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[Gibb_Garrus]

the people who dislike samaras attire are



1. Feminists

2. Gay

3. Gay feminists



Nothing wrong with the way she looks.

[brfritos]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...



Showing my age -- lol -- ouch.



I an't that friggeen old

Well, I was browsing Amazon DA:O comments about the game and there's an 80 years old guy that buyed and play the game.



Age is no excuse... LOL

[MrnDvlDg161]

Geez... I'm a shy short under 30 and I get compared to an 80 year old.



Hmmm....



Where's my Sr.Citizen's discount then, I'm sure the Presidium has one.

[KainrycKarr]

Gibb_Garrus wrote...

the people who dislike samaras attire are

1. Feminists
2. Gay
3. Gay feminists

Nothing wrong with the way she looks.

No, no, and no.

I'm straight, love boobies, I just think it looks stupid for a combat situation. Keep the curves, just cover 'em with armor. She can look sexy in armor.

[Spartas Husky]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

All I'm saying is the hard core will find faults but it won't affect the story nor the game's progression in any shape or form.

In ME1, its generlly the Alliance's show --- so the armor part was uniformed like a standing military.

In ME2, your supposed to get a feel for a more  Privateer/Civilian Contract approach.

wait... I understand ME1 was the alliance mostly backing shep. So the off duty clothes were more formal.

But.. are you saying you like miranda with high heels going into a firefight???

[Tuhan]

It's pretty ridiculous how spun-up people are getting about some cleavage in a game rated "M" for mature where you kill over 500 humans, turians, batarians, etc., per play through. If you can't deal with a little sexuality people, buy games rated for children.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Actually if I wanted boobs galore I'd buy a T rated game

M rated I expect blood and lots of it



Now that I think about it I am kind of serious but whatever.



Boobs galore is a marketing tactic to reign in young males from puberty to early twenties



Blood is priceless. Suitable for all ages

[ScotGaymer]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

All I'm seeing in the Alternate Appearance Pack Suggestion Thread is how Samara needs to be "covered up" 
That actually offends me a little... I mean, what, are breasts suddenly so unsightly that they must be covered up at all costs? Yeesh, no wonder ME2's sex scenes were toned down. If Samara's cleavage has offended so many people then Liara's side-boob must've brought these boards to it's knees.

Now, I agree whole-heartedly that Miranda needs Armor, (I myself want her to have the Cerberus Assault Armor in all it's bulky glory!) but what's so wrong with Samara showing some cleavage? 
Samara & Jack can get away with not wearing armor because they're uber biotics.

Personally, I like Samara's default suit, and I think it suits her well. Yes, it shows cleavage, but it's not like anyone has time to stare at it during a firefight. So what's the big deal?

I'm not saying I'd care if she got an Alternate Appearance without cleavage, I'm just wondering why everyone is pushing for it so hard.
Samara just wouldn't look right in armor IMO, even if you're going to cut the cleavage out, at least retain the mystic look of her attire.

Also, to whom it concerns, this was made separate from the Alt Appearance thread to prevent disruption of the topic's purpose. 

Its not so much that people hate her cleavage its more that they dislike the whole "shes an asari so she must have her ****** out" thing.

She is supposed to be a respected Justicar in the MATRIARCH stage of her life. That means if she was human she would be 70/80 years old. Basically your granny.
Do you want to see your granny running about with her jugs out on display?

Its not very good for someone of her supposed background I think its the general thrust of the anti Samara''s boobies on display faction.
The other part of it I think much well be that its rather unrealistic also in most situations the squad finds themselves in; walking out in the vacumn of space or in a highly toxic environment and Samara, Jack, and Miranda all have their tatas out and wearing stupid ass breather masks.

Think about it if it was just outrage about a woman showing skin why isnt there similar outrage over miranda? or jack? or even jacob when he gets semi naked?

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 27 août 2010 - 12:24 .

[vehzeel]

Sexuality isn't the issue at all. Lack of protection is. Why is it Shepard is wearing a full body armour, while about half your team does just fine without one? Why doesn't Shepard just run around in his casual wear? He'd certainly benefit from added mobility.

I'd almost buy the argument about biotic protection fields if she actually had that ability.


EDIT: added the last line

Modifié par vehzeel, 27 août 2010 - 02:01 .

[kalle90]

vehzeel wrote...

Sexuality isn't the issue at all. Lack of protection is. Why is it Shepard is wearing a full body armour, while about half your team does just fine without one? Why doesn't Shepard just run around in his casual wear? He'd certainly benefit from added mobility.

Well you can choose to use or not use helmet in normal situations. Perhaps being able to use some flashy clothes and non-military hairstyles could be available for Shepard too

IMO it's no big deal. Samara is a justicar of different race and she relies on biotic. She's like a jedi. Wearing armor would take away from that "I'm a godly figure" impression she's trying to give. Sure, making the alternate outfits actually different would end this debate immediately: "Do you think justicar should use armor? Make her wear it then. Or do you think she should have something more ceremonial? That's an option too"

Except that in dream situation ME3 would have even more armors and outfits available. 

[MrnDvlDg161]

"wait... I understand ME1 was the alliance mostly backing shep. So the off duty clothes were more formal.



But.. are you saying you like miranda with high heels going into a firefight???"





Those aren't high heels, those are boots --- and how do you know what they are made of, for all you know, their material makes them feel like your average sneaker. See your assuming things worn are the same like in this century due to how they look but... this is the future my friend.



I've seen that style plenty of times concerning space pirates in many Sci-Fi instances, freighter captains, freelancers.



The assumption ends with what the viewer ends up seeing.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I don't really care, nor find it bad. It's not like High School of the Dead level that would get me offended.

[MrnDvlDg161]

Because we can further get technical, what should it matter that Shepard has a pistol trained on Grunt when he first gets out of the tank, he'll still have to pound a few rounds into him before he got his face ripped off.

Furthermore, I like it that enemy combatants die faster during cut scenes then they would when your actully fighting them in the game. How come Shepard can't toss someone around and snap their neck, draw his pistol and shoot two bad guys in the head every time?

How come Thane can assassinate but then he turns into a regular soldier during the game... what happened to taking out 3 armed Mercs with martial arts then using their own weapons on the rest?

Hell --- Jack was tearing open walls and defeated 4 of those giant robot droids... but you never see her do anything like that except for a few cut scenes later... Samara was the same.

I also realize that it seems alot can be accomplished with that Pistol since every character seems to pull it out --- doesn't matter if it was Saren on his floating platform or some other bad guy with heavy shielding...but when you use the pistol in-game... its the least powerful weapon.

Joker is supposed to be Mr. Glass --- but yet he can survive a rough G-force shock wave and walk away with a few grunts..but he had to be carried away on the first Normandy?

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 27 août 2010 - 03:44 .

[MrnDvlDg161]

Its not so much that people hate her cleavage its more that they dislike the whole "shes an asari so she must have her ****** out" thing.

She is supposed to be a respected Justicar in the MATRIARCH stage of her life. That means if she was human she would be 70/80 years old. Basically your granny.
Do you want to see your granny running about with her jugs out on display?

Its not very good for someone of her supposed background I think its the general thrust of the anti Samara''s boobies on display faction.
The other part of it I think much well be that its rather unrealistic also in most situations the squad finds themselves in; walking out in the vacumn of space or in a highly toxic environment and Samara, Jack, and Miranda all have their tatas out and wearing stupid ass breather masks.

Think about it if it was just outrage about a woman showing skin why isnt there similar outrage over miranda? or jack? or even jacob when he gets semi naked?

[/quote]


Yes but when a human being is 80, they aren't going to look like an Asarrii at that age -- thats the point of it all, the darn woman is over 100 or so but she looks  youthful in the eyes of a human.  So the Granny factor is thrown into the void.

The other assumption is this idea of respect/matriarch.  What is accepted in that culture? Seems to me their pretty open about sexuality regardless of what sect they happen to be in.  Again we saw Matriarch Benezia... but her outfit wasn't all that conservative/preistly either. Social norms on earth shall not be the same reflection on other worlds.

Modifié par MrnDvlDg161, 27 août 2010 - 03:55 .

[wickedwizzard01]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

"wait... I understand ME1 was the alliance mostly backing shep. So the off duty clothes were more formal.

But.. are you saying you like miranda with high heels going into a firefight???"


Those aren't high heels, those are boots --- and how do you know what they are made of, for all you know, their material makes them feel like your average sneaker. See your assuming things worn are the same like in this century due to how they look but... this is the future my friend.

I've seen that style plenty of times concerning space pirates in many Sci-Fi instances, freighter captains, freelancers.

The assumption ends with what the viewer ends up seeing.

well they sure look like high heels to me,
ok their boots with,... well..... high heels and i don't care what they feel like
the fact remains that she's running about in a fire fight on high heeled boots. 
unless they automaticly  collapse to sneaker level:sick:
but i haven't seen that happening:huh:

[MrnDvlDg161]

I agree --- but how do you know what they feel like?



How do you know there isn't shock absorbing tech in her foot wear?





The answer is, you don't --- and you can only assume due to the fact of what you know to be high heels and how they work today.

[Siansonea]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Its not so much that people hate her cleavage its more that they dislike the whole "shes an asari so she must have her ****** out" thing.

She is supposed to be a respected Justicar in the MATRIARCH stage of her life. That means if she was human she would be 70/80 years old. Basically your granny.
Do you want to see your granny running about with her jugs out on display?

Its not very good for someone of her supposed background I think its the general thrust of the anti Samara''s boobies on display faction.
The other part of it I think much well be that its rather unrealistic also in most situations the squad finds themselves in; walking out in the vacumn of space or in a highly toxic environment and Samara, Jack, and Miranda all have their tatas out and wearing stupid ass breather masks.

Think about it if it was just outrage about a woman showing skin why isnt there similar outrage over miranda? or jack? or even jacob when he gets semi naked?

Yes but when a human being is 80, they aren't going to look like an Asarrii at that age -- thats the point of it all, the darn woman is over 100 or so but she looks  youthful in the eyes of a human.  So the Granny factor is thrown into the void.

The other assumption is this idea of respect/matriarch.  What is accepted in that culture? Seems to me their pretty open about sexuality regardless of what sect they happen to be in.  Again we saw Matriarch Benezia... but her outfit wasn't all that conservative/preistly either. Social norms on earth shall not be the same reflection on other worlds.

Not to mention that we don't know what significance, if any, cleavage/nudity has among the asari. Their form of 'sex' is primarily neurological, they don't even have to rub each others bodies if they don't want to. From what I can tell, the asari really don't suscribe much importance to nudity at all. Why would nudity mean much of anything among them, when they all have the same body structures? Where's the mystique? Having only one gender puts a whole different complexion on the matter.

But the bottom line is, asari are NOT humans. They do NOT have the same ideas and social mores that humans do. Is anyone even listening? Seriously, it amazes me how difficult it is for some people to place themselves within another person's point of view.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 27 août 2010 - 04:15 .

[wickedwizzard01]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

I agree --- but how do you know what they feel like?

How do you know there isn't shock absorbing tech in her foot wear?


The answer is, you don't --- and you can only assume due to the fact of what you know to be high heels and how they work today.

it does not matter (granted it is an SF story) but i haven't seen any one really running on high heels 
or have you seen them do a 100 meter sprint on high heels at the olympics (at least it would make it more  fun to watch) but  i sure haven't:whistle:
because they can't run on high heels no matter what tech is in the shoe

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 27 août 2010 - 04:18 .

[wickedwizzard01]

how come i suddenly feel like i am Leliana????

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 27 août 2010 - 04:20 .

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Siansonea II wrote...

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Its not so much that people hate her cleavage its more that they dislike the whole "shes an asari so she must have her ****** out" thing.

She is supposed to be a respected Justicar in the MATRIARCH stage of her life. That means if she was human she would be 70/80 years old. Basically your granny.
Do you want to see your granny running about with her jugs out on display?

Its not very good for someone of her supposed background I think its the general thrust of the anti Samara''s boobies on display faction.
The other part of it I think much well be that its rather unrealistic also in most situations the squad finds themselves in; walking out in the vacumn of space or in a highly toxic environment and Samara, Jack, and Miranda all have their tatas out and wearing stupid ass breather masks.

Think about it if it was just outrage about a woman showing skin why isnt there similar outrage over miranda? or jack? or even jacob when he gets semi naked?

Yes but when a human being is 80, they aren't going to look like an Asarrii at that age -- thats the point of it all, the darn woman is over 100 or so but she looks  youthful in the eyes of a human.  So the Granny factor is thrown into the void.

The other assumption is this idea of respect/matriarch.  What is accepted in that culture? Seems to me their pretty open about sexuality regardless of what sect they happen to be in.  Again we saw Matriarch Benezia... but her outfit wasn't all that conservative/preistly either. Social norms on earth shall not be the same reflection on other worlds.

Not to mention that we don't know what significance, if any, cleavage/nudity has among the asari. Their form of 'sex' is primarily neurological, they don't even have to rub each others bodies if they don't want to. From what I can tell, the asari really don't suscribe much importance to nudity at all. Why would nudity mean much of anything among them, when they all have the same body structures? Where's the mystique? Having only one gender puts a whole different complexion on the matter.

But the bottom line is, asari are NOT humans. They do NOT have the same ideas and social mores that humans do. Is anyone even listening? Seriously, it amazes me how difficult it is for some people to place themselves within another person's point of view.

Not only that, but need we revisit how in certain human societies it's perfectly acceptable for a woman of any age to go completely topless? In others, completely nude besides body paint?

Western human ideals of modesty =/= Asari ideals of modesty

[wickedwizzard01]

 oh, i know .... talking about friggin shoes here

wasn't this thread supposed to be about Samara's boobs?

[wickedwizzard01]

 <------- is a little surprised that Fox News hasn't found out about this yet:whistle:

[MrnDvlDg161]

Just making a point that your describing earthly things attributed to a futuristic evolution in humanity. We can come up with 100,000 instances...from the Olympics to platform shoes in a strip club and it still won't make a hill of beans difference because its all hinging on the fact that nothing changed for 200 years...which in this case...lots of things have changed.



Hell even today, foot wear can change drastically just by inserting a different arch support system.

[wickedwizzard01]

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Just making a point that your describing earthly things attributed to a futuristic evolution in humanity. We can come up with 100,000 instances...from the Olympics to platform shoes in a strip club and it still won't make a hill of beans difference because its all hinging on the fact that nothing changed for 200 years...which in this case...lots of things have changed.

Hell even today, foot wear can change drastically just by inserting a different arch support system.

agreed:happy:

[MrnDvlDg161]

A trip to Omega and talking to Aria while 2 Assarii women are dancing side by side in pleather outfits should give most people clues as to how much they give a damn about such things.