Lord Gremlin wrote...
Action RPG never allows you to pause action, and equally demands building your character and quick reflexes
Modifié par Haexpane, 26 août 2010 - 08:28 .
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
Krytheos wrote...
The story, setting and everything was quite well done. Some of the better acting, in it, too. I actually preferred the acting in Jade Empire to KOTOR's actors, but that's me. They flowed quite well, and made the story all the more enjoyable.
I liked the gameplay though it was a bit shallow. A sequel to Jade Empire would be on my top to-buy-immediately lists..
Also. I was wondering. When did 'action rpg' become a bad thing? And when did 'pause and play' and 'auto-attack' become part of action rpg's? Just wonderin'.
*hides behind Havard's Aegis.*
Modifié par Darc_Requiem, 26 août 2010 - 08:25 .
Krytheos wrote...
You do realize the jumping part is more than likely a skill that you likely don't ever even need to purchase unless you feel obligated/want to purchase with your talent skills, yes?
Neither of those things became those things. Action RPG is not objectively bad, it's just that Action RPG is what DA should not be. ME already has that covered. Different games with different styles is a good thing. Don't make them all the same.Darc_Requiem wrote...
Also. I was wondering. When did 'action rpg' become a bad thing? And when did 'pause and play' and 'auto-attack' become part of action rpg's? Just wonderin'.
Krytheos wrote...
To each their own. I thought Jade Empire was excellently well-done and one of their better games. Comes fairly close to KOTOR in that regard, but to each their own.
That's a total doomshame!lv12medic wrote...
Thats just because all the doomsayers are out of doomfuel because they didn't eat their doomwheaties for doombreakfast.
You doom of doom... hmm... doomsayers now became the one that predict doomsayers. AWESOME!filaminstrel wrote...
So does that mean we have evolved to a new stage of doomsayery, the metadoomsayer?
:wizard:
the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
Don't mind Bryy, Bioware could take a **** in a box, sell it and he'd call it awesome.the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
Modifié par ANDY5151, 26 août 2010 - 08:33 .
When these guys/gals are making fun of posters for screaming left and right about "it's action RPG like ME2!!!!!" and then their boss goes on G4 and says "it's action RPG," yes he did indeed just put their foots in their mouths.Bryy_Miller wrote...
But that's not putting anyone's foot in anyone's mouth if the connotations are not true.the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
You just made my day!ANDY5151 wrote...
who the hell is Ray Muzyka?
Edit: ah I googled him lol
Guest_Puddi III_*
I'm not trying to pick fights with any devs so I'm not naming names. But phrases come to mind of this variety: "I love how people go nuts without waiting to hear any actual information," "it's hilarious to see posters imediately assosate everything to ME2 just because of the dialog wheel," and "don't people ever realize that we get our kicks out of watching them go nuts over stuff when they don't have any real info on it yet."filaminstrel wrote...
I can't think of any instance of devs "making fun of posters," care to back that up? The most I've heard from a dev on the matter of "Dragon Effect" was Mike Laidlaw saying, "It's an understandable concern, but..."
dark-lauron wrote...
You just made my day!ANDY5151 wrote...
who the hell is Ray Muzyka?
Edit: ah I googled him lol
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
Don't mind Bryy, Bioware could take a **** in a box, sell it and he'd call it awesome.the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
Don't mind Bryy, Bioware could take a **** in a box, sell it and he'd call it awesome.the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
I'm glad at least one person in here besides me actually listened to the rest of the words Muzyka said besides "Action RPG." However, selective hearing is a skill I guess.andar91 wrote...
Everyone (except SteveGarbage above me) seems to be ignoring that before he called it an action rpg, he talks about the richness of tactics and such. Considering that we still select skills except for the regular attack, we can still issue orders, we can still manipulate our party's tactics, we can use auto-attack, and we can move the camera around (albeit differently) to survey the field, I fail to see how this game is in any way an action rpg. Unless he means that there's more action that's more exciting, which is great. You can be strategic and excited at the same time.
Ok, now I'll protect myself in case of flying rocks.
*Casts forecefield*
Kalfear wrote...
CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
Don't mind Bryy, Bioware could take a **** in a box, sell it and he'd call it awesome.the_one_54321 wrote...
Yes, that would be the point. At least a couple of the devs have spent numerous posts around here trying to reasure PC players that they weren't going to get an actioned out version of the game. In essesne trying to steer us away from the connotations of the label "action RPG" and here Ray just specifically slapped on the label "action RPG" along with all of its oh so taboo connotations.Bryy_Miller wrote...
Why? None of them even said it wasn't action.the_one_54321 wrote...
He just put a number of the devs foots in their mouths. I'm sure they're all just pleased as punch with him.
LOL, so true, so true!
Hell hed call it rich and flavorfull to boot!
The One, great points but as you see, all hypocricy will be spun and twisted away with nonsense!
As for Action part, why would anyone argue that, thats what most folks have expected, a step away from RPG and into Action. Ray just solidifies that concern.
Whats there to argue about!
PS: Wow, this first page of thread is so troll filled, Bioware must be so proud! Special Ed classes love their products now.
I heard the whole thing just fine. You've got to keep in mind the importance of the connotations behind the label "Action RPG." They don't go away just because he said "rich and tactical" before it. He's trying to sell the game to everyone, but some of us are just not falling for it. He said "Action RPG" and no matter how much he pines about Tactics or Richness, it won't take away that "Action RPG" is on top of all that. At least not until we see some gameplay footage and find out if he was just using that term to spin it for the consle gamers. (not meant as an insult to console gamers)SteveGarbage wrote...
I'm glad at least one person in here besides me actually listened to the rest of the words Muzyka said besides "Action RPG." However, selective hearing is a skill I guess.andar91 wrote...
Everyone (except SteveGarbage above me) seems to be ignoring that before he called it an action rpg, he talks about the richness of tactics and such. Considering that we still select skills except for the regular attack, we can still issue orders, we can still manipulate our party's tactics, we can use auto-attack, and we can move the camera around (albeit differently) to survey the field, I fail to see how this game is in any way an action rpg. Unless he means that there's more action that's more exciting, which is great. You can be strategic and excited at the same time.
Ok, now I'll protect myself in case of flying rocks.
*Casts forecefield*
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