan and Ashley.

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 Would definitely like to see Ash & Kaiden get some quality DLC time, espeically if it as well done as LotSB (which was almost perfect, IMO--particularly in regards to offering some semblance of emotional resolution w/Liara).
If this were to happen, one thing I would like to see the developers take into account is the full complexity of Shepard's possible relationship with the Virmire Survivor.  To me, it's a little more complicated than romance/non-romance.  In ME1, one of three things happened between Shep & the VS. 

1) Shep & VS started and consummated a romance
2)Shep & VS started a romance, but during the "confrontation scene" Shep picked Liara, leaving VS hurt & confused
3) Shep & VS never went down the romance path, and were friends throughout the mission.

To me, any emotional/relationship fallout (and subsequent rebuilding) should account for the different perspectives of the VS based upon which of the three scenarios occurred during ME.  To me, an Ashley who Shepard basically strung along and then dumped for Liara should react differently to Shepard from an Ahsley who Shep romanced, from an Ashley who Shepard never romanced at all.  Yet another variable I think could be taken into account is whether Sheps who picked Liara over the VS are still with Liara, or started a new relationship in ME2 (the thought being it might add insult to injury on the part of the VS if Shep isn't still involved with Liara, who is after all the person they basically got jilted for).   And of course there is the huge issue of whether or not Shep "cheated" on a VS in ME2.

I guess the bottom line is I'd love to see the writers try to add as much emotional depth and complexity to all of the relationships as possible, in an effort to increase the realism.  It's more complicated than whether or not they got together in ME.

And finally, just want to say I'm in complete agreement that if BioWare does an Ash/Kaiden DLC, it is imperative that they write the characters to be true to themselves.  They are not the same person, and shouldn't react to things the same way.  

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Can the Alliance even Touch a Spectre seen they Answer only to the Council?

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Revised the OP to make the list shorter. Tried to keep it general, deleted redundant things, and tried to limit points to 5 or under for each request topic, although the General Mission Details Request has 7 that are all worth mentioning.

EDIT: In case people are wondering, I didn't delete ideas such as Kaidan in Black Armor, new armor for Ash, and the N7 hoodie because I thought they were bad.  I figured that making the lists general would be for the better.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 21 septembre 2010 - 05:51 .