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[Chignon]

Great work with the OP, Brodyaha!

[PsyrenY]

I just had a chilling thought.

Let's suppose this DLC were to include a trip to Virmire, to recover the dog tags of the VC (Virmire Casualty) or some other reason. Only you get there, and can find no remains, no trace of a body.

Well, you think, it was a pretty big nuke, not likely we'll find anything. Cue flashbacks, reminiscing etc. with the VS.

Then in ME3, who should show up at the head of the Reaper fleet, implanted, indoctrinated, heavily burned/repaired and blazing for revenge...




Not only would this include the "bridge between ME2 and ME3" angle that Bioware has been wanting, it'll give us an actual faced villain to care about in ME3.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 21 septembre 2010 - 06:21 .

[Aggie Punbot]

Errr, forgive me if I'm wrong but doesn't being right next to a detonating nuclear weapon instantly vaporize you? That would mean no dog tag and no body to be recovered or indoctrinated.

[Raanz]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I just had a chilling thought.

Let's suppose this DLC were to include a trip to Virmire, to recover the dog tags of the VC (Virmire Casualty) or some other reason. Only you get there, and can find no remains, no trace of a body.

Well, you think, it was a pretty big nuke, not likely we'll find anything. Cue flashbacks, reminiscing etc. with the VS.

Then in ME3, who should show up at the head of the Reaper fleet, implanted, indoctrinated, heavily burned/repaired and blazing for revenge...




Not only would this include the "bridge between ME2 and ME3" angle that Bioware has been wanting, it'll give us an actual faced villain to care about in ME3.

Nice.  Kudos.

[Mox Ruuga]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I just had a chilling thought.

Let's suppose this DLC were to include a trip to Virmire, to recover the dog tags of the VC (Virmire Casualty) or some other reason. Only you get there, and can find no remains, no trace of a body.

Well, you think, it was a pretty big nuke, not likely we'll find anything. Cue flashbacks, reminiscing etc. with the VS.

Then in ME3, who should show up at the head of the Reaper fleet, implanted, indoctrinated, heavily burned/repaired and blazing for revenge...




Not only would this include the "bridge between ME2 and ME3" angle that Bioware has been wanting, it'll give us an actual faced villain to care about in ME3.

I'm sorry, but this would be Mass Effect jumping the shark. Indy surviving a nuke detonation in that fridge would be nothing compared. Bioware already messed with the plausibility of the setting in ME2, but cheese like this would be a fatal blow against all credibility.

[PaladinUSA]

Just wanted to throw my support in on this. Bioware did a wonderful job with LotSB, especially by including so much character development and post-mission interaction. I would gladly pay for another DLC for the VS.



I didn't see these in the original list:



- Interaction with other squad mates, especially ME1 characters. I want the VS to interact with Garrus, Tali, etc. There were some small nods to this in LotSB, but I would have liked more. A reunion with the VS should not just be between Shep and the VS, but should also reference other characters.

- Reference the past. Again, there was some of this in LotSB, but the more we have the better as it helps ground the content in the larger story. Talk about Shep's past and past interactions with the VS. Talk about Virmire and the VC.



For a possible resurrection scenario at some point...I'm generally against it, but if handled correctly it could be good. I would prefer to leave the VC dead to maintain that emotional impact.

[Chignon]

You know what I'd love to see? It's a bit more targeted towards the people who romanced Kaidan or Ashley:

If Shepard chose to stay faithful to Kaidan or Ash, I'd want them to notice the holo on Shepard's desk in her/his cabin on the Normandy.
They don't need to talk about it at length or mention it (even though that'd be nice), but we could see them glance at it. Just for them to realize that they are on the same ground and Shepard maybe hasn't moved on as much as nearly every conversation option on Horizon and later with TIM, Kelly or Joker seemed to imply.

[manda65]

Chignon wrote...

You know what I'd love to see? It's a bit more targeted towards the people who romanced Kaidan or Ashley:

If Shepard chose to stay faithful to Kaidan or Ash, I'd want them to notice the holo on Shepard's desk in her/his cabin on the Normandy.
They don't need to talk about it at length or mention it (even though that'd be nice), but we could see them glance at it. Just for them to realize that they are on the same ground and Shepard maybe hasn't moved on as much as nearly every conversation option on Horizon and later with TIM, Kelly or Joker seemed to imply.

I love this idea. 

[Funkcase]

Chignon wrote...

You know what I'd love to see? It's a bit more targeted towards the people who romanced Kaidan or Ashley:

If Shepard chose to stay faithful to Kaidan or Ash, I'd want them to notice the holo on Shepard's desk in her/his cabin on the Normandy.
They don't need to talk about it at length or mention it (even though that'd be nice), but we could see them glance at it. Just for them to realize that they are on the same ground and Shepard maybe hasn't moved on as much as nearly every conversation option on Horizon and later with TIM, Kelly or Joker seemed to imply.

Yes this! A bit dissapointing Liara didn't notice it, when she asked about what Shepard is fighting for, it would have been great if she noticed the picture after Shepard answers her.

[Chignon]

Brodyaha wrote...

Chignon wrote...

You know what I'd love to see? It's a bit more targeted towards the people who romanced Kaidan or Ashley:

If Shepard chose to stay faithful to Kaidan or Ash, I'd want them to notice the holo on Shepard's desk in her/his cabin on the Normandy.
They don't need to talk about it at length or mention it (even though that'd be nice), but we could see them glance at it. Just for them to realize that they are on the same ground and Shepard maybe hasn't moved on as much as nearly every conversation option on Horizon and later with TIM, Kelly or Joker seemed to imply.

YES!  A thousand times, yes!  I would love to see this!  I was thinking about it today! I hate how everybody implies that I've moved on.  Gwar.
Now I've got to go write school papers.  Thank you for bringing it up Chignon!

Great minds think alike.

I'm glad people like this idea. I think a quick glance at it and a soft "Shepard ..." would already be enough, but it'd really add some emotional depth to Shepard and Kaidan/Ashley.

[Meshakhad2]

Do want:
- If there's an option to renew ties with the Alliance, there should be one to preserve ties with Cerberus. Not that I would take it, but a lot of people would.
- If Cerberus has a significant role to play in the plot, the Illusive Man should appear.
- A tie to Lair of the Shadow Broker. This could be as simple as giving Ashley or Kaidan a dossier.

Do not want:
- Shepard fighting Alliance soldiers. Rogue/indoctrinated ones don't count.

[Chignon]

Meshakhad2 wrote...

Do want:
- If there's an option to renew ties with the Alliance, there should be one to preserve ties with Cerberus. Not that I would take it, but a lot of people would.
- If Cerberus has a significant role to play in the plot, the Illusive Man should appear.
- A tie to Lair of the Shadow Broker. This could be as simple as giving Ashley or Kaidan a dossier.

Do not want:
- Shepard fighting Alliance soldiers. Rogue/indoctrinated ones don't count.

I like this idea. It'd be great if the DLCs had a bit more of a connection to each other. Not to mention that I'd love, love, love to read Kaidan and Ash's dossiers.

[durasteel]

Optimystic_X wrote...
Let's suppose this DLC were to include a trip to Virmire, to recover the dog tags of the VC (Virmire Casualty) or some other reason. Only you get there, and can find no remains, no trace of a body.

Well, you think, it was a pretty big nuke, not likely we'll find anything. Cue flashbacks, reminiscing etc. with the VS.

Then in ME3, who should show up at the head of the Reaper fleet, implanted, indoctrinated, heavily burned/repaired and blazing for revenge...

Not only would this include the "bridge between ME2 and ME3" angle that Bioware has been wanting, it'll give us an actual faced villain to care about in ME3.

Captain Sheridan's wife Anna in Babylon 5.  Interesting idea.

[Eurhetemec]

Optimystic_X wrote...

I just had a chilling thought.

Let's suppose this DLC were to include a trip to Virmire, to recover the dog tags of the VC (Virmire Casualty) or some other reason. Only you get there, and can find no remains, no trace of a body.

Well, you think, it was a pretty big nuke, not likely we'll find anything. Cue flashbacks, reminiscing etc. with the VS.

Then in ME3, who should show up at the head of the Reaper fleet, implanted, indoctrinated, heavily burned/repaired and blazing for revenge...

Not only would this include the "bridge between ME2 and ME3" angle that Bioware has been wanting, it'll give us an actual faced villain to care about in ME3.

That's a cute idea, but there's no reasonable way that they can explain a situation where both the nuke went off, and the character survived. Either they were ground-zero when it went off, defending it, in which case they're atoms, or they were overwhelmed, in which case the nuke would have been disarmed. In the latter case this scenario would be plausble, but that's not what happened.

So, I like it, but unless there's something I'm missing, there's no way it's possible without "nuked the fridge"-type idiocy, which I don't think Bioware will go for. If they were going to do this, I think they'd have foreshadowed it, too.

[Chignon]

They already had this type of idiocy with Thanoptis surviving Virmire. Yes, I do realize she's more of a running gag, but still it just didn't sit quite right with me that she survived and one of my crew died. Which is why I personally don't want to see the one who died on Virmire alive and indoctrinated. It was hard enough to send one of them to their death once, I really don't want to be railroaded into killing them again.

[Jade5233]

Chignon wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Chignon wrote...

You know what I'd love to see? It's a bit more targeted towards the people who romanced Kaidan or Ashley:

If Shepard chose to stay faithful to Kaidan or Ash, I'd want them to notice the holo on Shepard's desk in her/his cabin on the Normandy.
They don't need to talk about it at length or mention it (even though that'd be nice), but we could see them glance at it. Just for them to realize that they are on the same ground and Shepard maybe hasn't moved on as much as nearly every conversation option on Horizon and later with TIM, Kelly or Joker seemed to imply.

YES!  A thousand times, yes!  I would love to see this!  I was thinking about it today! I hate how everybody implies that I've moved on.  Gwar.
Now I've got to go write school papers.  Thank you for bringing it up Chignon!

Great minds think alike.

I'm glad people like this idea. I think a quick glance at it and a soft "Shepard ..." would already be enough, but it'd really add some emotional depth to Shepard and Kaidan/Ashley.

I really like that idea.
There was a fanfic where Kaidan noticed the photo, looked at it and then noticed all of the fingerprints around his face in the photo.  So he knew how often she must have thought of him and touched that photo. 

[IrishSpectre257]

I support this idea entirely. ME2 DLC needs to get all our ME1 allies in position so they're ready to help Shepard in ME3.

[Tigers8771]

i think it would be cool if they became a spectre at the end of the dlc or something

[Jade5233]

Kaidan would be a very different type of Spectre than Shepard, I think. She's on the surface and quite visible. Kaidan would likely be more behind-the-scenes and stealthy. With his biotics, he wouldn't even necessarily have to carry a weapon on a covert op. Kaidan himself is a weapon!

[crimzontearz]

for the love of GOD allow us to have an advanced training station where to change our advanced weapon training selecion!



Bioware was on the right track with the advanced training for squadmates in the LOTSB dlc....

[Tilarta]

That sounds like an interesting idea.

I'm not sure it would help me though, as I'm too fond of my Widow Anti-Material Rifle to give it up.
Also, the Revenant and Claymore don't really appeal to me as weapons.

If I could do Advanced Plus Training, giving me the ability to use Sub Machine Guns in addition to my current arsenal, that I'd like to see.

How would that be handled in terms of Weapon Assignments though?
If you chose to retrain the weapon skill in question, wouldn't it take away that weapon from you in exchange for the new one?

And yes, I loved that advanced training option for Squadmates in LotSB.
I used the opportunity to "refine" their training to give them different skills (mostly getting rid of shared skills, like only Garrus using Overload and only Miranda using Warp).

Modifié par Tilarta, 23 septembre 2010 - 04:01 .

[sagefic]

I would have to agree that I do not want the person who died on Virmire to come back. They died - it was a horrible moment of decision and I want it to have fully emotional weight. Having time to talk about it/think it over with the survivor, sure.



And re: the picture on the desk - omg, i would love that. seeing as how that stupid picture made me sad every time I stopped in to feed the fish, I would love to have that play some role.