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aka.seim wrote...

So we're back to the beginning..... I cannot understand why is so difficult that someone from Bioware come here and explain it so we don't turn over and over again with this....

IT'S NOT SO HARD....


You're right, it's extremely easy.

If you imported your dead warden into Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, what that does is change the ending. The Warden save file should now read that either he (or Alistair) participated in the Dark Ritual. Do you understand this part? If your Warden loved Morrigan, he will still love her in Witch Hunt. If your Warden hated her, he will still hate her in Witch Hunt.

If you played an Orlesian Warden for Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, there will be no pre-supposed relationship because they will have never met. Do you understand this? A PC does not have to have had a prior relationship with Morrigan to play this DLC.

I'm not sure why you're struggling with this concept.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 07 septembre 2010 - 12:55 .


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aka.seim wrote...

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Because it's not the Orlesian Warden. Gaider has confirmed that if you import a dead warden, you took back the sacrifice decision. Its the same warden.


So we're back to the beginning..... I cannot understand why is so difficult that someone from Bioware come here and explain it so we don't turn over and over again with this....

IT'S NOT SO HARD....

So this will be the same that was on Awakening. They are not going to tell anything, and screw us...

I don't know why I bother.... Really I don't know why if they are not going to answer any way.


Um, I don't know what kind of an answer you are looking for, because Adrian just told you what a dev answered with.


I really do want that people read before answer, because I have explained it already 3 or 4 times...
I want to know what I have to do to play the Wich Hunt DLC with the option: no Ritual and My warden sacrificed and still dead.

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Oooooh, I see. You want to know if you can revive your dead warden to play Witch Hunt. Is that it?

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One warrior, one mage and one dog, then no rogue.



Hum, maybe my character need to be a rogue if I found a locked chest in this dlc.

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I guess he wants to know if he can play with a Orleasian Warden, while the Warden made on Origin died for Ultimate Sacrifice.

I guess you can just select to start a new game on Witch Hunt without importing a character.

But I don't know for sure since I never did the US, but I think that even if you import a character that has made it, he will actually be a Orlesian Warden but with the same equipment and physical characteristics of the dead Warden.

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TS2Aggie wrote...

You're right, it's extremely easy.

If you imported your dead warden into Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, what that does is change the ending. The Warden save file should now read that either he (or Alistair) participated in the Dark Ritual. Do you understand this part? If your Warden loved Morrigan, he will still love her in Witch Hunt. If your Warden hated her, he will still hate her in Witch Hunt.

If you played an Orlesian Warden for Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, there will be no pre-supposed relationship because they will have never met. Do you understand this? A PC does not have to have had a prior relationship with Morrigan to play this DLC.

I'm not sure why you're struggling with this concept.


1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??

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aka.seim wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

You're right, it's extremely easy.

If you imported your dead warden into Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, what that does is change the ending. The Warden save file should now read that either he (or Alistair) participated in the Dark Ritual. Do you understand this part? If your Warden loved Morrigan, he will still love her in Witch Hunt. If your Warden hated her, he will still hate her in Witch Hunt.

If you played an Orlesian Warden for Awakening and use that character to play Witch Hunt, there will be no pre-supposed relationship because they will have never met. Do you understand this? A PC does not have to have had a prior relationship with Morrigan to play this DLC.

I'm not sure why you're struggling with this concept.


1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??



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aka.seim wrote...

1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??



To your question, I assume that for Witch Hunt by importing your dead warden, you are undoing the ultimate sacrifice, as happened in Awakening. Note that I am only assuming this- bioware could have something different planned, but as this was the mechanic for Awakening and GoA, it's a pretty safe assumpion. So no, you cannot import a dead warden and play with a new character.

As for your if not statement, Gaider has stated that the ritual is not canon, as in if you (the warden in the origins campaign) did not do it, they will not assume you did it. So unless you import a warden that performed the ritual, there will be no godbaby.

I'm pretty sure I'm right about the above info (based on previous dlc and gaider posts) but WH could do something different. Only a few more hours! I'm so excited!:)

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"Solid N7" and thankyou very much for the movie....LMAO

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Wikal wrote...

aka.seim wrote...

1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??



To your question, I assume that for Witch Hunt by importing your dead warden, you are undoing the ultimate sacrifice, as happened in Awakening. Note that I am only assuming this- bioware could have something different planned, but as this was the mechanic for Awakening and GoA, it's a pretty safe assumpion. So no, you cannot import a dead warden and play with a new character.

As for your if not statement, Gaider has stated that the ritual is not canon, as in if you (the warden in the origins campaign) did not do it, they will not assume you did it. So unless you import a warden that performed the ritual, there will be no godbaby.

I'm pretty sure I'm right about the above info (based on previous dlc and gaider posts) but WH could do something different. Only a few more hours! I'm so excited!:)


He may be said that the Dark Ritual in non-cannon, but it seem like the only option for the Warden. If you import a character, doesn't matter what he said to Morrigan, it will be considered that he had done the Dark Ritual. The only other choice is to play Witch Hunt from the scratch, with a completely new Warden.

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So, I bit the bullet and downloaded Ostragar since I had excess points. Tomorrow will be a great day for New Achievements.

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Just wrapped up my DW warrior Cousland in Origins and all set for Witch Hunt! The DR scene still pisses me off after all this time- hopefully Witch Hunt isn't as disappointing.

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Time for work. Tomorrow will be a good day! It;s my day off, afterall.



...what? You were expecting another reason? :P

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Pritos wrote...

Wikal wrote...

aka.seim wrote...

1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??



To your question, I assume that for Witch Hunt by importing your dead warden, you are undoing the ultimate sacrifice, as happened in Awakening. Note that I am only assuming this- bioware could have something different planned, but as this was the mechanic for Awakening and GoA, it's a pretty safe assumpion. So no, you cannot import a dead warden and play with a new character.

As for your if not statement, Gaider has stated that the ritual is not canon, as in if you (the warden in the origins campaign) did not do it, they will not assume you did it. So unless you import a warden that performed the ritual, there will be no godbaby.

I'm pretty sure I'm right about the above info (based on previous dlc and gaider posts) but WH could do something different. Only a few more hours! I'm so excited!:)


He may be said that the Dark Ritual in non-cannon, but it seem like the only option for the Warden. If you import a character, doesn't matter what he said to Morrigan, it will be considered that he had done the Dark Ritual. The only other choice is to play Witch Hunt from the scratch, with a completely new Warden.

The warden can still live if he/she doesn't perform the DR. Someone else just has to die. Ergo, you can still have a savefile with no DR performed and with all your choices and warden intact, which can be imported into WH.

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Its the 7th here already in the UK, and no new DLC, Dammit!!! forgot that it probably goes by the American time zone.

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Pyro1099 wrote...

Its the 7th here already in the UK, and no new DLC, Dammit!!! forgot that it probably goes by the American time zone.

Don't worry man, we get it at noon, trying to rush the rest of my Origins before the DLC. My save got currupted. Posted Image

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In all honesty there is no difference between importing a save from Awakening or the GOA. Why, because if you finished GOA all that's DLC's items are transfered to you Origins and Awakening characters.

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Foreman20 wrote...

In all honesty there is no difference between importing a save from Awakening or the GOA. Why, because if you finished GOA all that's DLC's items are transfered to you Origins and Awakening characters.


A Warden from GOA will have 4 more Attribute points, and may have gone up in level, depending.

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UberDuber wrote...

Pyro1099 wrote...

Its the 7th here already in the UK, and no new DLC, Dammit!!! forgot that it probably goes by the American time zone.

Don't worry man, we get it at noon, trying to rush the rest of my Origins before the DLC. My save got currupted. Posted Image

Ouch :(. Atleast you've probably got the 500 and 1000 darkspawn acheivements, Ive killed over 2000 over multiple playthroughts and still nothing :(.

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what time on the 7th will the dlc be available here in the u.s.?

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

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Well, my Warden survived Origins. But it seems to me kind of weird that your dead Warden is still dead, but your new "Orlesian" Warden somehow has a relationship with Morri, a woman he never met.

You could, of course, always import from a point before your original Warden died, but if you import from the post-coronation point... how does the Orlesian warden even know Morri?


Because it's not the Orlesian Warden. Gaider has confirmed that if you import a dead warden, you took back the sacrifice decision. Its the same warden.




Well... weirder yet.

Reincarnation. The dead have arisen.

Sounds like George A. Romero territory.

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axdorffe wrote...

what time on the 7th will the dlc be available here in the u.s.?




The day Amgarrak came out, it was available on PC mid to late morning California time.

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BrianRB wrote...

axdorffe wrote...

what time on the 7th will the dlc be available here in the u.s.?




The day Amgarrak came out, it was available on PC mid to late morning California time.


NOOOOOO!  I've just finished work here in New Zealand, it's Tuesday the 7th, I checked last night and this morning before work was hoping to have it downloaded during work hours so I could play it when I got home, it's now 3.20pm and still no Witch Hunt or Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC released, really wish they'd put the different zone release dates out when announcing, I doubt I'll be able to download it until tomorrow on the 8th :/

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Battla wrote...

BrianRB wrote...

axdorffe wrote...

what time on the 7th will the dlc be available here in the u.s.?




The day Amgarrak came out, it was available on PC mid to late morning California time.


NOOOOOO!  I've just finished work here in New Zealand, it's Tuesday the 7th, I checked last night and this morning before work was hoping to have it downloaded during work hours so I could play it when I got home, it's now 3.20pm and still no Witch Hunt or Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC released, really wish they'd put the different zone release dates out when announcing, I doubt I'll be able to download it until tomorrow on the 8th :/

I hear you Battla, same here in the U.K. I wished the DLC was already out.

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Wikal wrote...

Pritos wrote...

Wikal wrote...

aka.seim wrote...

1) I'm not stupid and I understand everything
2) You have not read all my post or you have not understood my question
3) I can not believe there are no more people with this problem
4) I can not believe it's so hard to understand
5) I know which is the situation and everything you have post because that, all of that, was all that I write first.

I did the last sacrificed and refuse the ritual... Now:
-If I have played Awakening with him my sacrificed has been undo
-If I have played Awakening with an Orlesian warden my choices hasn't been import

Question:
-Would I be able to import my dead warden from Origins to Which Hunt and play with a new character???

If not:
-If I import a new Orlesian warden with no choices imported from Origins
or
-If a create a new character for Which Hunt

Are the default choices for them that the grey warden from Origins refuse the ritual and sacrificed himself????? Is the default choices that Morrigan has not be pregnant?? That there is no god child??



To your question, I assume that for Witch Hunt by importing your dead warden, you are undoing the ultimate sacrifice, as happened in Awakening. Note that I am only assuming this- bioware could have something different planned, but as this was the mechanic for Awakening and GoA, it's a pretty safe assumpion. So no, you cannot import a dead warden and play with a new character.

As for your if not statement, Gaider has stated that the ritual is not canon, as in if you (the warden in the origins campaign) did not do it, they will not assume you did it. So unless you import a warden that performed the ritual, there will be no godbaby.

I'm pretty sure I'm right about the above info (based on previous dlc and gaider posts) but WH could do something different. Only a few more hours! I'm so excited!:)


He may be said that the Dark Ritual in non-cannon, but it seem like the only option for the Warden. If you import a character, doesn't matter what he said to Morrigan, it will be considered that he had done the Dark Ritual. The only other choice is to play Witch Hunt from the scratch, with a completely new Warden.

The warden can still live if he/she doesn't perform the DR. Someone else just has to die. Ergo, you can still have a savefile with no DR performed and with all your choices and warden intact, which can be imported into WH.

Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot you could make Loghain or Alistair kill the Archdemon instead.