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#126
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Wolverfrog wrote...

I fail to see how you could bear to play DA:O for 70+ hours like some people in this thread are saying. Multiple playthroughs, yes, but in one playthrough? The side-quests that weren't personal quests were for the most part terribly dull, and not worth my time.

I got forty hours out of my first playthrough, and thirty out of my second. It was the same with Mass Effect 2.


Well, here's an average run of mine with the time stamps for 82 hours. Fell free to compare to yours.. wait... you don't have any data uploaded *sighs* ... out of curiosity, which difficulty did you play your 40 hrs and your 30hrs run?

http://social.biowar...na_id=214917586

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It's more about what they say to our personal experiences with DAO to compare, what i mean is;

Before DAO was launch they claimed a lot more than 30 hours in the main campaing if im not wrong, so if they are saying this one will have just 30, it means it will probably much shorter.


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Dude, in case you haven't noticed, you're the only one in here obsessed with game stats and what difficulty everyone else is playing on. It's clear that you're going to make the most of DA2 and then brag about it incessantly, so why do you care if he/she did their run on nightmare?

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Does difficulty even really matter? I get that challenge is good for some people, but difficulties like Nightmare etc. I don't really get because it's harder fights; each one has higher HP, higher damage output, better armor, but the AI is still pretty crap, and all you really seem to get out of nightmare is longer lasting fights. And that doesn't appeal to me because, I don't know, I don't like spending 2 or three hours on a single fight; I go for story content, storyline and everything.



I get how people can get to 100 hours, and that's fine; but why whine about it if it's been already proven in this topic that everyone has had different experiences with the games length? I mean, everyone's length will be different, and surprise surprise, 30-40 hours of a game is a long time. Quantity does not make a quality product, after all.

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RageGT wrote...

Wolverfrog wrote...

I fail to see how you could bear to play DA:O for 70+ hours like some people in this thread are saying. Multiple playthroughs, yes, but in one playthrough? The side-quests that weren't personal quests were for the most part terribly dull, and not worth my time.

I got forty hours out of my first playthrough, and thirty out of my second. It was the same with Mass Effect 2.


Well, here's an average run of mine with the time stamps for 82 hours. Fell free to compare to yours.. wait... you don't have any data uploaded *sighs* ... out of curiosity, which difficulty did you play your 40 hrs and your 30hrs run?

http://social.biowar...na_id=214917586

There are actually more ways to enjoy Dragon Age than your way, dude.

I know I said you were the best Dragon Ager ever, but honestly, give it a rest.

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Krytheos wrote...

You know, I think it's obvious by the different reporting time by each of us that it will likely be VERY different hours of playtime for everyone. I mean, 100 hours for the entire game to me is absurd -- I managed to do all the content read all the entires, etc in around 33 - 40 hours. Sure, I play on Casual, but I don't go to roleplaying games for the absurd difficulty if there is any. I go for the storyline, and as long as DA2's storyline is fine, and the main quest is 20-30 hours, I'll be more than satisfied with the game.


I can garantee you that combat alone in NM can make you double the time of your casual run. Specially if you decide not to have any mages with you and no Haste spell either.

I bet you could do these battles a lot faster than I did:

Dragon Age - Nightmare Broodmother - No Mages! Posted Image

Dragon Age - Dragonslayer - Nightmare - No Mages Posted Image

And what a difference a Mage and Haste can make:

Dragon Age - Fast Nightmare Dragon Kill Posted Image

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scootermcgaffin wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Wolverfrog wrote...

I fail to see how you could bear to play DA:O for 70+ hours like some people in this thread are saying. Multiple playthroughs, yes, but in one playthrough? The side-quests that weren't personal quests were for the most part terribly dull, and not worth my time.

I got forty hours out of my first playthrough, and thirty out of my second. It was the same with Mass Effect 2.


Well, here's an average run of mine with the time stamps for 82 hours. Fell free to compare to yours.. wait... you don't have any data uploaded *sighs* ... out of curiosity, which difficulty did you play your 40 hrs and your 30hrs run?

http://social.biowar...na_id=214917586

There are actually more ways to enjoy Dragon Age than your way, dude.

I know I said you were the best Dragon Ager ever, but honestly, give it a rest.


I know I've probably used this a bit too much -- once already -- but I feel it may be appropiate..

THERE ARE MORE WAYS TO ENJOY DRAGON AGE THAN HIS WAY?!
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But yeah. I get where you're coming from; stats are good for you, stats are wonderful for you. But not everyone will agree with your opinion; like me, who is steadfastly not into challenge based games that have little story content besides CHALLENGE CHALLENGE HOHO CHALLENGE. I like stories and that's where BioWare games seem to excel at. With Harvester boss, it was shown that they can make boss battles more difficult, as well as the irritating fight before then, so I suppose challenge is a GOOD thing in good dozes, but yeah, it's not everything.

I mean, for someone who likes challenge it's fine; I have no problem with it. But it's not for everyone. It'll be there for those who want it, and for those who go for the story, the game length may be shorter, but the story may be of great quality, which is the most important, imho.

#133
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Once upon a time there was an excellent PC games developers company named Bioware which used to be run by "free thinkers who could care less about corporate priorities". (note that this is how CD Projekt defines themselves in a frame-message-inside-a-video to their fans). They would make great games and of course they must have made money out of it even if the games were crafted masterpieces that costed a lot more to produce than it might if they were produced by a different company submissive to big publishers directives. They even make the best effort to patch their games asap and would only stop it when they were bug free. Then EA happened in their way.

If you think EA will not use the label Bioware that they bought to cover their losses at all costs, I really don't know what to say. I'm as much a fan boy as anyone who loved all Bioware games, with a few that I haven't played like SW's or JE. Like I said, NWN still is a great game and there are people still playing it. Perhaps even buying it. Do you see DA2 surviving 8 years in the market?

Sure, old Bioware guys do take pride in their work, Only they cannot do their work as freely anymore because they have to follow directives and priorities which do not exactly prize crafted masterpieces. They want sales and as much as they can get with as little costs as they must have. Even with one BW designated a top executive of EA, he's not the boss. The bosses are the shareholders and I doubt many of them play video games at all.

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yay!

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RageGT: You already posted that in another thread.

Modifié par dbankier, 25 août 2010 - 07:35 .


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He's too busy recording himself beating Dragon Age: Origins on Nightmare while Blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back to come up with something new to post in every thread.

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RageGT wrote...

Once upon a time there was an excellent PC games developers company named Bioware which used to be run by "free thinkers who could care less about corporate priorities". (note that this is how CD Projekt defines themselves in a frame-message-inside-a-video to their fans). They would make great games and of course they must have made money out of it even if the games were crafted masterpieces that costed a lot more to produce than it might if they were produced by a different company submissive to big publishers directives. They even make the best effort to patch their games asap and would only stop it when they were bug free. Then EA happened in their way.

If you think EA will not use the label Bioware that they bought to cover their losses at all costs, I really don't know what to say. I'm as much a fan boy as anyone who loved all Bioware games, with a few that I haven't played like SW's or JE. Like I said, NWN still is a great game and there are people still playing it. Perhaps even buying it. Do you see DA2 surviving 8 years in the market?

Sure, old Bioware guys do take pride in their work, Only they cannot do their work as freely anymore because they have to follow directives and priorities which do not exactly prize crafted masterpieces. They want sales and as much as they can get with as little costs as they must have. Even with one BW designated a top executive of EA, he's not the boss. The bosses are the shareholders and I doubt many of them play video games at all.




I agree on some points and disagree on others. But to point out the obviousness of how bad this is, look at this in a positive light rather than the negative; EA allows people to continue to make their games as part of their EA Partnership. Indie developers can get their games out through it, and maybe get a start where they haven't gotten it before with EA. EA while having a bad reputation, is not the worst there is. EA will never be the worst there is; they came up from the bottom and are making amends at a slow pace to the gaming community as a whole.

Whereas if BioWare had been bought out by Activision, there would be no BioWare; there would be no DA3 if it did not sell well. They would try to cash**** BioWare with facebook, or twitter, try to tie them in with facebook casual games for the sales, they would ONLY care about the sales. Sales are a decently large part, but not all there is to it with EA. Sales does matter; but it is not the only thing that matters. At least BioWare is being given control over their games. SOE, NCsoft, and Activision are the worst; would you rather SOE get into your game and control it's development by people who aren't developers? 

Would your ather NCsoft nix your game because it did not reach proported sales numbers as normally predicted, and axe a game that had potential, or ruin it wholly? Would you rather have Activision tear down the Gaming Industry itself by striking at one of the premier RPG developers first, then move on elsewhere? I am happy that EA bought out BioWare. If EA had not, Activision or Sega, or another company that only looks at sales or casual gaming market, then this would be a lot worse than it is.

EA is a lesser evil in this case; sure it isn't the best corporation of video game companies that allow art to takes its form. But do not think they are always about SALES SALES SALES CASUAL GAMES SALES because they aren't.

/end rant.

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Rage, I know that you are super proud of the abnormal amount of time you've devoted towards your numerous playthroughs of Origins. No one else really cares about it dude. I know this is a shock for you but some people can be satisfied with one or two playthroughs or even playing a game that lasts less than 80 hours.

Also nice copypasta.

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20-30 hrs? How disapointing. I will still play this though, but I was hopinh for an epic length game again like DOA was, something I can sink my teeth into for the next couple months, through several playthroughs.

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Aw "Mass Effect 2 length", hope thats without side-quests. Oh well.
Altho did like that the article had better PC information this time around which have putt some "fears" to rest. Yay!.

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scootermcgaffin wrote...

He's too busy recording himself beating Dragon Age: Origins on Nightmare while Blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back to come up with something new to post in every thread.


This makes  me giggle.

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It is not about stats. I don't care about your stats. But when you say "I finished in 40hours. I don't understand how can people claim they take 80 or 100 hours". Well, I find that disrespectful. Specially from people who haven't even registered their games, have no data uploaded and can claim anything without showing what for.



And the fact that some people likes the game at its hardest doesn't mean they don't are all for the story as well.



If you think I didn't get your irony the first time you said it, Scooter, you're wrong. But truth is, there are many players that do it a lot better than I do, as far as strategy is concerned. I don't care about that. What I care is about my 1,900 hours with DA as estimated by someone in another thread.



If DA2 cannot deliver that, and I have honest doubts that it can, than it will be a "sequel" that will not match the quality of the first volume, like sequels usually do with a few exception. Pitty, because old Bioware games might have spoiled a lot of people and i/o giving less, they should give, as DG has put it, MOAR!

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Zhijn wrote...

Aw "Mass Effect 2 length", hope thats without side-quests. Oh well.
Altho did like that the article had better PC information this time around which have putt some "fears" to rest. Yay!.


Which fears? I think 1up and Gamesradar had some PC information.

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Finally unique skill trees that make classes themselves less *stiff*!



20-30 hours would be okay if the dungeons in DA2 were not as much as a drag as it was in DAO. Remember that drag in the orphanage in the Alienage, the Fade, and the unimmersive tunnels in the Deeproads? Extended rooms for the sake of making the game longer really breaks the first game for me, especially for replay value.

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RageGT wrote...

What I care is about my 1,900 hours with DA as estimated by someone in another thread.

But you keep talking about them as if we care about them.

We don't.

Mostly we just think it's kind of sad.

edit: but, it doesn't even matter what we think. If you don't think it's going to be a game you'll enjoy, then don't buy it. It is literally that simple.

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RageGT wrote...

I don't care about that. What I care is about my 1,900 hours with DA as estimated by someone in another thread.

If DA2 cannot deliver that, and I have honest doubts that it can, than it will be a "sequel" that will not match the quality of the first volume, like sequels usually do with a few exception. Pitty, because old Bioware games might have spoiled a lot of people and i/o giving less, they should give, as DG has put it, MOAR!


Dude, I can gaurantee you are one of the few people who have spent that much time with Origins. It is unrealistic to expect developers to cater your playstyle.

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scootermcgaffin wrote...

But you keep talking about them as if we care about them.

We don't.

Mostly we just think it's kind of sad.

edit: but, it doesn't even matter what we think. If you don't think it's going to be a game you'll enjoy, then don't buy it. It is literally that simple.


No, I keep talking about them as if I don't care what othes think. As for you "we don't, we just think", did anyone appointed you the "porta-voz" of the community? Do you speak for all of them? Who's "we"?

Dude, oppinion is like ****. Everybody has one.

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I played Dragon Age on Casual. I was playing on the Xbox 360, and found anything above that to be too hectic, since much of the tactical advantages you get on the PC are gone. Besides, I played for the story primarily, which is fantastic. Just because I didn't draw out my game by completing menial side-quests, it doesn't mean I don't love Dragon Age. I read every codex entry, did all the Personal Quests, got everyone's approval into the white bar, agonised over decisions, loved the universe, and finished my second playthrough utterly and totally content that I had gotten the full experience.



I plan to buy Awakening this Friday and import my Warden to it.

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Nice article. The length thing really doesn't bother me that much to be honest. There were a lot of sections in DA:O that I thought were a bit too long such as the Fade and the Deep Roads. Then you have to factor in the Origin stories as well. On top of that, I think that the length of a game varies VASTLY depending on how you play it. So I'm not really concerned.

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Will there be DLC for Dragon Age 2? Absolutely, they’re already talking about two years of DLC content for the game.


Yeah, we've heard it before, and it was a lie.