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i hate the forced family thing, hated them in origins, it's counter-role-playing, and counter creative, and limiting, and trite, yeah sometimes you can turn your back on them later on, but at the start of a game the last thing i want is to be told how i feel, i haven't even decided if i like the game yet, and i'm suppoed to love some poorly animated poorly scripted random relative who i've never met before? it's asking a lot

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Gimme H wrote...

i hate the forced family thing, hated them in origins, it's counter-role-playing, and counter creative, and limiting, and trite, yeah sometimes you can turn your back on them later on, but at the start of a game the last thing i want is to be told how i feel, i haven't even decided if i like the game yet, and i'm suppoed to love some poorly animated poorly scripted random relative who i've never met before? it's asking a lot


See, now that's a legitament opinion instead of a random hypocracy.  And a personal taste.  Personally, I liekd the family in DAO, except the nephew in the human noble origin.  The kid was a little obnoxious.

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nerdage wrote...

There should be a separate forum for the people who are just bent on hating DA2, and when they're all in it perhaps it could be floated out to sea or something.

I would love it if there was just a "whinging" thread. Not so we know who to avoid or anything, but because it can be hard to keep track of all the hilarious overreactions, so having them all in one place would make it easier.

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obnoxiousgas wrote...

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We get it Kordaris, you don't like DA2. If you're so convinced its going to be a piece of crap... why are you even still here?

 

But I don't want him to leave.  He's so damned entertaining.


He has made petulance into an art form and brought unforseen grace to moaning.


I'm not so sure about grace but his persistance to find something to complain about is an inspiration to us all. :wub:


I can't wait for DA2 to actually hit shelves and Kordaris starts complaining about how much he enjoys the game.

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The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.

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The writers are trying to tell a story. Too much free will marginalizes that. I barely payed attention to plot lines in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3.




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scootermcgaffin wrote...

nerdage wrote...

There should be a separate forum for the people who are just bent on hating DA2, and when they're all in it perhaps it could be floated out to sea or something.

I would love it if there was just a "whinging" thread. Not so we know who to avoid or anything, but because it can be hard to keep track of all the hilarious overreactions, so having them all in one place would make it easier.


I can't remember which board it was but one game company did exactly that. They had two threads, a "hate" thread and a "love" thread. The developers posted in both threads and life went on.

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Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours.


...You ALWAYS agree with your sister? :blink:

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Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.


Uh...yeah, no one in history has ever been betrayed by their siblings and siblings always work together.  And it's so lame that if you play a male warden in DA:O that the whole party is male until you get to Lothering.

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Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.

As opposed to the all-male party you could have in DAO up until Morrigan?

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SelphieSK wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours.


...You ALWAYS agree with your sister? :blink:


Lol, this is exactly what I thought. I'm an adult, and of all the people I am close with and who I share circles with in my life, the one I LEAST often agree with and MOST often fight viciously with is my sister. Hrm.

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That's only in the begining, you can make your player not care about your parents. There are numerous chances for the human noble to say that his parents died because they were weaK, or that the charachter doesn' t care about their deaths.

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RosaAquafire wrote...

SelphieSK wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours.


...You ALWAYS agree with your sister? :blink:


Lol, this is exactly what I thought. I'm an adult, and of all the people I am close with and who I share circles with in my life, the one I LEAST often agree with and MOST often fight viciously with is my sister. Hrm.


I own a couple scars thanks to my sisters. The females in my family have a penchant for grabbing the nearest thing and throwing it at who ever is pissing them off at the moment.

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maxernst wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.


Uh...yeah, no one in history has ever been betrayed by their siblings and siblings always work together.  And it's so lame that if you play a male warden in DA:O that the whole party is male until you get to Lothering.


A disgusting truth about Morrigan revealed!

In the words of a famous admiral... Its a trap!

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Behindyounow wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.


Uh...yeah, no one in history has ever been betrayed by their siblings and siblings always work together.  And it's so lame that if you play a male warden in DA:O that the whole party is male until you get to Lothering.


A disgusting truth about Morrigan revealed!

In the words of a famous admiral... Its a trap!


??? You start actually playing with Morrigan in Lothering.  She's not part of your party at Flemeth's hut or when you get the treaties.

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Yes she is, as soon as the cutscene ends when you leave the hut she's in the party.

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Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours. I'm dusapointed that hawke brother dies and that Templar that means if hawke is female then the whole party is female at start. Very lame tbh.


You've played the game already?  Can you send me your copy after you're done with it?  [/sarcasm]

How do you know for certain that Bethany will remain loyal to you?  Or agree with everything you do?  You do realize that there's a perfect opportunity here where she *could* end up betraying you, or something less extreme, like constantly get on your case for decisions you make that she doesn't agree with?

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addiction21 wrote...

RosaAquafire wrote...

SelphieSK wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...

The problem us that hawke sister is a companion. Having a family member as a party member is so boring because you know she will be loyal and won't betray you and her motivations will be the same as yours.


...You ALWAYS agree with your sister? :blink:


Lol, this is exactly what I thought. I'm an adult, and of all the people I am close with and who I share circles with in my life, the one I LEAST often agree with and MOST often fight viciously with is my sister. Hrm.


I own a couple scars thanks to my sisters. The females in my family have a penchant for grabbing the nearest thing and throwing it at who ever is pissing them off at the moment.


/wonders if this is her little brother in disguise

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Artemis_Entrari wrote...
You've played the game already?  


This line right here sums up why I think all of this ****ing is completely and utterly pointless. Thank you.

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zahra wrote...


/wonders if this is her little brother in disguise


I am the younger brother to my sisters but I have not been the little one in a very long time. Being I am six foot eight inchs tall and the women in my family are around five foot two.

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biomag wrote...

Right, DA 2 is **** because in real life you choose your family too.!

If I wanted real life I wouldn't be playing  role playing games.

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Kordaris wrote...

biomag wrote...

Right, DA 2 is **** because in real life you choose your family too.!

If I wanted real life I wouldn't be playing  role playing games.


People have already pointed out to you how every Origin had people that you were "forced" to care about. We don't even know if we need to be nice to your family, or if Bethany will like you if you treat her like crap.

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Not sure why someone who has allready admitted to having no intentions of getting the game is so worried about the things you can and cannot do with in the game he will not be getting.

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Seeing as Bioware was able to make me care for the Cousland family in so little time, I'm not worried about that.

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Where did they say you are "forced" to love them?