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As long as they don't all bum rush my house at once, I'm good for it. Unlike Parasini. I WANT A BEER WOMAN! Not a chip.

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Is it possible that they are saving Kaiden/Ashley for ME3? I'd forego a VS DLC if they are properly incorporated into ME3. At the end of Lair of the ShadowBroker I felt that the game was truly complete. Maybe they're done with DLC and are working hard on ME3? If they wish to get it out before the end of 2011, they've got a lot of work ahead. Don't forget they're launching Dragon Age 2 (and the associated DLC for that title) and Star Wars The Old Republic (plus patches, support) that year as well. Putting ME3 on the same calendar year might be stretching them, but continuing DLC packs for ME2 is just further putting them behind. ME2 has been out for almost a year already, perhaps they really should start focus on ME3.

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chem light wrote...
I would literally buy any BW employee I ever a met in rl a beer if it was well done VS DLC.

I would happily split that tab with you.

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Argh, I killed the thread again.

Ok, here's a thought I had. To combine (sort of) the subject of where we'd like to take the VS and the idea of having a conversation about Shepard's death, I'd like to take them to the Normandy's crash site. Now, this assumes that you get the Crash Site DLC, but it's free, so why not. For me that site really drove the point home that not only had the ship gone done in a fiery mess, but that it took Shepard with it, and then enough time passed for the pieces to fall to the planet's surface and be covered in snow and dirt. Shepard died. The Normandy died. Half the crew died. Then two years went by without them.

If Shepard were to take Kaidan or Ashley anywhere to make a case for his/her death (besides Lazarus Station, which would also be awesome), the crash site would do the trick. Granted this wouldn't be exceptionally hospitable or relaxing, but it would be a place to come to terms with all that has happened and to start working on picking up the pieces. I also want the Mako back. Any thoughts on the matter?

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Kaiden/Ashley, Kaiden/Ashley... just stop it already. If the story of Mass effect is forwarded and they are involved then fine but if not, no thanks. Also annoying is the "Shep back story" suggestion. Keep it moving! No flashbacks to how Shep got started, no First Contact War, no how Garrus got his squad.

I'd rather see DLC or preferably expansions that open up new areas on our maps (citadel, omega, etc) that can be revisited instead of doing a couple of missions in new areas and not being able to return to them.

At the center of said DLC/expansion should be a story or events that move the trilogy forward. For those of us that told TIM to eat a dick, new missions should come from Liara or even EDI; from TIM for the pro Cerberus people. The squad mates should have new dialogue, new things to do. I'm sure everybody is sick of calling them up to their room for snuggles. Ultimately this content would be best if it could only be triggered after the suicide mission and LotSB

Here's an example: You travel to the citadel to take evidence to Anderson about the Reapers. Shep and Jacob get schlitzed at Flux. If Jacob and Sheppard are romancing then maybe they get really loud on the citadel. Shep, Garrus go and visit Dr. Michel. This then sparks conversation about Garrus’s mother and Sheppard offers to help. Upon meeting Anderson, you learn of his resignation from the council and other some of what happened in Retribution. He suggests that you gather more evidence. You track down Chorban for the Keeper data. Anderson drops a line to you later about some project or mission related that Kaiden/Ashley are on involving the Geth and that it's gone silent. Intel is limited so you need another source. Shep get's in contact with Emily Wong who steers you toward a source on Omega.

En route to Omega, Liara pings you about the events of Retribution and gets you a secret place to dock (remember that Aria will be pissed at all things Cerberus). You track down Wong's source who then tells you that Aria's forces have been acting strangely lately, above normal shakedowns and something about an Alliance prisoner. That being all the info they have, Shep is going to need more intel. Time to lean on Anto (regardless of how the Ish mission is handled, he is still exploitable) after some paragon or renegade persuasion, Anto tells you the location of Kaiden/Ashley and why Aria is holding them. Turns out, Aria wants to get to get a hold of you, being affiliated with the Cerbs and all.

The player has a choice here: bust Ashley/Kaiden out or go deal with Aria. Doing the former is a more pro-cerberus thing; it results in a gun battle and will ultimately make for a potential new enemy in Aria for ME3. The second choice results in talking to Aria and EDI giving her a ton of Cerberus intel thus assuring Aria is on your side and maybe opens up a one nighter (if the player wants).

Back onboard the Normandy. Shep talks to Kaiden/Ashley. If they were a LI and you've moved on this may become heated and there should be some friction between them and new LI depending on paragon or renegade choices during this convo. If Shep has stayed “true" then all out whoopee should ensue. Now if Shep has moved on, but wants to get back with K/A then there should be an option to go and break it off with current LI but K/A will need time to think about things, until then let's focus on the mission. Also if Shep pro Cerberus, I think it's definitely over.

The mission is about the Geth (stupid Alliance). On the way to their mission they were attacked by pirates, their squad killed and they needed to resupply on Omega when Aria grabbed them. If you were a tool and gave Legion to Cerberus, then there’s a good chance that there could be Geth on the move. If Legion was recruited, then introductions are in order and Legions story about the heretics and the loyalty mission is shared. However, this should be investigated. Go to the galaxy map and head to the co-ordinates.

Once you arrive in this new system, you scan the planets and an anomaly is revealed. EDI warns of ships matching Geth signatures are indeed on the planet’s surface as well as several other life forms. K/A joins you in the shuttle along with another squad mate and then everybody heads to the surface. There are 2 Geth ships on the ground outside of what appear to be some ruins. Your team heads inside, there are no Geth to be seen. Upon further exploration, EDI pipes up that these ruins are in fact Prothean and there’s strange readings coming from deeper inside. You begin to encounter the bodies of destroyed Geth, everybody is getting bad feelings. Suddenly Shep comes upon a chamber with what looks like a Prothean beacon the centre. There’s a problem though: the Yahg. A fierce battle ensues, the Yahg always hunt in small groups. After the fight, K/A asks what the hell those things were and you share the details about how the Yahg are supposed to be pre-space flight. The Geth that follow the Reapers (or the heretics before rewrite/destruction) must’ve been sent to uplift the Yahg in order to aid the Reapers with their plans. Due to their fierce nature they killed the Geth that brought them there. This bad news because now there’s a very good chance of Yahg (in various phases of indoctrination) loose on the galaxy with Geth tech.

But why?

As Sheppard nears the beacon, images begin to flash through your mind. Reapers, Collectors, Protheans and lastly a series of buildings.

“Oh, not this again.” K/A will say as they help you to your feet. We need this info deciphered. Time to go and visit our favorite blue friend.

Shep then radios Joker to tell him to have the Shadow Broker base punched in and ready to go by the time you take the shuttle back. If you chose to encourage the Quarians to go to war with the Geth and Legion was recruited, Joker will then inform you of a little problem. Legion has boarded one of the Geth ships on the planet surface and is making a getaway (presumably to warn his peeps of the upcoming war with the Quarians). He gets away but there are other things to worry about for now. You get back onboard the Normandy.

While en route to visit with Liara, you can continue with working on your relationship with K/A or be pleasantly surprised to see them blending in with the crew. Ash could be sharing jarhead jargon with Jacob in the armory and Kaiden could be found chillin’ with Chakwas in the med bay. During this time Miranda could express some major concerns about her sister (if you told TIM to go fark a hat) this could lead to fighting some of Cerberus’s military division (and new weapons), Tali could be in disbelieve and maybe a little I told you so concerning Legion, you could talk dinosaurs with Grunt, poetry with Jack, sushi with Kasumi, etc. It’d be nice to see the crew and squad interacting with each other. Thane leaves life support and hangs with Garrus. That kind of stuff.

Once at the SB base, K/A is a little shocked to find out that Liara is the new Shadow Broker but the real reason for the visit is the Prothean beacon vision. Liara and Shep embrace eternity and it’s revealed that the data from beacon leads to another site that has the records of how the Protheans built the conduit. The Reapers must be trying to build another mass relay to get them from dark space. Luck is on our side because without the cipher, there’s no way for anybody else to decode the message as to this new sites whereabouts. Or is that maybe why Harbinger is so interested in Sheppard? Needs it. Wants it. Wants the cipher my precious.

Before leaving, you can arrange another dinner date with Liara (if she’s a LI), ask to her to do something to help Miranda’s sis (if applicable) and to help with any other things that will benefit your crew.

Next up, the location of the mass relay data.

Sheppard and company arrive at this only to be attacked by Yahg operated Geth ships as soon as they arrive at the relay. We get treated to some serious coolness as we play once again as Joker, this time at the helm of the Normandy. Once the battle is over, we land, fight some more Yahg on the ground and grab the intel. Shep can then choose to keep the data for Cerberus or hand it over to the Alliance or even the council.

Once back aboard the Normandy. It will be resolution time with K/A and you converse with your squaddies about the stuff that happened with respects to the mission or more personal matters... Relationships with your LI can be continued. The end of the DLC will happen with K/A leaving on good, bad or neutral terms.

I apologize for the rambling wall of text; I just pulled this out of my butt.


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These are great suggestions, but you do realize that you are posting in a thread dedicated to the discussion of a DLC for two specific characters. So it naturally follows that it would be full of suggestions for interactions with said characters. Don't get me wrong, we don't just want a dating sim, there have been a lot of suggestions for adventures and exploration. Granted, this undoubtedly the most detailed one I've seen, but most of the ideas do revolve around some sort of escapade.

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Bennyjammin79 wrote...

Kaiden/Ashley, Kaiden/Ashley... just stop it already....


Little one may need to learn some things about how to play nicely with others.

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sir-edmund wrote...

These are great suggestions, but you do realize that you are posting in a thread dedicated to the discussion of a DLC for two specific characters. So it naturally follows that it would be full of suggestions for interactions with said characters. Don't get me wrong, we don't just want a dating sim, there have been a lot of suggestions for adventures and exploration. Granted, this undoubtedly the most detailed one I've seen, but most of the ideas do revolve around some sort of escapade.


I know where I'm posting. I've just seen too many post with "I can haz cuddles?" So unless K/A are involved with a story that furthers the plot of the trilogy, there's no point in making DLC with them other than fan service. From the tone of most people, you'd think that the next content released is FOR SURE going to be centralized around the VS. Imagine the disappointment if it's not.

There's an overblown sense of fan entitlement on the forums, people carrying on about how Bioware hasn't made any statements regarding what's next. LotSB hasn't been out that long, so everybody chill out. They will tell us when they're ready. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome to see how much people drool for this game.

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avalon30 wrote...
Little one may need to learn some things about how to play nicely with others.

 You'll get over it.

Modifié par Bennyjammin79, 19 octobre 2010 - 02:07 .


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I don't even think you have read any parts of this thread. I don't think most people here think they are entitled to a specific DLC. I also don't think that anyone thinks it's going to happen with 100% certainty. I think they're all just trying to be optimisitic because it's something they would like to see. Also I don't think that anyone has said they want a Kaidan/Ashley DLC that focuses just on romance. Really, don't like the topic here? Tthen here is a hint: Stay out of the thread.

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Primarily at Bennyjammin79, but to others who might also hold the same view:



We're not asking for fan entitlement.

I understand if you haven't read 60+ pages of post, but we're asking for DLC that involves the VS; we know that it's highly unlikely that any DLC would be centralized around them.

Like Liara with Lair of the Shadow Broker. That was awesomely done, it featured more of Liara--she definitely had a larger role, the friendship/romance was resolved enough for ME3--but she wasn't the be-all-end-all of the plot. The plot was about taking down the SB.

A lot of people on here have also happened to romance Ashley and Kaidan, so we're looking for closure on that.

And yeah, we're getting antsy. Let us be antsy, it makes for good discussion.

And I think we're pretty realistic in our expectations, but we can also hold on to the kernels of optimism.

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Is anywhere safe these past few days lol. Bioware, the fans are hungry, we need a tidbit!

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

avalon30 wrote...
Little one may need to learn some things about how to play nicely with others.

 You'll get over it.


Irony. This post has it.


We love this part of the ME saga, and naturally we would like more. That's not harming anyone, we're tucked away in a few threads, so there's hardly an issue. It would most likely come paired with an alliance type mission, so everybody happy

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LadyJaneGrey wrote...

harryriedl wrote...

Darthbill52 wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Also, I loved the way Meer and Hale said, "Come back soon, Liara."


Agreed, there was a sence of something Humanity, Fellowship that was there as well in ME1 that didnt get in ME2

Agreed I have finally started a second play though ME1their is far more of a connection with crew its the small diffrences which makes the diffrence such as talking Chakwas  and being able get info about Kadian and Joker and the use of the comm room with the rest of the crew and being able to cut of council and turning it into a joke with Joker, It felt like a crew unlike the lots of little worlds on the SR2 no dialioge between crew apart from the big fights(baring Jakob and Mirandia, Joker which feels strange considoring the size of your team). Did love the that bit as well.


One of my favorite "humanizing" moments in ME2 is drinking with Dr. Chakwas.  She and Shep are both very isolated, each doing their best to utilize their skills to help others survive.  The parallels between the characters and that night of camaraderie always make me smile.

Bioware, please keep adding these lovely relationship moments!


I agree espically if you play it out and choose the toast "Just Being Drunk" it adds a lighthearted moment in a brooding universe

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Here's hopefully a new discussion topic to keep the gears rolling:

Should Admiral Hackett show up in DLC--either a vocal or a physical appearance--what role should he play? And how does it tie in to Kaidan and Ashley's Alliance role?

Modifié par Brodyaha, 20 octobre 2010 - 04:26 .


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Yes I think we should actually meet adm. Hacket, instead of him being the Charlie to our angel,lol I always thought figuring the alliance where and who it is or even the citadel council. They got to have a bug up there butt with shepard(UDINA) and has him court marshialed for treason. The Kaidan/Ash role/ Hackett role support shepard. But there needs to be gunfire(shepards made some enemies) and they attack the procedings. Ash/Kaidan help you reclaim hacket/anderson/udina. Havent really fleshed it out but its a thought

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Brodyaha wrote...

Here's hopefully a new discussion topic to keep the gears rolling:

Should Admiral Hackett show up in DLC--either a vocal or a physical appearance, what role should he play? And how does it tie in to Kaidan and Ashley's Alliance role?


If Hackett cannot be worked into the main plot of the DLC...

Receiving a transmission from him while VS is in the room could be amusing.
  • Hackett: "Shepard.  Glad you're back.  I need you once again for a mission that is completely not your responsibility or jurisdiction."
  • VS: "Wait, he's still doing that?"
  • If VS is now high-ranking and answers only to the Alliance: "He never requested I do those kinds of things; guess you're just lucky."
  • Shepard shares a knowing look with VS, then selects...a) respectful cooperation, B) rude dismissal, or c) incredibly long sigh.
I'm sure Hackett can be incorporated better, but a few pokes at Mass Effect's idiosyncrasies are always fun.:innocent:

Modifié par LadyJaneGrey, 20 octobre 2010 - 03:01 .


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i know a lot of people would like to see his face, but hes a middle aged dude, so it could only lead to disappointment



Unless, hes actually tIM. Dun dun dun....



Haha 'Charlie to our angel' love it

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

i know a lot of people would like to see his face, but hes a middle aged dude, so it could only lead to disappointment


Nah.  He just needs to look like Lance Henrickson.  ^_^

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Bennyjammin79 wrote...
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wow, this would be flippin awesome...far beyond that of a DLC tho.  This would be a total expansion

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I mentioned it in other thread, I would prefer some Lelianas Song like DLC. Pre ME2 Ashley / Kaiden x Cerberus. Keep the Ashley / Kaiden x Shepard to ME3.

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FireEye wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

i know a lot of people would like to see his face, but hes a middle aged dude, so it could only lead to disappointment


Nah.  He just needs to look like Lance Henrickson.  ^_^


Yhey'd probably save a face reveal for ME3.
But it would be a good marketing tactic if BW revealed his face in a DLC.

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I could see ME3 being a game of face reveals-- Hackett, Tali... okay, maybe 2 isn't enough to make it a game full of them... goes away to think of others... LOL

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Theres so no way they could do a face reveal and it be good, unless they did a face scan of a well known celeb, that would surprise the crap out of us.



Like if Hackett was based on Joan rivers, and Tali Joseph Merrick

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I think Hackett and VS could be incorporated in a DLC that addresses what ties, if any, Shep maintains with the Alliance. Perhaps, VS could be sent by the good admiral to track down Shep and offer him/her and crew a commission as a corsair ship working for the Alliance. Then the DLC could revolve around Hackett's first "thank goodness you're in the area, Shep" mission which might lead to uncovering some sort of Reaper intel. VS could join in the fun and coversations along the way could be used to hash out the issues between Shep and VS.

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Bennyjammin79 wrote...
[Edit: Snipped an incredibly lengthy quote. Please trim your posts, there's no point in quoting an entire post when you're only adding a couple lines at the end. -- Pacifien]


Awesome idea... but way too complicated for BioWare... they would rather charge us $10 or (excuse me) 800 "points" and just give us some linear mission and no added story line.  Much easier way to make money.

Modifié par Pacifien, 21 octobre 2010 - 04:16 .