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Saibh wrote...

dewayne31 wrote...

i don't know if it been said before but allow same sex romance to happen we know it was done for me1.


It was also planned for ME2, as well. Kaidan and Ashley got complete voice overs for a male/female option, but still some partial lines exist for some characters (I  remember Tali and Miranda being some) as same-sex romance.

However. This subject is controversial and will derail thread, so I don't want to say more.


i agree i almost didn't but do know a few fans who were disappointed. that why i said it. but back on subject. i wouldn't be against saving them again. but i would like a option to say something to the affect. your making a habit of having me save your ***

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Saibh wrote...

You know, this raises my expectations of actually getting this DLC way higher.

Michael Gamble said...

It also marks the real beginning where we expand the ME2 story in preparation for ME3.


Unless they're talking about comics or books, but I believe more DLC would be in the works. I also believe that this is a sure hint that we will have post-campaign exclusive DLC.


Hopefully they expand more than the weapons locker. 

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You know every once in awhile I have a dream that I'm playing an Alliance DLC with Kaidan in it. Then I wake up, realize it wasn't real, and it just starts my day off badly. I really hope Bioware announces something one way or the other soon. The constant speculation is killing me.

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Honestly, I see the Ash/Kaidan DLC being all but inevitable. They won't leave us as the sole fanbase from ME1 that remains screwed over until ME3. Tali/Garrus got a second game; Wrex got an awesome cameo and Liara got a comic, bad as it is, and a fantastic DLC pack. We'll get ours. *firm nod*

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i wonder if they'll put kaidan/ash in with a big expansion

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Honestly, I see the Ash/Kaidan DLC being all but inevitable. They won't leave us as the sole fanbase from ME1 that remains screwed over until ME3. Tali/Garrus got a second game; Wrex got an awesome cameo and Liara got a comic, bad as it is, and a fantastic DLC pack. We'll get ours. *firm nod*


If we do get an Ash/Kaiden DLC, people are going to demand a Wrex one next.  His cameo may have been better than Ashley/Kaiden's, but it's still nothing compared to the mission role the DLC gives.

And, frankly, a Krogan DLC would be awesome to see if it was done properly.  Because if Wrex lived, you're trying your best to help Clan Urdnot unify Tuchanka.  But if Wreav is in charge, the leadership change would drastically change the situation, and would have to make the mission play out differently (and I can't say how, as I haven't actually ever seen Wreav myself).


But, yeah, I see a DLC featuring the Ashley and Kaiden as being extremely likely.  Liara was too well done to leave the other love interests from ME1 out.

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I would be very Suprised if the next DLC is'nt Ashley/Kadian DLC, also to have Shepard to deal with the Alliance again.

thing i wanna know tho, will this be the Last of the Pre-SM DLC?

I remember Casey Hudson saying in an interview that they will start bridging the Story between ME2 and ME3 with Pre-SM DLC and then move to Post-SM DLCs.

also wonder just how many they got planned.

Dragon's age DLC Did'nt last long as was said, but then again DA:O got an Expansion and DA2 is coming early Next year.

And a Wrexx/weav DLC is just as poss as ashley/kadain, cept ppl that killed Wrexx u get his brother who is rather boring, but price u pay for killing an unreal char. :P

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Saibh wrote...

You know, this raises my expectations of actually getting this DLC way higher.

Michael Gamble said...

It also marks the real beginning where we expand the ME2 story in preparation for ME3.


Unless they're talking about comics or books, but I believe more DLC would be in the works. I also believe that this is a sure hint that we will have post-campaign exclusive DLC.


Here It wasn't Hudson, but it was another BW dev to stated that LotSB was the "true beginning," of the post-SM DLC.

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when should we hear about new DLC? What's the pattern so far? Every month?

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^ I think it is pretty much every month. That seems to be the pattern since Kasumi was released, I think. And I counted out all the announcements. About 1 each week. Even if there's not a DLC released every month, there is usually a DLC announcement every month. But I reckon with LotSB pretty much fresh off the delivery belt, the next bridging DLC won't be out for a while. I assume we'll get armor and weapons packs first. Not only that, but LotSB was announced about 2 months prior to release, so I think the VS DLC would follow the same pattern.  I would hope for a December release date, but I doubt that is likely.  Perhaps more like March, and that's being optimistic, and assuming the next bridging DLC is Kaidan and Ashley related.

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Modifié par Brodyaha, 02 octobre 2010 - 05:03 .


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yoshibb wrote...

You know every once in awhile I have a dream that I'm playing an Alliance DLC with Kaidan in it. Then I wake up, realize it wasn't real, and it just starts my day off badly. I really hope Bioware announces something one way or the other soon. The constant speculation is killing me.


Same here. But I guess all we can do is wait and support this thread and the group. Posted Image

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I would like to see at least a little more progression than what happened on Horizon, but perhaps not fully conclude all of it in a DLC, I'd rather save the tasty parts for ME3. I also liked the idea about Kaiden/Ashley perhaps saving YOUR butt for a change. Don't know if most of you played Dragon Age but if it went something like the Denerim prison break (at least two current squadmates + Ashley/Kaiden) That would be awesome...that moment was just too hilarious!

Since I generally saved Ashley, we must also have more of that silly poetry. Perhaps you go out for dinner (hooray for the tin foil skirt!) and talk at more length about everything that transpired between the time you died (mostly Ash's input there) to when you were recombobulated and compelled to work with Cerberus. And of course, the chance to apologize for dying and soon after working for the people who ressurrected you. There must also be kissy faces and the demolition of Shep's quarters....oh yes.

Im sure i mentioned like others  it earlier in the thread or one simlar but a Denarium style break out would be exellent I thought they were going to do that with the Jack recrutment mission.
What I like was in the denrium prision mission was the two options of having your frends help you or doing it alone with Ash or Kadian. A prison would be a good time to catch up as at least intially you can't do much and explain yourself fully, a chance for some humor as well if you working on the Dragon age quest as the template.
an Excuse to dress as a merc (or alliance) perhaps:). What about a femshep tinfoil skirt :) a dinner with Kadian perhaps. An idea for Kadian if with ashley and her poetry would be the impact of K L2 bioicts perhaps referencing the N7 quest with extremists

Modifié par harryriedl, 02 octobre 2010 - 08:34 .


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I could so see a Denerim-style rescue with Anderson and Ashley or Kaidan! :D

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Add another supporter to the list. :)

I love the idea and most of the ideas presented for it. This would be my dream DLC! The chance to reunite with Kaidan(or Ash) would thoroughly leave me satisfied until ME3 comes out.

All I ask for is that we have the same fulfillment as Liara fans had in LotSB, no matter if we had a romance with VS or not. Romance-wise, I want to have the opportunity to just reconfirm the relationship, such as how one of my Sheps was able to do with Liara. I'd be happy with just that and leave the juicy bits for ME3. I have a feeling with this DLC has the potential to address where the Alliance stands with the Reaper threat. I'm getting a 'Unite the whole galaxy to defeat the Reapers'-vibe for ME3. If so, the Alliance(and Council) have been kinda shady with what their place in that equation is. All we know is that the Council is still dismissive and the Alliance is laying low. I think persuading the Council should be left as a plot device for ME3, but the Alliance should be addressed, especially now that we've seen some interesting bits from the Shadow Broker's dossiers and videos. I'm also for Fort Drakon-esque rescue. :) Opportunity to show how badass they've gotten in the past two years.

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I'm sorry but I'm hearing all this talk about the VS Dlc. is it actually confirmed?



And if so, does anyone have an article about it? just curious.

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BioWare is keeping its pretty lips shut on the issue.

If they are, then we haven't heard anything from them.

If they're not, then we're hoping they do create it.

And I've searched for articles...and found none. :(

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So it's all speculation, more or less.

Ok, cool. that's all I wanted to know.

Hope they do make a VS dlc though they might save it for ME3..

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We don't know how much bridging DLC there will be. And since there's at least another year until ME3, then I think epic DLC every 4-5 months is a pretty good schedule. Which means that I think the earliest release for possible VS DLC is January or February.

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You know, this would probably be difficult to implement, but I would love to see more Dossiers and videos added to the Shadow Broker lair if this DLC is downloaded. If you don't have LotSB, then you just never see them, but if you do, extra goodies for you!

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Saibh wrote...

You know, this would probably be difficult to implement, but I would love to see more Dossiers and videos added to the Shadow Broker lair if this DLC is downloaded. If you don't have LotSB, then you just never see them, but if you do, extra goodies for you!


Not that difficult, necessarily. After all, Overlord makes use of the Hammerhead which came with a different DLC.

But, yeah, great idea!

At least dossiers and surveillance video for Kaidan and Ash, and for the other NPCs tied into the hypothetical DLC.

And as more "bridging" DLC is added, they can continue with the trend and add more material to the Shadow Broker archives.

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Blast from the past, back on the old boards, when the writers hadn't abandoned the forums quite yet...

Patrick Weekes gave his opinion on both Ash and Kaidan.

The Chief:

Ash: A strong woman who is attractive but not hypersexualized. I really liked her military bent -- adding her (after talking to Chris, who wrote her in ME1) to the Nirali Bhatia plot makes it a little stronger, I think. "The corrupt heartless military" is used often enough to be a cliche these days, and it was nice to have Ash there as a character with a conscience, reminding people that the people who died on Eden Prime were PEOPLE.

Sadly, Ash suffers from two problems:

1) She's human, and humans get hit harder than aliens by fans. I suspect the uncanny valley is involved -- if Wrex were just a big human guy, people would think he was a pointless thug. People see Wrex or Garrus or Tali and go "Oooh, new alien!" They see Ash or Special K and go, "Oh, wow, a human. Never seen one of those."

2) Her humans-first lines were frontloaded enough that a lot of people saw that and got turned off, never getting to the deeper parts of the character that gave her a more nuanced view. Next time we do a character like this, we're going to try to make the deeper parts a bit harder to miss. (Not impossible. You want to write somebody off, you still can. But we don't want you to have to look for it as hard.)


Kinda makes me wonder... was Kelly the next "human first" character? If so, I'd say she was frontloaded too much to the other direction. Posted Image

But I digress...

"Special K" next, as Mr. Weekes calls him: Posted Image

Kaidan: The concept here was essentially, "The guy who suspiciously does not have issues and doesn't need you to fix him." He's one of the big info-givers in the game about biotics, which was fun, and Sbarge does great delivery of wry, bemused lines.

Like Ash, Kaidan suffers from being human -- which is really tough, because you don't want Shepard to be the only human on the squad, but MAN, as soon as somebody gets correctly bending knees and working lips and a visible face, the bar gets raised on what we need to do to make people like them. I think that that's because people see being alien as a hook -- and so if you make a human follower, that human follower needs more of a hook than you expect, since they don't have that alien-ness to draw people. I really liked Kaidan.


Of course, he likes all other four squaddies as well. But still, ON TOPIC (Posted Image), it's nice to see a Bioware dev write something about the VS. It really seems at times they've been completely forgotten. Tho of course this was in October 2009... The challenge is seeing something mentioned about the VS AFTER ME2 was released. Posted Image

Still, there's a lot of other fun stuff on that thread. Go read, if you weren't around on the old forums.

http://meforums.biow...&forum=144&sp=0

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@ Mox---THANK YOU so much for looking through the old forums and posting that here.

It's very inspiring!

And I love how Weekes calls him "Special K."

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Mox Ruuga wrote...

Of course, he likes all other four squaddies as well. But still, ON TOPIC (Posted Image), it's nice to see a Bioware dev write something about the VS. It really seems at times they've been completely forgotten. Tho of course this was in October 2009... The challenge is seeing something mentioned about the VS AFTER ME2 was released. Posted Image

Still, there's a lot of other fun stuff on that thread. Go read, if you weren't around on the old forums.

http://meforums.biow...&forum=144&sp=0


I kind of think it's funny that they tried to make Kaidan as non-polarizing as possible. You know, a BioWare character that wasn't nose-deep in issues. Of course, people noticed he had issues anyway, so they wrote Jacob, who aggressively gets angry at you for assuming he has issues but is otherwise really, really boring.

Also. "Bemused" means "confused". So...wry, confused lines. :lol:

That was a really interesting read, thanks for sharing. I do think that being an alien is a special hook not just because they're different, because it allows us to see them different. As he said, a human Wrex would probably be seen as a thug--but because of krogan culture, it's easier to look at him from a different perspective. I'd love if we got some similar write-ups about the ME2 characters, but, as you said, they were chased off by us. :P

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Thank you so much for posting this, Mox! I never was on the old forums so it was an interesting read. (:

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@ mox: rock on! that is inspiring.



and bemused can mean confused or "to cause to have feelings of wry or tolerant amusement" - i think the latter is a little more like Kaidan (quoted from merriam webster's)