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[Alyka]

I'm looking forward to playing this and finding out what secrets Morrigan has been hiding.It's about time we get some answers. Thanks DA/BW team! :happy:

Modifié par Alyka, 26 août 2010 - 03:14 .

[Jakeul200493]

I can't wait to play this, I could really do with finding out what happened to Morrigan

[CarlSpackler]

So would one of you kindly devs like to give an estimate on gameplay length? As it is DLC and priced around $7 its not going to be anything nearly as sprawling as Awakening. It would however be nice to know about what type of adventure length-wise we're in for.

[Quercus]

I have the feeling that this DLC is even more popular then Awakening.

It pretty much answers everyone's over curious question "what happened with Morrigan?".

And this also sounds like the best fitting end to the Origins story, good choice Bioware. And good marketing trick EA.

[BrunoB1971]

Menown wrote...

Ahem, "2 years of DLC"? Not happening is it? You want everyone who you mislead to go out and buy DA:O2 don't you? You are going to end the DLC a year early so you rush out an "Ultimate Edition" to cash in one last time on DA:O before DA:O2 comes out aren't you?

So how does this is going to make the fans feel?

(checks this thread) HAPPY?!?! WTF!?!?

What is wrong with everyone? 2 years of DLC, "..broad long term support plan for the game."

You don't feel mislead? You feel happy? oh BioWare you are so awesome, we love you BioWare blah blah. Are you kidding me?

It's no wonder game companies are getting away with more and more BS these days.

I love DA:O, I was looking forward to two years of DLC. I'm even going to buy this one, because the ending this DLC is about is the best RPG storyline ever written IMO, but I'm not getting DA:O2 or Mass Effect 2, or anything else BioWare put out.

This has ended my relationship with BioWare after many years and many great games. Thanks for the memories guys. Adios.

same felling i have as expressed in a post a little bit earlier than yours.

But maybe they will release an expansion but highly unlikely because of DA2's resource requirements but then again it seems that Bioware likes Cash now more than ever and they have pumped out a lot of dlc's since release ( well more than some other companies, which is good) and to make an expansion would mean re-using assets that are already made so the only cost would be the voice acting part...really...

So i am 50/50  Bioware drops dlc's in favor of DA2 but since they like to make money ( probably because of EA ) , i am inclined to say that they will release an expansion before march of next year.

there is no way in hell that they will let 6 months + slip by without trying to milk the cow again....

my 2 cents!

[Vim]

This DLC really -should- have been an expansion at a minimum, and possibly even the subject matter for DA 2. If Bioware cuts as many corners for this as they did for the other DLC's then I'm going to be highly disappointed.

[GregorLightbringer]

Golden-Rose wrote...

I wonder how the ring will be incorporated into this DLC.. If at all.

Speaking of rings, I wonder how the heck she let's you find her if that ring Morrigan gives you allows her to "sense" where you are? I haven't read all the posts so I have no idea if it's been brought up.

[macrocarl]

I think a DLC is fine. An expansion means more stuff for Origins (like the new convo system in DOA etc.) but just cause it's DLC doesn't mean it'll be weak sauce........ I don't care how long it is either so long as it's long enough!

[Ulicus]

I'm most curious as to why Morrigan's back in Ferelden so *soon*. I'm sure there'll be a reason, but I figured it'd at least be years, plural, before she showed up. Intriguing.

As for whether or not this should have been an expansion ehhhhh... I'll wait to play it before I decide what I think about that. I'm hoping it's story/dialogue/character heavy, though, since my Warden -- max level as he is -- isn't going to be gaining anything from the combat at all. Well, besides weapons and items or whatnot....

Modifié par Ulicus, 26 août 2010 - 03:41 .

[CarlSpackler]

BrunoB1971 wrote...

Menown wrote...

Ahem, "2 years of DLC"? Not happening is it? You want everyone who you mislead to go out and buy DA:O2 don't you? You are going to end the DLC a year early so you rush out an "Ultimate Edition" to cash in one last time on DA:O before DA:O2 comes out aren't you?

So how does this is going to make the fans feel?

(checks this thread) HAPPY?!?! WTF!?!?

What is wrong with everyone? 2 years of DLC, "..broad long term support plan for the game."

You don't feel mislead? You feel happy? oh BioWare you are so awesome, we love you BioWare blah blah. Are you kidding me?

It's no wonder game companies are getting away with more and more BS these days.

I love DA:O, I was looking forward to two years of DLC. I'm even going to buy this one, because the ending this DLC is about is the best RPG storyline ever written IMO, but I'm not getting DA:O2 or Mass Effect 2, or anything else BioWare put out.

This has ended my relationship with BioWare after many years and many great games. Thanks for the memories guys. Adios.

same felling i have as expressed in a post a little bit earlier than yours.

But maybe they will release an expansion but highly unlikely because of DA2's resource requirements but then again it seems that Bioware likes Cash now more than ever and they have pumped out a lot of dlc's since release ( well more than some other companies, which is good) and to make an expansion would mean re-using assets that are already made so the only cost would be the voice acting part...really...

So i am 50/50  Bioware drops dlc's in favor of DA2 but since they like to make money ( probably because of EA ) , i am inclined to say that they will release an expansion before march of next year.

there is no way in hell that they will let 6 months + slip by without trying to milk the cow again....

my 2 cents!

I guess I would feel the same way as you two if I had purchased DAO with one of the prime reasons being the DLC.  For me though, I have yet to purchase a DLC that didn't come with my game.  (Unless you count Awakening, which is an expansion not a DLC -and no I'm not interesting in arguing over the term expansion.)  My purchase was predicated on my belief DAO would be a good game sans DLC.  For me I was right - $50 justified.  None of the DLC has looked very apealing to me (except Warden's keep, which I may try at some point.)  Until now.  I see this as a continuation/resolution to an unresolved plot thread.  So yes I plan on purchasing this one and am happy that they are releasing it.

As for being disapointed that the DLC plan for DAO is being terminated - I can't say I'm disapointed by that either.  Most of the reviews/descriptions of the DLCs say heavy on combat -low on story.  Not my cup of tea but more power to the folks who enjoy that.  I didn't purchase Leliana's song (which I heard was good btw) because I really was only interested in DLC for my warden.  So if they are dropping DLC to focus on DA2 which will be far more content rich than any peice of DLC, well I must say I only see that as a positive thing.

As for being lied to about the 2yr thing, well you may have a point, but after playing video games for over 20yrs now I don't believe anything that any game company says until the product has gone gold. 

[Quercus]

Vim wrote...


This DLC really -should- have been an expansion at a minimum, and possibly even the subject matter for DA 2. If Bioware cuts as many corners for this as they did for the other DLC's then I'm going to be highly disappointed.

It can still acure in DA2, this DLC is placed between 1 and 2 years after Hawke's escape from Lothering.

[Theagg]

Gerudan wrote...

Theagg wrote...

Cautiously optimistic.

However, I would have expected this tale to be fit for a chunky expansion rather than a 2 hour DLC. Not least because of dialogue.

This particular chapter should be one that is dialogue heavy, given the relationship with the Warden etc. Yet DLC's to date have been notoriously "dialogue lite"

We shall see.

In the end Morrigan won't say a word, because they couldn't get Claudia to reprise her role. 

On this you may well be right..either way, the fact it is a DLC and not an expansion means the dialogue will be most likely be sparse. Which will be a let down.

[AloraKast]

thenemesis77 wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Well, I was happy about WHAT the dlc is, but once I saw that it's the final one, I have lost all urge to play DA anymore. You'd think they'd want to keep us in the DA universe. So for those of us who are sort of on the fence about DA2, we are gonna move onto other games, which may mean I am going to spend my money elsewhere before I spend it on DA2 next year. Wow you should have at least waited to release this until closer to DA2's release, imo of course.

I agree, I'am  greatful for what they are giving us but not for what they are going to take way.  I also know that this will my last ride.........it's sad, but I can't see myself as playing Hawke, I just can't. I have tried to look at what might be good about it but this is the end of what is good about DA, the fallway of good characters. I love the Warden and so as it is his end it will be mine aswell, thanks for letting me be apart of it, it was fun while it lasted.  The Warden forever, Thank you  to our great Grey Warden.  I know DA is about  the Land but I  loved the charcters, could have cared less about the land. Thanks for the ride.

*sigh* I have to say that this is how I'm feeling; after processing the revelation that this is the end for Origins. I'm finding it incredibly difficult to go back and enjoy DA... and the task of facing a brand new adventure with a brand new character in the world I have come to love is seeming even more impossible. Knowing that I won't see my old companions, never again have the family back together for yet another amazing adventure...

Like thenemesis wrote above, I just love the characters sooo much... to know that this is the end, for all of us... it just saps my will to continue to linger in this world of DA. The overwhelming sentiments evoked by the following quote seem frighteningly appropriate... and it captures my feelings perfectly:

He will come to death. An image of the splendor of the kings of men in glory, undimmed before the breaking of the world. But you, my daughter, you will linger on in darkness and in doubt. As night falling winter has come without a star. Here you will dwell, bound to you grief, under the fading trees, until all the world has changed and the long years of your life are utterly spent.

… there is nothing for you here, only death.

*sigh* Please know that this is not me saying "Well BioWare, if you are forsaking this treasured adventure filled with my beloved characters and jumping on the next best shinier thing band wagon, cutting the story short, when there is still so much life left in it... Well, fine then, you can stick DA2 where the sun don't shine and FU!". Rather it is the result of tremendous mourning, of raging against this drastic turn of events that go against my love for DA:O to the extreme... of me attempting to protect that which I love...

... although I do believe that there is still so much story to be told in the DA:O universe, so much potential. And that is what escapes my grasp; when there is a demand and so much love for more adventure with the Warden and his/her companions, why forsake it?

[BeastMTL]

Well I'm glad the Morrigan lovers get their time in the sun, but am a bit disappointed Bio is ending it there. But that's their choice.
Now as long as I can put Morrigan and baby into a tree shredder I'll be happy

[Ayanko]

Soo, I'm guessing this will explain why are Wardens Vanish?
There either dead, or filling in the Daddy role protecting morrigan and child from flemeth. I've actually got a feeling there's going to be two kiddywinks.
Blah, for those who married Anora. Pray to the Maker that she doesn't find out.
And those who wasn't paying attention you're hound is a companion.

Modifié par Ayanko, 26 août 2010 - 04:02 .

[Stormghost]

I'm almost tempted to buy this. Would rather have had a full expansion than a DLC though. Seems they're just cashing in on fans' eagerness to find out what happened to Morrigan next.

[Phonantiphon]

Shiroukai wrote...

I have the feeling that this DLC is even more popular then Awakening.

Although you wouldn't know it to read some of the posts on here.

[JamieCOTC]

As far as the 2 years worth of DLC, let's just call it even and say that BW "misspoke" and the fact that it was mentioned on forums, interviews, etc, was simply an "unforseeable and unintentional misrepresentation of the DLC planning strategy."  It happens.

As far as the end of the Warden, it had to come some day.  It's just a little sooner than expected.  She'll go off into the eternal ether to join the Bhaalspawn, Revan, the Exile, the Knight Captain, the Champion of Cyrodiil, the Lone Wanderer, the Spirit Monk and so many others.  And in a couple of years, she will be joined by Commander Shepard.  Tis sad.  All good things and all that.

As for the Witch Hunt DLC itself, I am very excited about it.  I expect it will give Morrigan the best treatement it can in a DLC. More so, I hope this provides a proper send off to the Warden's character, something that was sorely lacking in Awakening. 

[Theagg]

Given this thread effectively announces the end of the Origins tale, and with it by implication, the end of the Wardens, its interesting to note the sentiment this game has given rise to and how it has polarised gamers.

There are, on the one hand the Hawke shippers, whose rhetoric can be summed up as "get over it and move on"

And there are the Warden shippers whose cry is "we was robbed"

Perhaps the latter were not robbed ( of more adventures ) but the Hawke camps dictat is also perhaps too simplistic and lacking understanding as well.

For the attachment expressed by those who feel that Bioware have not quite played fair when it comes to giving them more for their Warden is actually a testament to the first games success. Perhaps a level of success Bioware hadn't initally expected.

Its a success for one simple reason that the first game set out to make the game an emotional experience in a way that other games previously lacked. And some players felt that worked for them, at a level not expected. It did become very personal and hence the great attachment to their character.

More games should strive to be succesful in that way in my opinion the emotional quality as important to the game as the spells one can throw around etc. And game designers should actually think about what that emotional investment means to players and thus how to keep them on board in subsequent games. Given the ( unexpected ? ) success in that department for DA:O and Awakenings, the rather open ended nature of those games perhaps then it is only fair that this level of response and sentiment is being expressed and this is why its perhaps fair to say the designers have in one way, missed the point too

[BrunoB1971]

you can be all emotional if you want but "kinda" misleading the fans about your product is not without consequences...



A lot of people will just plain say (censored) Bioware! i am not giving them anymore of my money because:



A: The lack of proper support for the game..it has been a saga all unto itself!



B: Cutting off the original "2 years" worth of dlc's.





Consequences? well without using the P word some people might just go that way because they are so ticked off at Bioware and get their product for free just to vindicate themselves....

[Gaddmeister]

JamieCOTC wrote...

As far as the 2 years worth of DLC, let's just call it even and say that BW "misspoke" and the fact that it was mentioned on forums, interviews, etc, was simply an "unforseeable and unintentional misrepresentation of the DLC planning strategy."  It happens.

Well, they're actually addressing the issue in this very thread, so we don't really have to guess. Just go to the News and Announcements forum and click on the Bioware logo below this thread to read the Bioware responses.

[The Hardest Thing In The World]

The DLC's from Darkspwan onwards was nothing to shout about and added nothing to the game to be fair. So if this is the last DLC and it's well made, I'll be happy and wait for DA2.

[starwarschewy]

Will get it first day as soon as it is released bioware you guys are the best

[Addai]

Theagg wrote...

More games should strive to be succesful in that way in my opinion the emotional quality as important to the game as the spells one can throw around etc. And game designers should actually think about what that emotional investment means to players and thus how to keep them on board in subsequent games. Given the ( unexpected ? ) success in that department for DA:O and Awakenings, the rather open ended nature of those games perhaps then it is only fair that this level of response and sentiment is being expressed and this is why its perhaps fair to say the designers have in one way, missed the point too

Exactly.  Rather than cashing in on the actual strengths of DAO, it seems that these are being neglected/ downgraded/ dismissed and we're just expected to love it because it has DA on it.  Lots of missed opportunities, I think.  I don't have high expectations for the Morrigan DLC, either, based on what we've seen so far, but I'm hoping that I'm wrong.

Maybe someone thinks it's a good idea to leave your hardcore fans feeling exploited/ sidelined/ cheated because of all the new players you want to draw in.  My husband compared it to ditching the girl you came to the dance with.  I guess we're the suckers, since we're still putting out even after all the weak punch.

Does not increase my expectation for DA2.