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[Hollingdale]

Erh, from what I've seen I would sadly definitely call Hawke a voiced pre-fab type á ME and hardly a hybrid.

[Nightwriter]

That Hawke has a family is AWESOME.

There's such potential for character depth, character-to-character relationships, familial background, roleplaying, interaction, the nougaty goodness that is at the center of all my favorite RPGs.

It's exciting.

[DarkSpiral]

You people realize you're feeding the troll right? If noone pays any attention to him, he might just go away.

[thegreateski]

DarkSpiral wrote...

You people realize you're feeding the troll right? If noone pays any attention to him, he might just go away.

Of course we do. But Kordaris is just so FUZZY WUZZY ADORABLE that we have to feed him.

Modifié par thegreateski, 25 août 2010 - 10:28 .

[Eollodwyn]

thegreateski wrote...

DarkSpiral wrote...

You people realize you're feeding the troll right? If noone pays any attention to him, he might just go away.

Of course we do. But Kordaris is just so FUZZY WUZZY ADORABLE that we have to feed him.

It's true.  I can barely restrain myself from giving him a big huggie-wuggie.

[Nightwriter]

Besides, it's far too late, a dev has posted in this thread, it's now a hotspot.

[Hollingdale]

thegreateski wrote...

DarkSpiral wrote...

You people realize you're feeding the troll right? If noone pays any attention to him, he might just go away.

Of course we do. But Kordaris is just so FUZZY WUZZY ADORABLE that we have to feed him.

They say opposites attract, but in cases (such as this one) similarities may obviously also cause mutual attractions.

Let's just hope the two trolls don't breed for I would rather see their bloodlines ended.

[Trooper Guy1]

David Gaider wrote...

I'm not sure why I'd even bother posting this but:

You're not forced to love your family. That said, they are your family and we aren't providing you the option to just go "pfft, whatever, you're on your own." -- just as you couldn't decide you didn't want to be a Grey Warden and, say, run off to Antiva. We also don't let you play a psychotic sociopath or any number of other things-- including an elf, this time anyhow. Them's the breaks.

W...what? I can't be a psychotic sociopath?

Curse you Gaider! Curse you! -shakes fist in the air with furious anger-

[DPSSOC]

To the OP can you give me an example of a game that doesn't force some kind of past on you that could be considered on par with Dragon Age.

[Artemis_Entrari]

DarkSpiral wrote...

You people realize you're feeding the troll right? If noone pays any attention to him, he might just go away.

A better hope is his parents ground him and take away this month's allowance.

[maxernst]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

What? You wouldn't be suprised if the nice old man who saved your arse suddenly stabbed one of his recruits?

Depends on the character.

And regardless, how surprised we are need not have anything to do with how surprised we look.

The fact that my PC responded to practically everything in the game with the facial expression of an Easter Island stone head was more disturbing than that.  That's one thing about first person games--you don't see your own expression.  I still think it's a shame they couldn't give us a few different voice actors to choose from.  I realize it would cost more money, but they managed to voice the whole freaking codex in mass effect. 

[Lomopingseph]

I think giving PCs a family often brings out a more human side of them, instead of constantly being the unstoppable killing machine they usually are. I'm not sure what you find so disgusting and unacceptable about it.

[DarkSpiral]

Nightwriter wrote...

Besides, it's far too late, a dev has posted in this thread, it's now a hotspot.

A fair point.  It's why I took a look.

[Vaeliorin]

AlanC9 wrote...
I've never been 100% convinced that the Spellhold sequence works if your character doens't care about Imoen at all, but since I've never played such a character I'm not really qualified to discuss the point.

It doesn't.  My initial reaction to Imoen being taken?  "Good riddance, you annoying little twit!"

Of course, using the BG1NPC Project mod has caused me to become somewhat fond of her.

[Tinxa]

I like that the PC has a family and is grounded in the world rather than being some orphan with no past. And you're not forced to like them, there were always mean options to pick when talking to family in origins and since they're your family it makes sense they still hang around you. It's worse when you get a best friend like Jowan and all your PC does is insult him so you wonder "Why is he friends with someone rude to him again?"

[Sylvius the Mad]

Hollingdale wrote...

Erh, from what I've seen I would sadly definitely call Hawke a voiced pre-fab type á ME and hardly a hybrid.

That they're not choosing our personality for us is, I think, a huge step back from the precipice.

[Bryy_Miller]

Kordaris wrote...
Funny how quality can change from a perspective of one person to another.

This is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet concerning any product ever.

No **** the usefulness of a product is going to be different for everybody.

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

But for some odd reason, you actually believe you are being constructive when you say ludicrously overblown things like this. You'll probably even buy Dragon Age 2.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Tinxa wrote...

I like that the PC has a family and is grounded in the world rather than being some orphan with no past. And you're not forced to like them, there were always mean options to pick when talking to family in origins and since they're your family it makes sense they still hang around you. It's worse when you get a best friend like Jowan and all your PC does is insult him so you wonder "Why is he friends with someone rude to him again?"

With Jowan, that's easy.  He's a pathetic loser who thinks he's friends with the cool kid, but he's not.  But as long as he can keep deluding himself he doesn't have to cry.

Jowan was so emo it hurt.

[Bobad]

Wow for a load of auld hairy bollocks this thread grew quite a bit in only 7 hours

[Marionetten]

David Gaider wrote...

We also don't let you play a psychotic sociopath or any number of other things-- including an elf, this time anyhow.

So Hawke is a more restricting character than the Warden as the Warden could be a psychotic elf. Hell, the alienage origin pretty much catered to that exact persona. Instead of focusing on giving the player more freedom you're taking it away for the sake cinematic presentation. Is this really the new direction for the Dragon Age franchise? If so, I can't say I'm too excited about it.

AlanC9 wrote...

I've never been 100% convinced that the Spellhold sequence works if your character doens't care about Imoen at all, but since I've never played such a character I'm not really qualified to discuss the point.

I have and it works as you care more about Irenicus and his motives than you care about rescuing Imoen. Basically, he's the guy capable of unlocking your powers so you decide to seek him out. Imoen is just a bargaining chip.

I've never had any issues playing a deranged character in any BioWare game to date. Not even Mass Effect.

Tinxa wrote...

It's worse when you get a best friend like Jowan and all your PC does is insult him so you wonder "Why is he friends with someone rude to him again?"

Not really. Jowan is more of an admirerer than a genuine friend. He sees you as the ideal mage and you're the whole reason as to why he dabbles in blood magic to begin with.

Modifié par Marionetten, 26 août 2010 - 12:13 .

[Saibh]

Marionetten wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

We also don't let you play a psychotic sociopath or any number of other things-- including an elf, this time anyhow.

So Hawke is a more restricting character than the Warden as the Warden could be a psychotic elf. Hell, the alienage origin pretty much catered to that exact persona. Instead of focusing on giving the player more freedom you're taking it away for the sake cinematic presentation. Is this really the new direction for the Dragon Age franchise? If so, I can't say I'm too excited about it.

I honestly thought you were trolling at first, but then you were serious. And I was like...

The Warden could not be a complete psychopath. Abandoning Shianni for money is not a complete psychopath. It's an evil greedy bastard thing to do, but well within sanity limits. There are also justifiable reasons for doing so--like Vaughn says, you'd only cause more problems with your people for killing him. Personally, that particular Origin always bugs me since you can't say "Nope, I'm taking Shianni, you keep your gold, and you'd better let us go if you want to live". If Vaughn really was that stupid, he could have attacked you and you could have killed him anyway...but...I digress.

Everything I've read about DA2 suggests you're allowed to be vicious in your rise--not evil, but somewhere along the Warden's lines. In the end, you saved Ferelden, you stopped the Blight. You didn't just run off to Orlais in live in sin.

I've never had any issues playing a deranged character in any BioWare game to date. Not even Mass Effect.

I disagree. You cannot be evil and psychotic in Mass Effect. You are a Renegade--a hero with a flexible moral code, but ultimately a hero out to save people. You take a "kill a hundred to save a million" approach, every time, all the time. Even Renegade Shep thinks it's mean to pick on Conrad Verner.

Modifié par Saibh, 26 août 2010 - 12:16 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Mass Effect is awesome because you don't have a family forced on you



They are overrated, I say we kill them all

[Collider]

There's always going to be something in the game that the player can't do or can't be.

I disagree. You cannot be evil and psychotic in Mass Effect. You are a Renegade--a hero with a flexible moral code, but ultimately a hero out to save people. You take a "kill a hundred to save a million" approach, every time, all the time. Even Renegade Shep thinks it's mean to pick on Conrad Verner.

Renegade Shepard is a bit of an anti-hero to me.

[Saibh]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Mass Effect is awesome because you don't have a family forced on you

They are overrated, I say we kill them all

You had Helen Shepard. You might have only spoken to her once, but you are an adult with a career in the future, where extranet communication is possible. You're at least supposed to care about your mom.

Also, as previously mentioned, DAO had families and people you were supposed to care about in every Origin, excluding perhaps the Mage Origin. Did you hate that game?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Saibh wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Mass Effect is awesome because you don't have a family forced on you

They are overrated, I say we kill them all

You had Helen Shepard. You might have only spoken to her once, but you are an adult with a career in the future, where extranet communication is possible. You're at least supposed to care about your mom.

Also, as previously mentioned, DAO had families and people you were supposed to care about in every Origin, excluding perhaps the Mage Origin. Did you hate that game?

Is this a trick question