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[Superium]

Lately I have noticed something. If like a a video game has violence or cursing nobody lifts a finger. BUT if it has a hidden sex minigame or nudity people go bananas. Now why is that?

[Maria Caliban]

Superium wrote...

Lately I have noticed something. If like a a video game has violence or cursing nobody lifts a finger. BUT if it has a hidden sex minigame or nudity people go bananas. Now why is that?

Selective bias. You're ignoring the complaints people have about violence because they don't fit your theory.

[Kilsot]

I think what he was trying to say is that the uproar against the sex is far greater than what violence receives now. Years ago the media was definitely against all the violence but now it has calmed down. Why the media outlets get all worked up over blue alien sideboob is beyond me, well it WAS Fox news that went crazy so it does not really matter.

[Ruhdezee]

Fox News is the Evil Empire of video games... lol but i agreet it shouldnt matter as long as the game is rated M nobody under 18 should be playing it unless their parents gave the okay so watch your kids !

[Kilsot]

Ruhdezee wrote...

Fox News is the Evil Empire of video games... lol but i agreet it shouldnt matter as long as the game is rated M nobody under 18 should be playing it unless their parents gave the okay so watch your kids !

Thats the problem. Do you know how many kids under 17 are saying that their favorite games are rated M?

[Maria Caliban]

Kilsot wrote...

I think what he was trying to say is that the uproar against the sex is far greater than what violence receives now. Years ago the media was definitely against all the violence but now it has calmed down. Why the media outlets get all worked up over blue alien sideboob is beyond me, well it WAS Fox news that went crazy so it does not really matter.

The problem is that the 'uproar about sex' was a single, ten minute newscast on a 24 hour news network.This is just about as much time as any video game story gets, and less attention that Lindsy Lohan's twitter messages.

[Spaghett]

Rating a game M, or movie R will never stop kids from playing or watching. But honestly, what kind of 16 year old isn't mature enough to handle violence in games?

[Aleksandrov]

There's a trend towards desensitivity towards violence. Back in my parents age, aeons ago; blood and gore were strictly prohibited and such on television. Sex just hasn't been "desensitivised" towards that extent. Sure you can show a bit of booty and cleavage now, but sex largely remains taboo towards under-18s. And I have no problem with that. Same thing with drugs.

[carlosjuero]

The world is full of stupid people - in my local paper there was an article about how kids halloween costumes are getting 'Too Scary'... O.o... Halloween Costumes too scary?! Oy Ve. If it wasn't for idiots, we wouldn't have much in the newspapers.

[Sornin]

The recent issues with Left 4 Dead 2 in Australia should prove that violence is still not fine. Well, at least not fine everywhere. Certain countries such as Germany and Australia have very strict limits on violence and such. However, some of these same countries have a much more relaxed policy toward sex. It all has to do with culture, and it just so happens that in North America we are pretty cool with violence but have terribly unhealthy outlooks on sex. I mean, I would rather have kids looking at breasts than heads exploding into a shower of gore, but that's just me.

Modifié par Sornin, 23 octobre 2009 - 09:18 .

[Cadaveth]

People obviously like violence more than sex.

[Aleksandrov]

Bio-Boy 3000 wrote...

The theory of people becoming 'desensitized to violence' I have never agreed with. While arguments may or may not support this, I cannot see it have that deep and profound affect. No matter how much digital death you have seen on the monitor, you are going to react the same way as everyone else watching someone get their head blown off IRL.

EDIT: I should have mentioned it was on-screen and digital format. People don't jump around with gore movies now than they used to but yes, looking at RL car accidents and the like still makes me puke a bit it.  But it should to a certain extent still make you less squeemish. I need to pull up some studies data on it.

You'd have to train yourselves like surgeons or whatever to become desensitized in RL. Or be exposed to that in your field of work.

EDIT2: Then again the sex thing does provoke outrage more than violence. I know in Islam and to a certain-extent Christo-Judaism showing sex is just not fun at all.

Modifié par Aleksandrov, 23 octobre 2009 - 09:38 .

[Maufurtado]

Because most people are hypocrite.

[Sornin]

You would be surprised about desensitization. In my line of work I have seen some pretty terrible things and have become at least partially numbed to them. Not too long ago I was at the scene where a young girl had fell out on to the street and had her head run over by a semi-trailer truck, which essentially popped it like a grape and deposited the innards in a spray pattern on the highway, with some left in the treads. You could see through her left ear by looking down the top of her head. It was probably the most ghastly injury I had ever seen and most people would have been horrified, but it was just another day at work. I am not sure if video games can produce the same effect, but repeatedly being exposed to real horrors works.

[Davitto]

depends what country you're in. The US go ballistic over sex scenes but don't mind violence. The UK ban violence but allow sex.

[LdyShayna]

Superium wrote...

Lately I have noticed something. If like a a video game has violence or cursing nobody lifts a finger. BUT if it has a hidden sex minigame or nudity people go bananas. Now why is that?

Ticks me off too.  I'd like them to tone down the violence to bring it in line. 

[Maria Caliban]

For Lady Shayna.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 23 octobre 2009 - 10:31 .

[OwenM]

@Kilsot - many under 17's may say that their favourite games are M-rated, but statistics still show that the majority of people playing games with mature or higher ratings are in fact well over 18, all the way up to a large amount that are 35. The thing is, a 15 year old may be mature enough to handle it all. A 13 year old may be mature enough to take the violence and the sex and the drugs. And perhaps they aren't.



The problem with ratings is that they're a generalisation. The fact that some countries consider violence to be more acceptable than sex is perhaps one of tradition - movies have shown violence in much greater quantities than games, but the difference lies in that movies are photo-realistic, while games are still not - so the violence in games is a lot more acceptable. If it were photo-realistic, I don't think it would be, which is why we are seeing more cases of violence in games getting the game banned, or in the media, and so on. While you get the gist of it all, the violence depicted in games serves a purpose. You're killing ****s, zombies, aliens, whatever. Putting sex into a game, unless it is based on sex, is somewhat pointless, bar the obvious 'realism' and 'entertainment' value.



Meh. The main thing that annoys me is that countries which don't have an R18 rating end up banning games for everyone, even those who are well old enough to play them, instead of just cutting out the underage population.

[GhoXen]

Davitto wrote...

depends what country you're in. The US go ballistic over sex scenes but don't mind violence. The UK ban violence but allow sex.

Australia bans both, and drugs, and stuffs.

[Bebbe777]

Sweden is quite open to nudity and sometimes sex. Violence on the other hand is more strict

[LdyShayna]

Maria Caliban wrote...

For Lady Shayna.

My Little Pony!  Woohoo!

They're quite admamant about dental care, though, aren't they?

[Quixal]

LdyShayna wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

For Lady Shayna.

My Little Pony!  Woohoo!

They're quite admamant about dental care, though, aren't they?

And even there it depends on region. In newly conquered Toothopolis the cavity creeps have banned that youtube video.

Modifié par Quixal, 24 octobre 2009 - 01:18 .

[Maria Caliban]

LdyShayna wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

For Lady Shayna.

My Little Pony!  Woohoo!

They're quite admamant about dental care, though, aren't they?

The Greeks were the foundation of Western civilization, and you can't have a stable society when people's teeth are rotting. They were harsh, but fair.

[schalafi]

They also didn't believe in covering up nudity.