How can she be a man and still have a kid? Oh wait magic...oh course, I'm so blind!notadisplayname wrote...
If you romanced Morrigan, she turns out to be a man.
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#2101
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 10:47
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#2102
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 10:51
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Lord Gremlin wrote...
It was revealed by mistake, I believe, Gaider wanted it a full surprise - they all go on about "you won't be disappointed"...
Where was it revealed? Just in the ustream chat? Ugh....Gaider's writer borne cruelty knows no bounds. This is the guy that gives Viconia a happy ending only to unceremoniously kill her off in the epilogue.
I hope they're just screwing with us, cause if WItch Hunt's ending is like what Gamespot said or worse, I'll have had it. Seriously.
#2103
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 10:59
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I would indeed cry.notadisplayname wrote...
If you romanced Morrigan, she turns out to be a man.
I'd also like to note that I spent about 30 minutes looking for the Gamespot review, before I realized I was typing in Gamestop. *sigh* I ended up not reading it anyways, because spoiling it would just end up ruining my day. Hope Mr.Gaider decides to be nice and give us a somewhat happy ending. Fingers crossed- I know you won't dissapoint me Bioware!
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Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:02
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bloodreaperfx wrote...
finnugold wrote...
Cry me a friggen river. Did I get to keep my hero from Daggerfall? Or Morrowind? Or Oblivion? Or Fallout? Or Fallout 2?
The reality is that most games are like this, and you can't bash a company just because you're overattatched to a character.
Not that I dont agree with your post in some part but Morrowind and Obivion's characters where forgetable in the most extreme meaning of the word.
At least the warden has traces of normal human (err..elfish,dwarfish) personality.
Another thing to add to this whole point:
Bethesda relies on a closed, heavily restricted and linear plot line for each of their Elder Scrolls games, despite being an RPG series. The ONE time they attempted multiple plot paths and endings was Daggerfall, and realizing they dug themselves into a hole with the diverging paths when creating Morrowind, they just slapped on an interdementional time-rift that they famously call "The Warp In The West," where everything happened and yet didn't happen. It is because of this linear plotline that it really doesn't matter to the Elder Scrolls that we play different characters each time.
Another thing, Bethesda has not relied on imports between sequels. In face barely any game company does. The first time I ever saw an import ability was in the game franchise "The Suffering." You could import decisions and actions made in the first game to "The Suffering: Ties That Bind" and have characters react to you based on what choices you made.
Nowadays, Bioware has started with imports in their games. Starting with Mass Effect 2, we no longer have to worry about canon as much and our characters as a result have a much more lasting, meaningful impact in the game series than we could have hoped for 5 or 10 years ago.
Because of this, people now EXPECT Bioware to have a longer-lasting legacy for our characters than in previous games. And when Bioware fails to do that (as we have seen with the Awakening incorrect importing for dead wardens and what we fear of "Witch Hunt"), then I hope you understand, finnugold, why most of us feel our new expectations, based on newly used and proven advances in technology with importing, have not been met.
#2105
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:02
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Gamespot didn't spoil too much. What they revealed is that you will choose how DLC ends (no info on what options you'll have) and that Morrigan avoids direct answers to your questions.
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#2106
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:13
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PureMethodActor wrote...
Nowadays, Bioware has started with imports in their games. Starting with Mass Effect 2, we no longer have to worry about canon as much and our characters as a result have a much more lasting, meaningful impact in the game series than we could have hoped for 5 or 10 years ago.
It goes waaaay beyond that. People think ME2 was the first import save game for BioWare. Thats not right at all. BG2 and Throne of Bhaal allowed you to import your characters and save game well before ME2. Now with BG1 to BG2 they basically canonized certain choices, but from BG2 to Throne of Bhaal, they kept the same party and picked up right where BG2 left off with love interests and all.
Again, my hope that the Warden might have returned for one more sequel was in the fact that DA was supposed to be the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, which retained continuity of characters between the games. And the fact that the DR is a fantastic choice and consequence type event that just begs for a sequel in which the Warden dealswith those consequences. Sadly, it seems DA is taking a more Neverwinter Nights approach to continuity where every game is a new story with new PC and limited continuity.PureMethodActor wrote...
Because of this, people now EXPECT Bioware to have a longer-lasting legacy for our characters than in previous games. And when Bioware fails to do that (as we have seen with the Awakening incorrect importing for dead wardens and what we fear of "Witch Hunt"), then I hope you understand, finnugold, why most of us feel our new expectations, based on newly used and proven advances in technology with importing, have not been met.
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#2107
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:17
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boltonsquanderer if you did not enjoy Mass Effect 1 or 2 how are you going to enjoy DA2? When it's pretty clear that is the EXACT direction in which they have moved DA2.
#2108
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:24
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I WANT MORRIGAN TO RUN OFF WITH ME 
#2109
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:52
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MorrigansLove wrote...
I WANT MORRIGAN TO RUN OFF WITH ME
I WANT YOU TO TURN YOUR CAPS LOCK OFF!
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Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:52
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Brockololly wrote...
PureMethodActor wrote...
Nowadays, Bioware has started with imports in their games. Starting with Mass Effect 2, we no longer have to worry about canon as much and our characters as a result have a much more lasting, meaningful impact in the game series than we could have hoped for 5 or 10 years ago.
It goes waaaay beyond that. People think ME2 was the first import save game for BioWare. Thats not right at all. BG2 and Throne of Bhaal allowed you to import your characters and save game well before ME2. Now with BG1 to BG2 they basically canonized certain choices, but from BG2 to Throne of Bhaal, they kept the same party and picked up right where BG2 left off with love interests and all.
My apologies. I was a KOTOR upstart, so I never played the Baldurs Gate games or Neverwinter Nights, so I had no idea they had this feature before. I remember playing Neverwinter Nights II one day at my cousins' place, but yeah, that was Obsidian, right? So doesn't count for my point.
I figure I would have played those games when I first heard of them had other games of interest to me not periodically come out.
#2111
Posté 05 septembre 2010 - 11:59
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While BG2 may be rough in the graphics, if you can get past the tiny characters, the environments still look nice and more importantly its got an amazing story and dialogue. Highly recommend it and the expansion Throne of Bhaal- they're BioWare's best work IMO.
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#2112
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:00
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From what Gamespot reviwed about the upcoming DLC.... It looks awful. But something is telling me they didn't said everything, or maybe everything wasn't shown to them, or even maybe they are rigth and Bioware must be completely terminated.
#2113
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:17
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How right or wrong Gamespot was with respect to Witch Hunt, we'll at least find out soon enough.
#2114
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:19
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David Gaider did not answer one question, not even allude to Witch Hunt in his live QA. What do you make of it? Bad sign? I can't believe they don't pay attention to this thread given the amount of people who are into the whole Morrigan romance closure thing.
#2115
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:21
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"Tis cold in my hut all alone..."
Do you think King Maric is Morrigan's father? lol
Do you think King Maric is Morrigan's father? lol
#2116
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:24
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They know the Morrigan romance fans are out there. Its just a matter of how cruel the writers feel in making us squirm. I'm hopeful that they won't come down hard with yet another Plot Hammer Dark Ritual style ending for the Warden romancing Morrigan. Laidlaw and Gaider have both said not to worry. Laidlaw has said that he doesn't think Morrigan fans will be disappointed with whats in store. They seem like decent enough people. For the time being, I'll take their word and assurances over the crummy "journalism" of Gamespot.
I sure hope that Laidlaw is right and we don't just end up paying $7 to BioWare for another kick in the balls ending with Morrigan.
I sure hope that Laidlaw is right and we don't just end up paying $7 to BioWare for another kick in the balls ending with Morrigan.
#2117
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:29
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"Tis cold in my hut all alone..."
Do you think King Maric is Morrigan's father? lol
Its possible, I think that Flemeth and Maric from the Stolen Throne could have given rise to Morrigan. The timeline is about right I think that The Stolen Throne was about 30 years prior to Origins. So, yeah....
#2119
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:32
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Maybe it was one of Flemeth's daughters that bore Morrigan, and Maric was the father? Flemeth maybe possessed her daughter after she gave birth.Brockololly wrote...
UberDuber wrote...
"Tis cold in my hut all alone..."
Do you think King Maric is Morrigan's father? lol
Its possible, I think that Flemeth and Maric from the Stolen Throne could have given rise to Morrigan. The timeline is about right I think that The Stolen Throne was about 30 years prior to Origins. So, yeah....
I thought Flemeth's plan was to get Morrigan to conceive a child, then take over her body. Except this child happens to be an old god!
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#2120
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:36
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Brockololly wrote...
I sure hope that Laidlaw is right and we don't just end up paying $7 to BioWare for another kick in the balls ending with Morrigan.
Amen to that. Fingers crossed. But based on the Gamespot description of the conclusion, it seems pretty clear to me what's going to happen again. We'll find out soon enough.
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Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:36
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The whole problem with the theory that Flemeth wants to possess the Old God Baby is that I always thought the soul is what made the OGB special. So I always thought Flemeth's body snatching would negate the soul- unless she can somehow absorb the soul of the person she is snatching.
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#2122
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 12:40
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Brockololly wrote...
The whole problem with the theory that Flemeth wants to possess the Old God Baby is that I always thought the soul is what made the OGB special. So I always thought Flemeth's body snatching would negate the soul- unless she can somehow absorb the should of the person she is snatching.
See this is what annoys me, we never get anwsers to these questions, and probably never will.
#2123
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 01:21
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Wait, did Mr. Gaider not make the comment about an evil surprise or whatever in the interview? When was it made? Before the leaks?
#2124
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 01:28
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What did Gaider say about Witch Hunt... Anybody?
#2125
Posté 06 septembre 2010 - 01:33
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I haven't heard a thing. Missed some of the questions, though. Someone might enlighten us.
