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Thanks for posting that, Matthew. While I've seen other official words from Gaider saying similar things, its good to know that he sees the naysayers as blowing things out of proportion.



and yes, lol about Valandil's song. I'm a little more enthusiastic about DA2 now that, due to word from devs and the ending of Witch Hunt, we will possibly see the Warden again.



Just to keep this thread going, and to bring up a concept we've been avoiding but know all too well will be present...



I was thinking, we should discuss the voice-acting for the Warden's return, since that is where the Dragon Age team will most likely go after DA2 (and has become the new things for Bioware games since Mass Effect).



So how about a question about the most obvious concern, voice-actors. I'm guessing (and at least hoping, because the alternative would just be idiotic) that each race would have a female/male voice actor, making 6 total for the major dialogue. It is a lot, but if Bioware wanted race consistency this would be the only logical way to go (after all, VERY FEW elves and dwarves have the different country accents that humans have).



So my question is this:

Who would you like to see as voice actors for female and male elf, dwarf, and human wardens upon a warden return to the Dragon Age series?



I only have one of these variables in mind for an answer, and that is male elf. I believe Brad Swaile would be the best choice for male elf. He has done a lot of anime in the past and is probably most famous right now for his portrayal of Light Yagami from "Death Note." It is this performance I have in mind with my selection. Swaile's tone and inflection, and how the voice sounds, fits a male elf, whether a witty rogue or a straight-up bad-ass warrior (Swaile is capable of many complex emotions). Plus, Swaile is Canadian, so he wouldn't have to travel TOO far to work on said game.



Well, now its your turn: Who would you like to see voice dwarf, elf, and human male or female warden?


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I think that actually playing the Warden isn't necessary, but I am pretty sure he/she will be in DA2 even,  I mean the gmae starts in Lothering, who's to say you won't SEE the Warden from time to time as you play?

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Yeah I want my warden to have a voice

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I don't think I'd want my warden to show up if I couldn't control him/her. If I can't control what they say then what's the point, the warden is an empty vessel for the player to project a character on.

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unlikely since warden could be dead. A return would require a ret con or canon ending or a very minor re appearance no?

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RVallant wrote...

unlikely since warden could be dead. A return would require a ret con or canon ending or a very minor re appearance no?


Why a ret con? He's not dead (yet). If he or she did the US, then he or she is dead for good, and that's it.

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I would love a Warden reappearance, but I am thinking if he shows it will be at the end of DA2 if not a DA3.

I have a Theory on the Mirror World from Witch Hunt, what if it is to The Black City? And maybe we have parallel storylines? every so often we switch off between playing Hawke and the Warden. Both coming at the same problem from different angles? Or the Warden is played in flashback scenes much like Final Fantasy 8 had playable flashbacks, as Hawke is in the Mirror World, unravelling the mystery of what happened to Morrigan and/or the Warden, whatever it may be?


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Lord_Valandil wrote

RVallant wrote...

unlikely since warden could be dead. A return would require a ret con or canon ending or a very minor re appearance no?


Why a ret con? He's not dead (yet). If he or she did the US, then he or she is dead for good, and that's it.


Very true, and even so, Gaider did even mention once that if the DA team wanted the Warden back in a future DA title, they would work in some type of resurrection angle to bring dead wardens back

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I would love a Warden reappearance, but I am thinking if he shows it will be at the end of DA2 if not a DA3.
I have a Theory on the Mirror World from Witch Hunt, what if it is to The Black City? And maybe we have parallel storylines? every so often we switch off between playing Hawke and the Warden. Both coming at the same problem from different angles? Or the Warden is played in flashback scenes much like Final Fantasy 8 had playable flashbacks, as Hawke is in the Mirror World, unravelling the mystery of what happened to Morrigan and/or the Warden, whatever it may be?


This sounds pretty cool, though it has been hammered in over and over again by devs that the Warden is confirmed not to be in DA2 in any sense. Still though, for a future plot, I wouldn't mind this ^_^


Now come on, people, lets not be so negative about something that is still relatively possible ;)


About my earlier new topic: do any of you have ideas on Warden voice actors for each race/gender, or am I the only one who's thought about this? :P

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this breaks my heart.

I hope so.

Me and my dog!

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I dont want to see my warden in DA2. itll just ****** me off. The thing that made this game so great was the way you could really get into the character you designed. Seeing my warden from the outside looking in...AngryPanda >:o

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I dont want to see my warden in DA2. itll just ****** me off. The thing that made this game so great was the way you could really get into the character you designed. Seeing my warden from the outside looking in...AngryPanda >:o


You're talking about the rumored "walk-in" appearance the Warden supposedly will have in DA2, right? Because if you think we're advocating the Warden for DA2, you're wrong, because we're not, having accepted that Hawke is our main character for the game.

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Yes, I fully agree, I want my warden back and I want Alistair there was well as a companion.

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I'd like to see my Warden in DA2. Not sure I'd want to interact with her, though, as Mordechaisiz said above.

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Method, i was directing my comment at a earlier post.

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Mordechaisiz wrote...

Method, i was directing my comment at a earlier post.


Ahh ok. Not sure which post you were commenting on, but no worries :lol:

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Bring them all back! along with our wardens.

Yay for actual appearences,

Nay for references.

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Glad I found this thread. I'm a hardcore wisher of the Wardens return :) Bringing Morrigan back in DA 3 without the Warden would be a sad thing indeed. I've found the main argument for why the Warden won't ever return is that there are too many variables affecting how people played their Warden. Some people not romancing/befriending Morrigan even. But surely the one thing that makes Bioware RPG's streets ahead of the rest, is that the choices you make, DO matter. Who is to say that they won't be able to make a DA3 that caters for all the Warden playthroughs. I bet with some clever writing they could even lump a few of the outcomes together and it still seem totally feasible within the DA universe. It's been said that ME3 has over 1000 variables in terms of imported choices. So I don't see catering for different Warden playtroughs as too much of an issue, personally. Wether or not it's that simple is admittedly outside of my knowledge. But it seems they are doing such a thing for ME3. So why not DA3?



But yes, a return to the Warden in DA3 would be a dream come true. I think the character could well have a large part to play still in the DA world. As for voice actors...I actually like my Warden being silent. But I think you are probably right Method, that would be the direction taken. The financial implications of having different VA's for each race/gender would be quite huge though. So perhaps they would find some good all rounders instead? I'd like for them to do the former if they ever did voice the Warden, but I think it would stretch their budget :(



I'd have to think on good candidates though. That's a tough one indeed.

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Bioware has never to my knowledge made a bad game (once they've rectified the bugs). I can just see it now: DA2 will be released and all players will be screaming for a Hawke sequel, forgetting everything about the Grey Wardens. When DA3 is released containing Mr. or Mrs. Blonk the Grey Wardens won't be given a second thought, with everyone screaming for a Blonk sequel.



As much as I'd like the Grey Wardens to carry on, it just ain't gonna happen. The Warden copyright is owned by the author and only the single book has been published. Bioware can't simply do their own thang.




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Yay!!!!! I just hope that the Warden could be imported properly (retain the original look) but I don't know with all this ''new visual artwork'' whatnot nonsense.

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Ok, MindYerBeak, you need to actually back up your ridiculous claim that Dragon Age: Origins is based on prior source material, or did you completely forget this on the Witch Hunt discussion thread:

Eurypterid wrote...

MindYerBeak wrote...

As
far as I'm aware DAO was based on a best selling book. Bioware
purchased the game copyright for the book and the rest was easy peasy. A
sequel to the book hasn't been published, so Bioware have to make stuff
up for the DLCs, using secondhand writers to keep costs down. Of all
the DLCs being released only 2 are worthy of purchase: Shale and
Leliana's Song, the rest are rubbish. This will continue to be the case.
I don't understand why people buy them when announced. I always let the
purchasers be the beta testers before I decide to buy.

Morrigan
said in the original, "You will never see or hear from me again." There
isn't a follow up book, hence a new DA2. The Bioware Morrigan DLC is
pure guesswork, and as you've seen it's pure rubbish, money thrown down
the drain, not good during a recession. I'm sure a Modder could write a
better scripted version, which would be free and contain a plausable
ending, even though it would still be pure guesswork. This is the
direction you should all go for a Morrigan sequel.


I realize this is 4 days old, but I
just saw it. Not to put too fine an edge on it, but your post is
completely off the mark. I don't know where you got your info, but it's
totally wrong.

Dragon Age is an original IP and not
based on a book. David Gaider, the lead writer for DA:O wrote two
'prequel' novels set before the events of DA:O, but they were
written/released after the game was developed and released itself. Those
are the only novel tie-ins to Dragon Age to date.


Unless you can provide a source as proof that Eurypterid is wrong, I'm just going to assume your constant posting of this theory you have is trolling. Yes that is an official challenge :). Prove us wrong or shut it :P

As for the thread coming back, YAY! I knew bringing in some from the Morrigan thread would work. Thank you both, MGS and Shade of Wolf for reviving it.

And yes, while I'd be worried about the mechanics of how it would work, the Warden returning is the only justified outcome for the story after DA2

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/sign...I want my Warden back for DA3 and she/he can continue to be silent (without voice actor). I wouldn't mind aswell that we need to make new look from scratch (cos of new graphic, models and that stuff). Ah just bring Warden back! And dog! And Alistair... :P *waving with money in front of Bioware*

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I don't agree...
If it is an expansion for the game in which the original character was created I agree.
If it is a new game you have new characters.


Im with you on this. Looking forward to the new direction DA2 is taking. Another entire game with my warden would be a bit 'same old, same old' to me, especially after Awakening and all the dlc. A refreshing new direction is just what was needed IMO.  I would also happily purchase a 'quality' expansion to DA:O for my warden though, to bring his story to conclusion. Same warden different enemy for DA2 though, nah. What could we possibly face? Another blight? Dont care if thats a minority or even a singular view.

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You can obviously have any view, and I respect it if you want to move on past the warden, but I have to correct part of your paragraph, which is quoted below.

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 What could we possibly face? Another blight? Dont care if thats a minority or even a singular view.


Not true. If you remember one of the discussions with Wynne, she says that the Grey Warden's purpose is to "serve", and that is pretty much all she says to end that sentence, and is her main point. The Grey Wardens serve all people of Ferelden, regardless if there is a Blight or no. They DO take on more responsibilities than defeating Darkspawn. All the political/lands of Amaranthine stuff you take care of in Awakening is proof enough of that. Sure, they specialize in Darkspawn, but that isn't ALL they deal with. I say with all the stuff hinted at in preview statements for DA2 that the Warden has MUCH MORE he/she can do. Flemeth, anyone? Morrigan said herself that Flemeth is the true threat. I say she's powerful enough to warrant the Warden's involvement.

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You can obviously have any view, and I respect it if you want to move on past the warden, but I have to correct part of your paragraph, which is quoted below.

Spuudle wrote...

 What could we possibly face? Another blight? Dont care if thats a minority or even a singular view.


Not true. If you remember one of the discussions with Wynne, she says that the Grey Warden's purpose is to "serve", and that is pretty much all she says to end that sentence, and is her main point. The Grey Wardens serve all people of Ferelden, regardless if there is a Blight or no. They DO take on more responsibilities than defeating Darkspawn. All the political/lands of Amaranthine stuff you take care of in Awakening is proof enough of that. Sure, they specialize in Darkspawn, but that isn't ALL they deal with. I say with all the stuff hinted at in preview statements for DA2 that the Warden has MUCH MORE he/she can do. Flemeth, anyone? Morrigan said herself that Flemeth is the true threat. I say she's powerful enough to warrant the Warden's involvement.


Ok so why is that incorrect?? You want a full game, serving the people of Ferelden, dealing with politics and Flemeth. Well, as I understand it, we will be dealing with Flemeth in DA2 anyway. So that leaves us with Serving and Politics. Gripping stuff! Not going to fill an entire game so I ask you once more: Another Blight?  Again, a fresh new direction is just what is needed. I like many others would like to see my wardens story brought to conclusion, but I feel it would be better in dlc, or a 'quality expansion'. Doubt it will happen though. IMO there just isnt enough material for keeping the warden, whilst keeping the game engaging and fresh. I also accept that many people are resistent to any change at all.  I do agree with you on one thing though, I am indeed entitled to my view. :)

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I hardly think Flemmeth will be 'dealt with' in DA2. I have a feeling she could be around a bit longer yet. And personally, I would love to know more about what Wardens' do in between Blights. Other than the obvious ofcourse.



I'm fairly sure they don't all huddle up in Weisshaupt looking out their bedroom windows, with spyglasses, trained on the Horizon, until a Darkspawn appears. I think there is alot of scope story wise on Grey Wardens outside of the Blight. But then I would say that. As I think the Grey Wardens are one of the best Fantasy creations ever.