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[Biotic_Warlock]

Id love to be able to explore more of the citadel... i miss all the different areas

[sagefic]

JThompson6577 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I'd like a DLC that defines your current standing with the Council, Alliance, and Cerberus.

I imagine that the first hour of ME 3 will handle that.

I don't know. One of the challenges is that ME3 needs to begin with a bang, not unlike how ME2 did (though, man, I hope not the same kind of bang). Talking out ties with what organization you are with from the previous game would be a lot of talk and explication for a new player. While it would rather suck to have to buy a DLC to get closure on those things, it would make a lot more sense to put it BEFORE the main mission and have ME3 focus on stopping the Reapers.

I must admit, I'm torn. Part of me wants K/Ashley DLC. The other part wants them early and important in ME3 and I'm willing to wait for that IF it's just as good and epic as their own DLC. Both scenarios are plausible, but it really will depend on what BW determines will best capture fan interest, I think.

[Mox Ruuga]

sagequeen wrote...

I don't know. One of the challenges is that ME3 needs to begin with a bang

Farscape to the rescue again!


Start up with a "bang" = Shepard having a sex dream?

And then... waking up in a Reaper agent prison, all set up for the escape (tutorial level). Man, that would suck.

The ones without an LI will have that dream, oh yes. But it will have Udina in it. For both genders.

Modifié par Mox Ruuga, 10 octobre 2010 - 05:59 .

[sagefic]

Mox Ruuga wrote...
Start up with a "bang" = Shepard having a sex dream?

And then... waking up in a Reaper agent prison, all set up for the escape (tutorial level). Man, that would suck.

The ones without an LI will have that dream, oh yes. But it will have Udina in it. For both genders.

i can see the fox news report now... 

[siriusrambles]

sagequeen wrote...
I don't know. One of the challenges is that ME3 needs to begin with a bang, not unlike how ME2 did (though, man, I hope not the same kind of bang). Talking out ties with what organization you are with from the previous game would be a lot of talk and explication for a new player. While it would rather suck to have to buy a DLC to get closure on those things, it would make a lot more sense to put it BEFORE the main mission and have ME3 focus on stopping the Reapers.

I must admit, I'm torn. Part of me wants K/Ashley DLC. The other part wants them early and important in ME3 and I'm willing to wait for that IF it's just as good and epic as their own DLC. Both scenarios are plausible, but it really will depend on what BW determines will best capture fan interest, I think.

i've had similar thoughts about the dlc.  bioware's attempting to entice gamers to invest in their trilogy by starting with the final installment.  i imagine exposition would be low on the list of me3 opening scenes. 

[Fixers0]

I would really that this DLC will have more focus on the larger universe in mass effect rather then just small individual side stories like in the main game of mass effect 2,

[Mox Ruuga]

Fixers0 wrote...

I would really that this DLC will have more focus on the larger universe in mass effect rather then just small individual side stories like in the main game of mass effect 2,

Well, if it's going to happen, it will be a "bridging" DLC no doubt. By definition, that would mean it is of some consequence to the greater scheme of things. Just like LotSB was.

[Chignon]

sagequeen wrote...

*snip*

I must admit, I'm torn. Part of me wants K/Ashley DLC. The other part wants them early and important in ME3 and I'm willing to wait for that IF it's just as good and epic as their own DLC. Both scenarios are plausible, but it really will depend on what BW determines will best capture fan interest, I think.

I agree, even though I don't understand why both are thought to be inevitably mutually exclusive.

With how Bioware set Liara up in LotSB for ME3, I imagine she'll get an important role - if not as a squadmate than at least as the one to give Shepard the information s/he needs. Why shouldn't the same treatment be possible for Ash and Kaidan?

[JThompson6577]

prizm123 wrote...

i want something that sort of addresses why didn't Liara tell or get help from Ashley/Kaiden in recovering Shepard's body or at least let them know what was going on. They were not antagonistic in ME1, and were squadmates. It could have avoided the whole mess on Horizon and with the Council not trusting you.

Obviously this is just me pointing out a rather obvious plot hole, but it is a valid question i think.

If, as I'm starting to suspect, Liara's the cannon LI in Mas Effect 1.  (The comics certainly implied it) then they may very well be a little antagonistic to Liara.

[FireEye]

JThompson6577 wrote...

prizm123 wrote...

i want something that sort of addresses why didn't Liara tell or get help from Ashley/Kaiden in recovering Shepard's body or at least let them know what was going on. They were not antagonistic in ME1, and were squadmates. It could have avoided the whole mess on Horizon and with the Council not trusting you.

Obviously this is just me pointing out a rather obvious plot hole, but it is a valid question i think.

If, as I'm starting to suspect, Liara's the cannon LI in Mas Effect 1.  (The comics certainly implied it) then they may very well be a little antagonistic to Liara.

I think it's half and half on Liara's part.  I think, regardless of what she says about jealousy, she doesn't want to share Shepard, but will if that's the only way she can have Shepard.  Come ME2, she's still obsessed, and she (sort of) has Shepard all to herself, in a way, even if she's leasing Shepard to Cerberus (who have no emotional attachment to Shepard).

Even if they weren't your LI, the VS still cares strongly about Shepard. 

Plus Liara would have to admit to the Alliance that she gave Shepard to Cerberus.  Which probably wouldn't go over well.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

(I do suspect that Liara almost appears to be the default Mass Effect LI, but that she was the LI that couldn't die in ME1 probably played a big part in what her role became.

... and they do seem to have striped out all but two references to the VS as a LI, which is very strange.  )

[Chignon]

Brodyaha wrote...

Chignon wrote...

I agree, even though I don't understand why both are thought to be inevitably mutually exclusive.

With how Bioware set Liara up in LotSB for ME3, I imagine she'll get an important role - if not as a squadmate than at least as the one to give Shepard the information s/he needs. Why shouldn't the same treatment be possible for Ash and Kaidan?

Completely agree, Chignon.

We can politely ask for DLC featuring Kaid and Ash, AND still have their important role saved for ME3.
I want my cake and to eat it too.`
Although I'd be eating both DLC cake and ME3 cake.
But both would be delicious.

The more cake, the better.

FireEye wrote...
*snip*

... and they do seem to have striped out all but two references to the VS as a LI, which is very strange.  )

Agreed. It can't be just pure oversight, can it?

[sagefic]

Out of curiosity: what would people's feeling be about Shep and the romanced VS's prior relationship becoming known? I have often wondered if anyone knew about it (Liara and the other VS seemed to - though the other VS is gone now). Or does this not matter anymore as Shep is no longer Alliance? Or did it not matter to begin with as everyone turned a blind eye? I just wonder how (if at all) the regs issue will play out in the relationship going forward.

[Reverie]

@sagequeen - The regs thing never really bothered me. I never gave it much thought. I know that a lot of people on the boards have, but it's always been something I've (admittedly) kind of just brushed to the side. However now that I'm doing my 5th lay through of my character Jo in ME (and finally writing her story) My opinion on that will probably change.

[sagefic]

Brodyaha wrote...
If Alliance asked Hackett to discharge Kaidan and Ash from service, I could see him saying, "request denied."

That would be awesome. I would cheer.

[trobbins777]

Brodyaha wrote...

Oh! Good question sage.

I would LOVE to see it become known. I want my romantic relationship acknolwedged with them.
Not necessarily posted all throughout Citadel news, but I think Anderson and Hackett should pick up on it.  And maybe other Alliance officials would as well, which could be interesting.

Fact is that Kaidan, Ashley, and Shepard broke regs; Shepard had to choose one of those people to die on Virmire. Perhaps people would disagree, but I think if the Alliance questions her/him or resorts to interrogation (NOT torture) then it would make the decision on Virmire more worthwhile and poignant.   The Alliance could question Shepard-- was s/he thinking clearly during that decision, or did s/he think with his/her emotions instead?

And we could see the reprocussions of breaking regs, instead of an empty thread like it was in ME1.
And although Anderson is usually understanding and supporting of Shep, I don't see him being sympathetic to fraternization; I think he would be disappointed in Shep and Kaidan/Ashley.

I can't see him really reprimanding either person; he'd probably keep silent, with a few choice words. But I could see BioWare conveying his disappointment through his facial expressions.

I would love to see Shep, Kaidan, and Ashley's reactions regarding their relationship becoming public knowledge.

For some reason, I can't see Hackett overly reacting to that realization. If Alliance asked Hackett to discharge Kaidan and Ash from service, I could see him saying, "request denied."

Sorry, a slightly rambling answer, but there you go.

OBJECTION!

Technically they didn't break regs since Shepard is/was a spectre and not a part of the alliance military.

LOOPHOLE FTWB)

[Mox Ruuga]

sagequeen wrote...

Out of curiosity: what would people's feeling be about Shep and the romanced VS's prior relationship becoming known? I have often wondered if anyone knew about it (Liara and the other VS seemed to - though the other VS is gone now). Or does this not matter anymore as Shep is no longer Alliance? Or did it not matter to begin with as everyone turned a blind eye? I just wonder how (if at all) the regs issue will play out in the relationship going forward.

Didn't the crew of the Normandy know? Joker, at least.

No matter who Shepard's LI was in ME1, I don't see the matter being open for the public, tho I bet there were a lot of rumors (soldiers love to gossip). And media speculation as well, tho much of that was probably the "Aish Ashland and Commander Shepard (allegedly) went to the same club, reliable witnesses saw them making out and not caring if anyone saw it. Will Aish have finally found real love?" type of crud.

As someone else said, Anderson probably wouldn't approve, and I bet Hackett would be disappointed also. Hackett is the one more likely to openly chastise Shepard for it, tho. In the end, I don't think they would have disciplined either Shepard or the VS, but they might have stationed the VS away from Shepard's command.

[Krimson_Wolf]

If a DLC like this is going to be made then I hope it involves taking down TIM. He is really starting to ****** me off.

[close2myheart]

I somehow have mixed feelings regarding the 'F' rules within the Alliance ; If personels aren't supposed to pursue a relationship between them, then why does Shep got a bonus of Paragon points for Spacer background? (both parent serve the Navy and Mom's still in active duty ) And Anderson/Udina/Hackett (can't remember which) mentions about it in the ME1 prologue  with a positive tone too.
So if mom n dad can get away with it, then why can't Shep do the same thing? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] I know my Shep will continue that family tradition of keeping it in the Navy when she met Kaidan

And I always have this suspicion of Anderson having a strong hunch that there is something going on between Shep and K/A. He kinda knew, but didn't press the issue. Because roughly a month later K/A are still being asigned to the Normandy under Shep's command.

But then again why put those rules up if you're not serious in implementing them ? After all, this IS the military.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]hmm...
Or maybe it's ok if you don't get caught  Or one of those things that ,"as long as you're being discreet, do your job well then we could turn a blind eye on that matter."

Brodyaha wrote...

I would love to see Shep, Kaidan, and Ashley's reactions regarding their relationship becoming public knowledge.

Public: "OOOhhh, the love interest of Citadel's saviour??" :O:O

I bet reporters will be on the run scraping for news and any bits of info regarding both of 'em. I can see the paparazzi madness already

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Modifié par close2myheart, 11 octobre 2010 - 06:46 .

[Chignon]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Out of curiosity: what would people's feeling be about Shep and the romanced VS's prior relationship becoming known? I have often wondered if anyone knew about it (Liara and the other VS seemed to - though the other VS is gone now). Or does this not matter anymore as Shep is no longer Alliance? Or did it not matter to begin with as everyone turned a blind eye? I just wonder how (if at all) the regs issue will play out in the relationship going forward.

*snip*

As someone else said, Anderson probably wouldn't approve, and I bet Hackett would be disappointed also. Hackett is the one more likely to openly chastise Shepard for it, tho. In the end, I don't think they would have disciplined either Shepard or the VS, but they might have stationed the VS away from Shepard's command.

This is pretty much my stance on it, too.

On the other hand if the regs should become an issue, I can imagine that Shepard's involvement with Cerberus could play a role in it, too. Having been involved with someone who is now considered to be little more than a Cerberus agent certainly wouldn't shed a good light on Ash and Kaidan.

Modifié par Chignon, 11 octobre 2010 - 11:47 .

[sagefic]

well, i have heard arguments both ways re: regs. some think it is sweet/romantic, others think it is dumb/career suicide/this is why i choose liara territory. 

i realized that part of the confusion is the way BW treats it.

ashley had this letter to her sister (on the website, not in game) where she's pretty frank about how she view fraternization as bad. but then, in game, she's pretty sly about her "he's already sweet on someone" re: kaidan/femshep. i always heard a note of encouragement/matchmaking in her voice, not criticism. never done a romanced ash run, so someone will have to fill me in on her reaction to fraternization there.

in me2, joker says something like "this is why i don't date people from work" - again, very casual about regs breaking. (date? from work? really?)

kaidan's reaction is most cautious (only when we get that they are currently mutineers post virmire facing possible death does he relax on the issue and then only at femshep's urging), but even he is talking about shore leave and flirting with shep far prior to ilos. i would imagine that shore leave with a romantic intent would fall under franternization, but somehow it seems not to.

so basically, while the word on the street seems to be breaking regs = bad, it's like that gets forgotten constantly or even ignored. maybe that was what BW was going for, but i for one would be interested to get a stronger verdict.

Modifié par sagequeen, 11 octobre 2010 - 07:55 .