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[ciaweth]

Collider wrote...

Some people are religious. And some of those religions disagree with homosexuality or homosexual sex. I can therefore see where some people are coming from, even if I don't ever agree with them.

Yep, and that's why they can pick the "No, dude, I don't swing that way," option. 

[Collider]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Got to love picking and choosing.

[Onyx Jaguar]

AlexXIV wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I have seen many people complain about how Jacob from Mass Effect makes them feel uncomfortable. Mainly due to how Shepard interacts with them. Its not unforseable that in a similar situation Zevran would make many uncomfortable. Hell even Liara from ME 1 made me uncomfortable at times.

Oghren made me comfortable, and he even had a comeback in DA:A!

Agreed by a 1000% especially in Awakening

[CrookedAsylum]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I have seen many people complain about how Jacob from Mass Effect makes them feel uncomfortable. Mainly due to how Shepard interacts with them. Its not unforseable that in a similar situation Zevran would make many uncomfortable. Hell even Liara from ME 1 made me uncomfortable at times.

This. This I'm totally chill with. I had to grit my teeth and mentally prepare myself when I talked to Jacob and Liara both.

[ErichHartmann]

AlexXIV wrote...

Collider wrote...

Some people are religious. And some of those religions disagree with homosexuality or homosexual sex. I can therefore see where some people are coming from, even if I don't ever agree with them.

They are not required to like it, only tolerate people who think different.

What he said.  I would hate to see certain aspects of a game toned down or removed because it makes some people "uncomfortable".   

[AlexXIV]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I have seen many people complain about how Jacob from Mass Effect makes them feel uncomfortable. Mainly due to how Shepard interacts with them. Its not unforseable that in a similar situation Zevran would make many uncomfortable. Hell even Liara from ME 1 made me uncomfortable at times.

Oghren made me comfortable, and he even had a comeback in DA:A!

Agreed by a 1000% especially in Awakening

Well that was a typo, sry.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 25 août 2010 - 11:14 .

[Laverty317]

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

[CrookedAsylum]

Collider wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Got to love picking and choosing.

Coincidentally, I don't think the Bible mentioned anything about lesbianism...
But then, that may be because the main argument I've seen for homophobia had to do with Genesis 19:19.

[HarryThePlotter]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Flame crusades start NOW!

Where did you read the word Bible BTW?....

[CrookedAsylum]

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I am more excited for character interactions and development than I am for carving up darkspawn.~

[ciaweth]

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I'm as excited by the slaughterfest as I am by Hawke's hoohoo and dingding prospects.  I am an equal opportunity sinner in games.

[Onyx Jaguar]

HarryThePlotter wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Flame crusades start NOW!

Where did you read the word Bible BTW?....

Subconcious thoughts.

Hawke's gay beard is beholded by the Dragon Age bible

or something like that.  Quite a righteous beard actually

[HTTP 404]

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I agree with you 100% but I wouldnt have put it the way you just did

however, people seem to like romancing.  yucky, cooties either way, straight or gay.

[AlexXIV]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I am more excited for character interactions and development than I am for carving up darkspawn.~

I am sure if the story is deep enough you don't need companions at all, or LIs. But such stories just don't happen anymore, so we are taking care of other people private problems while the main story trickles on.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 25 août 2010 - 11:19 .

[CrookedAsylum]

HarryThePlotter wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Flame crusades start NOW!

Where did you read the word Bible BTW?....

Oh poop, I have to stop doing that. Whenever someone mentions homophobia and religion in the same sentence, my mind immediately jumps to the Bible and Christianty. D=

And I'm not religion bashing, I promise. Religion is a wonderful, wonderful thing that gives so many people hope and a sense of community. It's just a shame that the interpretations taken up from some religions cause so much harm.

[Onyx Jaguar]

HTTP 404 wrote...

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I agree with you 100% but I wouldnt have put it the way you just did

however, people seem to like romancing.  yucky, cooties either way, straight or gay.

And to think I haven't seen any bathing facilities about, nor sewer facilities.  At least that are connected to the buildings anyway.

But if a castle doesn't have any bathrooms then why would they have to have a sewer infrastructure

[Collider]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Collider wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Got to love picking and choosing.

Coincidentally, I don't think the Bible mentioned anything about lesbianism...
But then, that may be because the main argument I've seen for homophobia had to do with Genesis 19:19.

There is a passage that seems to mention lesbianism as unnatural in the Bible.

[shootist70]

HarryThePlotter wrote...

products represent their lifestyles" = faux-realism?

Ah, you're using buzz-words as an opinion...how expressive.

Nobody is asking for Gaysimworld. They're simply asking for the same things that everybody enjoys from their fictional characters and romantic content - character identification and emotive content that can appeal to them directly.  

[Tirigon]

Is Hawke Gay?

Yes. Otherwise the game sucks. We don´t want DA2 to suck, do we?

Modifié par Tirigon, 25 août 2010 - 11:22 .

[CrookedAsylum]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

Laverty317 wrote...

I dont see why everyone cares so much about the whole ''romance'' and ''gay or straight'' thing, shouldnt you all be excited for carving up some darkspawn rather than if your character gets some ****** or pee pee?

I agree with you 100% but I wouldnt have put it the way you just did

however, people seem to like romancing.  yucky, cooties either way, straight or gay.

And to think I haven't seen any bathing facilities about, nor sewer facilities.  At least that are connected to the buildings anyway.

But if a castle doesn't have any bathrooms then why would they have to have a sewer infrastructure

For the hero to sneak about and avoid capture, of course.

[Collider]

shootist70 wrote...

HarryThePlotter wrote...

products represent their lifestyles" = faux-realism?

Ah, you're using buzz-words as an opinion...how expressive.

Nobody is asking for Gaysimworld. They're simply asking for the same things that everybody enjoys from their fictional characters and romantic content - character identification and emotive content that can appeal to them directly.  

I am asking for gaysimworld.

[AlexXIV]

Tirigon wrote...

Is Hawke Gay?

Yes. Otherwise the game sucks. We don´t want DA2 to suck, do we?

We don't mind women who suck though.

[Heimdall]

Just_mike wrote...

During Dragon Age, the Warden was "YOU". You could decide who he or she is in almost every aspect. From hair color, gender, to temperment via voice.
But in Dragon Age 2, we dont have that flexibility. With Hawke being only human and being voiced and whatnot.
Out of curiosity, does this rigidness mean that Hawke as a character, male or female, will not be interested in the same sex?

Just wondering.

Aside from voice and race, Hawke is just about as flexible as the Warden.  You still pick gender, appearance and class, I see no reason for anyone to think "Hawke" (Who is still very much your character) to be restricted to a sexuality not of your choice.

Why does everyone seem to think giving Hawke a set last name means it is an entirely predefined character.  ALL of your Wardens had set last names as well,, and were even called by it in some cases (Though only rarely as they likely did not want to have to record even more lines of dialogue) and just like the Warden, you get to choose a first name.  Also:

Hawke =/= Shepard

Shepard was a space marine with a very specific mission that was bound to the Paragon Renegade system.  All the options you were given reflected this.  (Why there was no male/male romance, had little to do with Shepard, and more to do with Bioware.  I don't know why) Hawke is bound to no such system and I think it was Gaider who posted that Hawke was a much less predefined character than Shepard

All that is a little off topic though.  So, in conclusion, considering it was in the previous game:

You'll likely be able to be as gay as you want with at least one love interest of like mind

Granted, I'll probably never explore that romance so I don't particularly care

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 25 août 2010 - 11:25 .

[CrookedAsylum]

Collider wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Collider wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I love it when people use the Bible to defend their homophobia, considering what else the Bible was against that, more often than not, they choose to 'put into historical context'.

Got to love picking and choosing.

Coincidentally, I don't think the Bible mentioned anything about lesbianism...
But then, that may be because the main argument I've seen for homophobia had to do with Genesis 19:19.

There is a passage that seems to mention lesbianism as unnatural in the Bible.

Hmm, I'll have to look for it.

[HarryThePlotter]

shootist70 wrote...

HarryThePlotter wrote...

products represent their lifestyles" = faux-realism?

Ah, you're using buzz-words as an opinion...how expressive.

Nobody is asking for Gaysimworld. They're simply asking for the same things that everybody enjoys from their fictional characters and romantic content - character identification and emotive content that can appeal to them directly.  

er... I copied your line from your previous post and just tried to connect to the word I had used earlier (faux-realism)?