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The Official Prayer thread for Warden appearance in future Sequels

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Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 06:44

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GehnTheGrey wrote...

I hardly think Flemmeth will be 'dealt with' in DA2. I have a feeling she could be around a bit longer yet. And personally, I would love to know more about what Wardens' do in between Blights. Other than the obvious ofcourse.

I'm fairly sure they don't all huddle up in Weisshaupt looking out their bedroom windows, with spyglasses, trained on the Horizon, until a Darkspawn appears. I think there is alot of scope story wise on Grey Wardens outside of the Blight. But then I would say that. As I think the Grey Wardens are one of the best Fantasy creations ever.


LOL. You misunderstand my point, but I meant the Flemeth storyline was continuing, and thats why I said  'dealing with'and NOT 'dealt with'. It also meant, that point could now be dropped in terms of the rest of the paragraph/argument. It did not mean Flemeth would be brought to conclusion, as nobody knows whats to happen yet, do they. I dont disagree about the wardens being one of the best character creations.  I did not say wardens only battle darkspawn. You think theres more scope, and I think a new direction was needed as the warden story is now running out of things to keep me engaged/blown away/excited with,  like DA:O did (IMO).  I want to see my wardens story brought to conclusion, but not in DA2 as he's getting boring now to be frank.  I want to experience that DA awesomeness again in March. That was/is just my opinion. For me, BW have got it bang on. It is no more correct than incorrect. It is an opinion. :)
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Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 07:10

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Yeah, I too am eagerly anticipating DA2 :) I deffinitely like what they are doing with it. I'm very excited by the fact that we get to play through 10 years of Thedas's History too. I'm just not sure DLC or an expansion could do the Warden justice. That's why i'm hoping the Warden will get some love in DA3. I can see your point though, to be sure.

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Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 07:16

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Yeah, I too am eagerly anticipating DA2 :) I deffinitely like what they are doing with it. I'm very excited by the fact that we get to play through 10 years of Thedas's History too. I'm just not sure DLC or an expansion could do the Warden justice. That's why i'm hoping the Warden will get some love in DA3. I can see your point though, to be sure.


That may indeed be the way to go. You cant tell me in all honesty that with all thats to come in DA2, it will be less appealing/exciting than if we continued with the same warden, surely? I think it will be fantastic. I suspect that a decent proportion of those massively offended by no warden, will be fighting for Hawk to continue pre DA3 lol.  It is a bit strange having all the lingering questions in the wardens story, but im sure it will all get tied up by the end.  Without the new direction though, they did risk players getting bored.

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Posté 07 octobre 2010 - 08:29

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"The Grey Wardens serve all people of Ferelden, regardless if there is a Blight or no. They DO take on more responsibilities than defeating Darkspawn"



just something I'm taking from one of my posts, and its a quote for emphasis.



Spuudle, as long as you're speaking out of personal opinion, fine, but you're coming awfully close to assuming what other people want. I know the majority of Morrigan-romancers, for example, will demand the Warden's presence when Morrigan eventually returns, because the Warden's story is definitely NOT finished in that regard. And honestly, they do. If Morrigan is a major presence, and the Warden is her lover, then he would (or at least should) be a major presence as well. I hardly consider this meaning the Warden's story is boring. Again, this is about more than just darkspawn. Who knows what'll happen at the end of DA2? Maybe afterwards the Warden will be NEEDED.



I, for one, will want the Warden back after DA2, regardless of how cool Hawke may be. I'm playing DA2 mostly in faith that the Warden's story will continue after, especially in regards to Morrigan.

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Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 12:55

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"The Grey Wardens serve all people of Ferelden, regardless if there is a Blight or no. They DO take on more responsibilities than defeating Darkspawn"

just something I'm taking from one of my posts, and its a quote for emphasis.

Spuudle, as long as you're speaking out of personal opinion, fine, but you're coming awfully close to assuming what other people want. I know the majority of Morrigan-romancers, for example, will demand the Warden's presence when Morrigan eventually returns, because the Warden's story is definitely NOT finished in that regard. And honestly, they do. If Morrigan is a major presence, and the Warden is her lover, then he would (or at least should) be a major presence as well. I hardly consider this meaning the Warden's story is boring. Again, this is about more than just darkspawn. Who knows what'll happen at the end of DA2? Maybe afterwards the Warden will be NEEDED.

I, for one, will want the Warden back after DA2, regardless of how cool Hawke may be. I'm playing DA2 mostly in faith that the Warden's story will continue after, especially in regards to Morrigan.


I never stated that the wardens story was completed (Did you actually read my post properly?), so dont get why you even mention that? (actually said id like it brought to conclusion lol) Again, never said they only deal with darkspawn either. My original post obviously niggled you (Why? cos I dare to disagree with you?) but you' ve interpreted it all wrong. I am not saying what other people want. I made one little comment that I liked the direction of DA2, and that for me, after all dlc's etc, not a lot left for the warden IMO (For an Entire Game!). YOU then said I was INCORRECT. My opinion is not a matter of fact so cant be. If you start a thread, then someone has a different view, thats life mate! Dont put words in my mouth though. The wardens story is NOT boring, Come the end of the DA:O;DA:A, and all DLC, yes the things to do WITH the warden are now getting a tad boring and thin on the ground IMO. Not another entire game of same, is all I said! Im not going to apologise for my opinion, just stop twisting it round mate! Nobody knows the outcome of DA2, maybe the warden will be needed? I made comments about DA2 only. Maybe you should re-visit and re-read them?

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Posté 08 octobre 2010 - 01:49

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GehnTheGrey wrote...

Yeah, I too am eagerly anticipating DA2 :) I deffinitely like what they are doing with it. I'm very excited by the fact that we get to play through 10 years of Thedas's History too.


Yeah but those ten years are going to be no more than roughly 30 hours of game time according to the Devs (compared to the 60+ gaming hours we were able to get out of a Blight that lasted just a week).  So expect those ten years to rush by fairly quickly. :-)

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Posté 10 octobre 2010 - 06:39

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Haha, this is true Maestro. The joys of a voiced PC. Even so, i'm interested to see how we'll go from A-Z.

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Posté 11 octobre 2010 - 12:39

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Spuudle wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...

"The Grey Wardens serve all people of Ferelden, regardless if there is a Blight or no. They DO take on more responsibilities than defeating Darkspawn"

just something I'm taking from one of my posts, and its a quote for emphasis.

Spuudle, as long as you're speaking out of personal opinion, fine, but you're coming awfully close to assuming what other people want. I know the majority of Morrigan-romancers, for example, will demand the Warden's presence when Morrigan eventually returns, because the Warden's story is definitely NOT finished in that regard. And honestly, they do. If Morrigan is a major presence, and the Warden is her lover, then he would (or at least should) be a major presence as well. I hardly consider this meaning the Warden's story is boring. Again, this is about more than just darkspawn. Who knows what'll happen at the end of DA2? Maybe afterwards the Warden will be NEEDED.

I, for one, will want the Warden back after DA2, regardless of how cool Hawke may be. I'm playing DA2 mostly in faith that the Warden's story will continue after, especially in regards to Morrigan.


I never stated that the wardens story was completed (Did you actually read my post properly?), so dont get why you even mention that? (actually said id like it brought to conclusion lol) Again, never said they only deal with darkspawn either. My original post obviously niggled you (Why? cos I dare to disagree with you?) but you' ve interpreted it all wrong. I am not saying what other people want. I made one little comment that I liked the direction of DA2, and that for me, after all dlc's etc, not a lot left for the warden IMO (For an Entire Game!). YOU then said I was INCORRECT. My opinion is not a matter of fact so cant be. If you start a thread, then someone has a different view, thats life mate! Dont put words in my mouth though. The wardens story is NOT boring, Come the end of the DA:O;DA:A, and all DLC, yes the things to do WITH the warden are now getting a tad boring and thin on the ground IMO. Not another entire game of same, is all I said! Im not going to apologise for my opinion, just stop twisting it round mate! Nobody knows the outcome of DA2, maybe the warden will be needed? I made comments about DA2 only. Maybe you should re-visit and re-read them?


I've read your posts, believe me, and this isn't me throwing a fit. I'm confronting you because you're the one saying something completely different than what you seem to mean to say. I'm getting the sense that its one way then another with your statements. I'd like a clear opinion from you on whether the points presented are accurate or not, because right now it seems you're going different directions :huh:

Also with the part of your post I bolded... REALLY? You're playing THAT card? Come on. Now you're sounding like the very group you're accusing me of being in. I have challenged your opinions, true, but all in good discussion. If I see points that are wrong, then I will argue them. Thats the point of discussion, isn't it? Threads are made for discussion, and while people can just post statements and let them be, you can't just expect people to ignore what you say if they think your info is off. And I'm not putting words in your mouth. You did indeed say the Warden's story would become boring. I've merely provided examples of why it can be fun. Not shoving anything down anyone's throat, mind you, so quit with the random accusations.

My reasoning for why the Grey Wardens can be needed past DA2 are at least based on implied fact. What Wynne said about Grey Wardens, that I paraphrased, I take seriously because she says to the warden at Ostagar that she's battled darkspawn in small groups. Regardless of the groups being small, I still doubt that she wasn't accompanied by at least a grey warden or two when fighting those darkspawn. She seems to know a lot about darkspawn and grey wardens, and given her age and experience, I'll take her word for it.

Then again, as I said before, you seem to be flip-flopping on opinions here. Any clarification on your part would be helpful :D

Modifié par PureMethodActor, 11 octobre 2010 - 01:52 .

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Posté 11 octobre 2010 - 12:45

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a) Look mate, I really dont care what wynne said, nothing to do with my point (enough warden volume for DA2) and you assume too much.
B) I said the wardens story is now struggling with things to do FOR ME, and FOR ME, is getting boring now after all dlc's. A full game continuing on the same way, no FOR ME.
c) No random accusations made by me there mate IMO.
d) My opinion never mentioned anything about, beyond DA2 and ill keep it that way.
e) How can my opinion be 'off info'?
f) Shoving down peoples throat - Your not??

Same direction. Same simple opinion. Need new direction for DA2 to keep it fresh and engaging (FOR ME). Im glad BW have taken that direction. I would also like to bring wardens story to conclusion(but in dlc, or expansion) like I have said since start (although that wont happen) as not enough to fill an entire game. Also, what 'group' have i accused you of being in? Please, please dont start quoting wynne at me again. Finally, there is no flip flop whatsoever. Just the same, simple point of view mate.

Edit In respect of my reply to GehnTheGrey, revisting the warden in DA3 indeed, maybe the way to go? I can say no more than that until DA2 concludes.  By then, we could have more material, know more of the story, even have more adventures we could pursue. However, until Ive reached the end of DA2, I maintain that FOR ME, there is insufficient material for the entire game of DA2 to be based upon the warden. Maybe you would be kind enough to tell me why am I unable to say what I mean?
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hmm...



Spuudle, I'm not sure why you've taken such a confrontational tone, since looking at your last post I'm realizing we're more in agreement than we thought. We both agree about DA2's current direction, and you're open to Warden appearance in DA3, so thats cool. I've been providing reasons for my point of view, and if were open to a warden return in DA3, you should have made that more clear. I mean, this is what I'm getting from your post. If I'm wrong about what you're saying, feel free to correct me.



and by what group I was referring to, you seriously seemed to call me some whiny noob-poster who can't handle different opinions, which is why I reacted with my point on the forums being for active, intelligent discussion and argument. If this wasn't what you meant, fine, but that's how the wording came across.



Again I'm not shoving opinions down anyones throats, or I would have said "this is this way, there is no other right way, you must believe me!" and I've said nothing like that.



Hey, if the Warden's story is done for you, that's cool. While this thread was created for supporters of a Warden return, nothing at all stops you from posting here with why you disagree. Did you see me verbally ban other naysayers? No I haven't. I replied to their posts, though, and asked questions on their viewpoints.



Again, though, were a bit more in agreement that you think, even if its just a bit.

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Posté 11 octobre 2010 - 07:49

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I'm one of the people who won't be buying DA2. Still play it though, I want to know what Flemeth is up to.



I want the warden to return in DA3!

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Posté 11 octobre 2010 - 07:55

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@PureMethodActor. Listen, I didn't take a confrontational tone at all, until you sort of accused me of being unable to correctly express my opinion, but apologise, ok? I never said I was against the wardens return, just that there wasn't enough material, IMO, for the full game of DA2. I don't disagree with your comments about Wynne, but that's not enough, for me, for a full game. I have said the same thing in all posts and didn't get why this was a flip/flop opinion. That aside, the dlc quality and massive let down with WH, may have also contributed to my opinion (I too romanced Morrigan). Yes a fresh start, new direction im all for. If this leads to fresh challenges and adventures for the warden in DA3 then great. The wardens story is not done, but I dont want to sacrifice a potential great game just for answers. rather wait (for DA3 or dlc) and have them answers with great content.

Edit I actually posted in support of someone else's comment. I was also supporting the wardens return, just not in DA2.  I take your point though.

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@PureMethodActor. Listen, I didn't take a confrontational tone at all, until you sort of accused me of being unable to correctly express my opinion.


well for that I sincerely apologize. Maybe a misunderstanding between us?

I never said I was against the wardens return, just that there wasn't enough material, IMO, for the full game of DA2. I don't disagree with your comments about Wynne, but that's not enough, for me, for a full game. I have said the same thing in all posts and didn't get why this was a flip/flop opinion.


The way you worded your previous posts said otherwise to me, which is why I was glad you cleared it up with the post before your last one.

That aside, the dlc quality and massive let down with WH, may have also contributed to my opinion (I too romanced Morrigan). Yes a fresh start, new direction im all for. If this leads to fresh challenges and adventures for the warden in DA3 then great.


This I can agree with completely. I'm more optimistic about Witch Hunt (as I liked the two party members and the 5 minutes with Morrigan was worth it for me, but I agree with the disappointment over the whole build of it overall. I agree with others that it should have been a whole expansion pack rather than a 7-dollar dlc. I fear that Morrigan included in DA3 is going to happen without the Warden (the personal investment factor that those in the Morrigan thread advocate for Morrigan/Warden return in DA3), but at the same time I don't want a cheap story either. I'm pretty sure we won't get a cheap story given everything Flemeth seems to be scheming for.

The wardens story is not done, but I dont want to sacrifice a potential great game just for answers. rather wait (for DA3 or dlc) and have them answers with great content.


I will admit when I first heard of DA2's story direction I was quite angry with the decision. Over time, I've come to accept it and embrace it with hopes that the future of Dragon Age will bring back the Flemeth/Morrigan/Warden story, which I hope they will. For now though, I agree that DA2's direction should be interesting and hopefully fun (still wondering about the action-focused style, though :blush:)

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PureMethodActor wrote...

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@PureMethodActor. Listen, I didn't take a confrontational tone at all, until you sort of accused me of being unable to correctly express my opinion.


well for that I sincerely apologize. Maybe a misunderstanding between us?

I never said I was against the wardens return, just that there wasn't enough material, IMO, for the full game of DA2. I don't disagree with your comments about Wynne, but that's not enough, for me, for a full game. I have said the same thing in all posts and didn't get why this was a flip/flop opinion.


The way you worded your previous posts said otherwise to me, which is why I was glad you cleared it up with the post before your last one.

That aside, the dlc quality and massive let down with WH, may have also contributed to my opinion (I too romanced Morrigan). Yes a fresh start, new direction im all for. If this leads to fresh challenges and adventures for the warden in DA3 then great.


This I can agree with completely. I'm more optimistic about Witch Hunt (as I liked the two party members and the 5 minutes with Morrigan was worth it for me, but I agree with the disappointment over the whole build of it overall. I agree with others that it should have been a whole expansion pack rather than a 7-dollar dlc. I fear that Morrigan included in DA3 is going to happen without the Warden (the personal investment factor that those in the Morrigan thread advocate for Morrigan/Warden return in DA3), but at the same time I don't want a cheap story either. I'm pretty sure we won't get a cheap story given everything Flemeth seems to be scheming for.

The wardens story is not done, but I dont want to sacrifice a potential great game just for answers. rather wait (for DA3 or dlc) and have them answers with great content.


I will admit when I first heard of DA2's story direction I was quite angry with the decision. Over time, I've come to accept it and embrace it with hopes that the future of Dragon Age will bring back the Flemeth/Morrigan/Warden story, which I hope they will. For now though, I agree that DA2's direction should be interesting and hopefully fun (still wondering about the action-focused style, though :blush:)


Well I cant really disagree with any of that. I just hope that if the warden does return, then there are plenty of fresh, challenging and interesting adventures for him, along with the answers.  Although completely different, I was a tad disappointed when ME2 became more action shooter and less RPG, although it was still a great game.  The atmosphere changed and although the improvements were many, there were a lot of disappointments too. I hope DA2 maintains all the things that got me into it? Not long until we find out though......................

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Spuudle wrote...

 Although completely different, I was a tad disappointed when ME2 became more action shooter and less RPG, although it was still a great game.  The atmosphere changed and although the improvements were many, there were a lot of disappointments too. I hope DA2 maintains all the things that got me into it? Not long until we find out though......................


Oh god I totally agree with you here. It took me a LONG time to get used to ME2's new mechanics, and while I did get used to them and eventually embrace them, I hated that the RPG elements were lessened for the sequel. I hope DA2 maintains it's RPG feel as well, rather than becoming a pure action/adventure game...

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Spuudle wrote...

 Although completely different, I was a tad disappointed when ME2 became more action shooter and less RPG, although it was still a great game.  The atmosphere changed and although the improvements were many, there were a lot of disappointments too. I hope DA2 maintains all the things that got me into it? Not long until we find out though......................


Oh god I totally agree with you here. It took me a LONG time to get used to ME2's new mechanics, and while I did get used to them and eventually embrace them, I hated that the RPG elements were lessened for the sequel. I hope DA2 maintains it's RPG feel as well, rather than becoming a pure action/adventure game...


Me too, although I suspect they will be dumbed down also. (I have no concrete info for this statement, just my gut feeling considering ME2 and EA's wider audience thing).

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Spuudle wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...

Spuudle wrote...

 Although completely different, I was a tad disappointed when ME2 became more action shooter and less RPG, although it was still a great game.  The atmosphere changed and although the improvements were many, there were a lot of disappointments too. I hope DA2 maintains all the things that got me into it? Not long until we find out though......................


Oh god I totally agree with you here. It took me a LONG time to get used to ME2's new mechanics, and while I did get used to them and eventually embrace them, I hated that the RPG elements were lessened for the sequel. I hope DA2 maintains it's RPG feel as well, rather than becoming a pure action/adventure game...


Me too, although I suspect they will be dumbed down also. (I have no concrete info for this statement, just my gut feeling considering ME2 and EA's wider audience thing).


Well as consolation, at least we'll have good story/writing... but then again as Zero Punctuation (a wierd and semi-internet-famous game reviewer) said, "Bioware doesn't score points for that anymore. Birds fly, fish swim, Michael Atkinson molests dogs, and Bioware games have good writing." This is the precise reason I haven't said before (but I'm saying it now) that I want to make sure the Warden's return does have a good story behind it. In part I feel like I shouldn't even mention that because Bioware making a good story is a given in my personal opinion (I know others who disagree, though)

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:09

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PureMethodActor wrote...
...but then again as Zero Punctuation (a wierd and semi-internet-famous game reviewer) said, "Bioware doesn't score points for that anymore. Birds fly, fish swim, Michael Atkinson molests dogs, and Bioware games have good writing." This is the precise reason I haven't said before (but I'm saying it now) that I want to make sure the Warden's return does have a good story behind it. In part I feel like I shouldn't even mention that because Bioware making a good story is a given in my personal opinion (I know others who disagree, though)


Ha- thats true. Its taken for granted that BioWare games will have good writing and a good story to maybe overlook sometimes any less than stellar gameplay. So when a BioWare product is skimping on the story (most of the DA DLC), well, its rather apparent.


And so yes, if BioWare wants to keep going with the whole good storytelling thing, they need to bring the Warden back with Morrigan=]

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:40

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I'm all for bringing the wardens back!! =D I'm kinda anxious to see how Hawke plays and all, but my heart is still with my warden until then. Plus, I want Alistair back, as a party member, not just a possible cameo.

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 11:00

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I'd love to play as the DA:O Warden again, especially if the game focuses on Morrigan and/or Flemeth. There's a lot of history between these characters and the Warden, so bringing him/her back to deal with them would provbide a hell of a emotional payback.



Gaider and Priestley have been hinting at the possibility of seeing the Warden again, but what exactly that means is anyone's guess at this point.

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 02:48

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I naturally support a return for the warden in a future title for reasons I've detailed at length elsewhere. As has been discussed and considering the current direction DA2 is probably not the right time for it, especially as DA2 is set to tell a very specific story about one particular individual.

Spuudle wrote...
The wardens story is NOT boring, Come the end of the DA:O;DA:A, and all DLC, yes the things to do WITH the warden are now getting a tad boring and thin on the ground IMO. Not another entire game of same, is all I said!

I can agree with that to an extent, the fault rests with BioWare not having a plan in place for their DLC model. Instead they have a wishy-washy "so, what shall we make this month" approach and we got real treats like Feastday Gifts & DS Chronicles (I believe the devs reasoning was "we're just trying different things"). What we could of had is some actual decent episodic content that actually enticed the player into buying the next DLC instead of worrying how it would fail to meet their expectations. It could have built up to something and maintained some of the momentum of the original plot, instead they allowed it to fizzle out.

Due to the complete lack of direction post-Origins it is perhaps a more viable solution to develop the plot in other areas - Flemeth, Chantry etc, in order to get the ball definitively rolling (in one specific direction) before hopefully concluding Morrigan's arc in a fitting manner. According to comments by Gaider/Laidlaw that appears to be what they are doing, setting the stage for certain events in the future. Thus, so long as the warden can play a part in the finale of Morrigan's arc (which I believe the WH endings set the initial groundwork for), there's no problem with DA2 from a story perspective in my eyes. Based solely on the devs comments, hints and the stopgap pseudo-closure we got from WH I can get on board with DA2 for now, though my concerns with the changes are many (that's a whole other topic though). Let's hope we don't have the same spiders web of hit and miss DLCs for DA2.

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:11

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Terra_Ex wrote...

...What we could of had is some actual decent episodic content that actually enticed the player into buying the next DLC instead of worrying how it would fail to meet their expectations. It could have built up to something and maintained some of the momentum of the original plot, instead they allowed it to fizzle out.


This...very much this.  To think we could have had a DA equivalent of Shadowbroker. That ability resides in Bioware, we all know it.  Instead of borrowing the good from ME, they borrow all the things most of us would like to see improved/changed in ME.  Talk about irony. 

It's almost as if they don't want to add anything to the storyline in DA DLC for fear of having to actually make good later on (yet) another plot thread.  Good thing ME has no such fear and no such limitations.  They deliver and deliver splendidly in their DLC.  I mean why even bother with the excuse of trying "new" things.  Not a single "test" 
(new thing, change, whatever one wished to call what they're doing) has worked to date.  The DA Team should go back to basics and learn rule ONE:  When you find yourself in a hole...stop digging!  Once that has fully saturated back into the Team's psyche, they can move on to Rule TWO: Never...ever...I mean ever...attempt to fix what ain't broke.

Aw hell, I could do this all day, and you've all heard it before.  Sorry, Rage Demon is again suppressed.

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:17

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Oh, and @ PureMethodActor,

This is a worthy thread. It may be futile, or accused of lacking in "the ability to embrace 'change;'" it might even be considered "myopic" by some, but it's definitely a noble effort.

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Barbarossa2010
Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:23

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Spuudle wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...

Spuudle wrote...

 Although completely different, I was a tad disappointed when ME2 became more action shooter and less RPG, although it was still a great game.  The atmosphere changed and although the improvements were many, there were a lot of disappointments too. I hope DA2 maintains all the things that got me into it? Not long until we find out though......................


Oh god I totally agree with you here. It took me a LONG time to get used to ME2's new mechanics, and while I did get used to them and eventually embrace them, I hated that the RPG elements were lessened for the sequel. I hope DA2 maintains it's RPG feel as well, rather than becoming a pure action/adventure game...


Me too, although I suspect they will be dumbed down also. (I have no concrete info for this statement, just my gut feeling considering ME2 and EA's wider audience thing).


Me three.  I am dong a fourth playthrough of ME2 as we speak, and have to say that I really, really miss that inventory and detailed levelling.   Of course, I blame my myopic attitude on Terra_Ex, Blademaster and Brock.

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Posté 13 octobre 2010 - 03:44

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Terra_Ex wrote...
 What we could of had is some actual decent episodic content that actually enticed the player into buying the next DLC instead of worrying how it would fail to meet their expectations. It could have built up to something and maintained some of the momentum of the original plot, instead they allowed it to fizzle out.

Totally agree- some measure of *gasp* continuity between the DLC would have been nice. And heck, just look at the reviews for all of Origins' DLC- they're routinely in the 50s on metarcritic while ME2's are high 70s or high 80s. Its one thing to try different things, but in doing so with much of the DLC, they missed the whole point people play BioWare games- the characters and the story. Witch Hunt was a step in the right direction, but that just felt like a much longer story being crammed into a tiny DLC.


Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Instead
of borrowing the good from ME, they borrow all the things most of
us would like to see improved/changed in ME.  Talk about irony. 


Right? The one key feature of ME I would have loved to see in DA, continuity of the PC- for at least one more game, is the one aspect they don't take from ME in making DA2. Ugh.
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