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[Sylvius the Mad]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Evil Chris Priestly: *Getting Smacked* Owww... quit it!
David Gaider: *Smack* Never! You correct that statement about the pop-ups.
Priestly: Do I have to?
Gaider: *Smack* Yes. *Smakc*
Priestly: But some of them are true, we did give some of them to Gametrailers.
Gaider: *Pauses* Yes, that is true.
Priestly: I just didn't say that they were also allowed to speculate on other details.
Gaider: Why not?
Priestly: Cuz it is fun to watch them get all confused. I mean, the video clearly shows templars and stuff. Flemeth's new host? I mean, come on!
Gaider: You get in there right now and clarify that so our fans understand that there are some speculation in there amongst the facts. NOW! *WAkka-Smack*
Priestly: Owwwwww. Yes Mr Gaider Sir.


Clearer now? Or do I have to be beaten again?

Thank you.  That's much better.

[Mike Laidlaw]

David Gaider: Keeping your facts vague, but free of deliberate misinformation, since 1997.

[Absafraginlootly]

I'm not convinced that they're either an army of Templars or of Wardens, the shields don't carry either of their heraldry.
It could be just any army wearing plate. Maybe even the army of Kirkwall?

I mean he's got to save them from something other then ONE Quanri to be a champion, even if it's a really tough one, right?

Edit: Sorry, missed the clearer picture someone posted, before that it looked like it could be anyone.

Modifié par Absafraginlootly, 26 août 2010 - 11:16 .

[Brockololly]

Yeah, unless Blur got really lazy or the Wardens got their visual redesign to look EXACTLY like Templars, those are Templars fighting Flemeth's Morrigan Clone army.

[KendallX23]

hey i like this..we tell u info that may not be true info...or maybe it is...well it does lead to more discussion wich is always good...now we have to think which info is actually true and wich is not...but is there anything right ?maybe not...or maybe there is...

[Flamesz]

Is it just me or was there new shots in that trailer of there's compared to other versions of the trailer? Like Hawke firing a lightning bolt out of his staff, i've never seen that in the trailers i've seen before.

[Fangirl17]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Evil Chris Priestly: *Getting Smacked* Owww... quit it!
David Gaider: *Smack* Never! You correct that statement about the pop-ups.
Priestly: Do I have to?
Gaider: *Smack* Yes. *Smakc*
Priestly: But some of them are true, we did give some of them to Gametrailers.
Gaider: *Pauses* Yes, that is true.
Priestly: I just didn't say that they were also allowed to speculate on other details.
Gaider: Why not?
Priestly: Cuz it is fun to watch them get all confused. I mean, the video clearly shows templars and stuff. Flemeth's new host? I mean, come on!
Gaider: You get in there right now and clarify that so our fans understand that there are some speculation in there amongst the facts. NOW! *WAkka-Smack*
Priestly: Owwwwww. Yes Mr Gaider Sir.


Clearer now? Or do I have to be beaten again?

So not all of it is true....
STOP TORTURING ME

[atheelogos]

Brockololly wrote...

Wait..what? So unless BioWare gave Gametrailers bad info to throw us all off , we can confirm the following with DA2 (quoted material is exactly as worded from the trailer):

- Viscount Dumar gets killed during a Qunari invasion of Kirkwall
- A Qunari invasion of Kirkwall occurs
- Flemeth is confirmed
- The Dragon like symbol on Viscount Dumar's cape (the Champion's Mark) is the national symbol of Kirkwall
Dumar's crown is adorned with Falcon's the symbol of his house (hmmm..Hawke, falcons...?)
- The red markings on the Qunari depict a high military rank (whatever happened to armored Qunari?)
- Hawke's mage staff doubles as a melee weapon and magical weapon
-Hawke displays magical skills, searing the Qunari's head with a glyph
- Hawke's carving on his arm is indeed Blood Magic
- Hawke's pirate lady friend is apparnetly Rivaini: "sea-faring people from the North"
- The burning house= "Recollections of the Blight?"
- Picture of Strider- "New Darkspawn types?" (Ok, unless the Strider is actually a darkspwn somehow thats flat out wrong)
- Picture of Flemeth in DA2 outfit- "Flemeth's New Host" (Really?)
- Picture of Templars(?) and Morrigan Clones- "And a battle between the Grey Wardens and a Robed Mage Army"

Basically, if BioWare provided that info, the whole Strider thing is BS seemingly. And Flemeth then seemingly has a new host at the very beginning of DA2- even before the Warden could have killed her? And a host that still looks like an old lady?

And what is the deal with saying those are Wardens fighting robedmages? As has been shown here, they are very very clearly Templars, which makes more sense fighting mages than Wardens. So either Blur really messed up in depicting Wardens or for some bizarre reason Wardens don't fight only darkspawn anymore but fight mages too? Is this just BioWare providing misinformation or another retcon?

"(whatever happened to armored Qunari?)" Well he is a mage and mages tend not to wear armor so yeah.....

[SDNcN]

Depending on the save import, the Origins PC should totally be the commander of the Warden/Templar army.Just saying.

[Tinxa]

Ok so let's speculate what is true info and what is speculation



True:

the man killed IS the vicount and falcons are emblem of his house

the sign on his cape is a simbol of Kirkwall

the qunari is a highranking officer

the staff is a melee and magical weapon

Hawke uses bloodmagic

The woman is a Rivaini



False:

Most of the falshback

the monster is a Strider and not a darkpawn

the army are templars and not GW

the new Flemeth look is not a new host



I don't know about it being a qunari invasion. If it's an invasion why is the officer on his own and wouldn't qunari have to make their way across other Thedas countries before they could threaten the Free marches? I'm more inclined to think this particular qunari is off on his own pursuing his own goals (which may or may not be related to Qunari main goals)

[Brockololly]

Well, come on, those armored guys are clearly Templars not Wardens:

Exhibit A: A Tempar- notice Templar flaming sword symbol on chest.


Exhibit B: Armored guys fighting mages- hey! They have the Templar's flaming sword symbol on their shields and the same sort of robe/fabric at the bottom of their armor as the Templars in Origins!


As for who they're fighting?

Exhibit A: Blur's version of Morrigan from the Sacred Ashes trailer:


Exhibit B: Hmmm... so they're all dressed EXACTLY the same as Sacred Ashes Morrigan and also carrying the same style mage staff as DA2 Flemeth!

[Raydiva]

Ok...is it just me or does Flemeth's 'new host' look like a female Qunari? I know might just be that she's keeping some of her draconic traits but still...

[ankuu]

Raydiva wrote...

Ok...is it just me or does Flemeth's 'new host' look like a female Qunari? I know might just be that she's keeping some of her draconic traits but still...

Yea i thought of that too...i mean she didn't have horns before even tho she could turn into a dragon. And the only ones with horns are qunari...

[Vandicus]

Tinxa wrote...

Ok so let's speculate what is true info and what is speculation

True:
the man killed IS the vicount and falcons are emblem of his house
the sign on his cape is a simbol of Kirkwall
the qunari is a highranking officer
the staff is a melee and magical weapon
Hawke uses bloodmagic
The woman is a Rivaini

False:
Most of the falshback
the monster is a Strider and not a darkpawn
the army are templars and not GW
the new Flemeth look is not a new host

I don't know about it being a qunari invasion. If it's an invasion why is the officer on his own and wouldn't qunari have to make their way across other Thedas countries before they could threaten the Free marches? I'm more inclined to think this particular qunari is off on his own pursuing his own goals (which may or may not be related to Qunari main goals)

I think you're right on all of that but the invasion. As I was talking about to my friend just a few weeks after Dragon Age Awakening, without the darkspawn, there isn't much to threaten life as we know it. Your logic maintains that an officer would need his army behind him. Lets consider several things.

A. We can assume they're in the capital, after all the Viscount and his throne are there.
B. We have no idea if the rest of the capital has an epic battle going on.
C. Hawke just shows up knowing a guy is going to assassinate the Viscount(not in time, conveniently or inconveniently for Hawke)? I think its more likely he's trying to get rid of the commander of the enemy force and Hawke was already participating in the larger battle going around.
D. Qunari officer. Some of information, such as names and meanings of symbols, must be accurate. Why would one randomly speculate about the Viscount's name or rankings related to army color and symbols? A Qunari officer would not be outside Qunari lands without a major invasion going on. They send Stens to do the dirty work of living among humans, elves, and dwarves(let's see who remembers where "Sten" gets his "name" from).
E. The officer is clearly competent enough to kill all the guards and the king without apparent injury or effort. There's no purpose to such a thing unless they were at war.
F. Exiled/outcast Qunari don't have horns.
G. What catapults people to positions of power more quickly than anything else? War.

My most important point is point C, but the rest help support it.

[thenemesis77]

I thought her hair was just in that shape. I think she has to take over someone that is a mage.

[atheelogos]

Raydiva wrote...

Ok...is it just me or does Flemeth's 'new host' look like a female Qunari? I know might just be that she's keeping some of her draconic traits but still...

she looks a little to pale to be a female Qunari.

[Brockololly]

But have you guys seen female Qunari?





That doesn't exactly jive with Flemeth still looking like a slightly sexed up old lady- the whole "horns as hair" thing just is a byproduct of everything in DA2 getting spikes and horns and claws. It just falls more in line with Flemeth's overall new look tapping into her dragon form- the horns and metal tiara linking up to her dragon form, her outfit being the same color and scale like in texture, like a dragon...

[Anarya]

Tinxa wrote...

Ok so let's speculate what is true info and what is speculation

True:
the man killed IS the vicount and falcons are emblem of his house
the sign on his cape is a simbol of Kirkwall
the qunari is a highranking officer
the staff is a melee and magical weapon
Hawke uses bloodmagic
The woman is a Rivaini

False:
Most of the falshback
the monster is a Strider and not a darkpawn
the army are templars and not GW
the new Flemeth look is not a new host

I don't know about it being a qunari invasion. If it's an invasion why is the officer on his own and wouldn't qunari have to make their way across other Thedas countries before they could threaten the Free marches? I'm more inclined to think this particular qunari is off on his own pursuing his own goals (which may or may not be related to Qunari main goals)

Maybe the rest of his squad is down with the other bodies? Or maybe there is a Qunari invasion but it's only one of several things you have to deal with. I mean you had to deal with everyone's problems in Origins, there was a lot going on. Plus a lot can happen in a decade.

[atheelogos]

Brockololly wrote...

But have you guys seen female Qunari?


That doesn't exactly jive with Flemeth still looking like a slightly sexed up old lady- the whole "horns as hair" thing just is a byproduct of everything in DA2 getting spikes and horns and claws. It just falls more in line with Flemeth's overall new look tapping into her dragon form- the horns and metal tiara linking up to her dragon form, her outfit being the same color and scale like in texture, like a dragon...

Yes I have and she has ashen skin. Flemth's skin is pinkish. And those horns of hers are hair not bone.

[Zangler1]

atheelogos wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

But have you guys seen female Qunari?


That doesn't exactly jive with Flemeth still looking like a slightly sexed up old lady- the whole "horns as hair" thing just is a byproduct of everything in DA2 getting spikes and horns and claws. It just falls more in line with Flemeth's overall new look tapping into her dragon form- the horns and metal tiara linking up to her dragon form, her outfit being the same color and scale like in texture, like a dragon...

Yes I have and she has ashen skin. Flemth's skin is pinkish. And those horns of hers are hair not bone.

Also, qunari seem to have pointed ears, whereas Flemeth's are obviously round and human-like.

[Tinxa]

Vandicus wrote...

Tinxa wrote...

Ok so let's speculate what is true info and what is speculation

True:
the man killed IS the vicount and falcons are emblem of his house
the sign on his cape is a simbol of Kirkwall
the qunari is a highranking officer
the staff is a melee and magical weapon
Hawke uses bloodmagic
The woman is a Rivaini

False:
Most of the falshback
the monster is a Strider and not a darkpawn
the army are templars and not GW
the new Flemeth look is not a new host

I don't know about it being a qunari invasion. If it's an invasion why is the officer on his own and wouldn't qunari have to make their way across other Thedas countries before they could threaten the Free marches? I'm more inclined to think this particular qunari is off on his own pursuing his own goals (which may or may not be related to Qunari main goals)

I think you're right on all of that but the invasion. As I was talking about to my friend just a few weeks after Dragon Age Awakening, without the darkspawn, there isn't much to threaten life as we know it. Your logic maintains that an officer would need his army behind him. Lets consider several things.

A. We can assume they're in the capital, after all the Viscount and his throne are there.
B. We have no idea if the rest of the capital has an epic battle going on.
C. Hawke just shows up knowing a guy is going to assassinate the Viscount(not in time, conveniently or inconveniently for Hawke)? I think its more likely he's trying to get rid of the commander of the enemy force and Hawke was already participating in the larger battle going around.
D. Qunari officer. Some of information, such as names and meanings of symbols, must be accurate. Why would one randomly speculate about the Viscount's name or rankings related to army color and symbols? A Qunari officer would not be outside Qunari lands without a major invasion going on. They send Stens to do the dirty work of living among humans, elves, and dwarves(let's see who remembers where "Sten" gets his "name" from).
E. The officer is clearly competent enough to kill all the guards and the king without apparent injury or effort. There's no purpose to such a thing unless they were at war.
F. Exiled/outcast Qunari don't have horns.
G. What catapults people to positions of power more quickly than anything else? War.

My most important point is point C, but the rest help support it.

Maybe you're right, but the qunari invasion plotline just doesn't seem right to me. It's just a feeling I have more that anything else.
It doesn't make sense the game would revolve around 2 very different major conflicts: mages vs. templars AND a qunari invasion.
Kirkwall is very far away from the qunari, if Bioware wanted to make a game about the qunari invasion why not set it in Tevinter.
The qunari in the video could be an individual with his own agenda. At some point he was a qunari officer but he could be doing his own thing now and doesn't consider himself to be one of the outcasts so he didn't cut his horns. The killing of the viscount is just part of this particular qunari's plan. He's a qunari version of Saren.

[phaonica]

Maybe the qunari are an dragon-person-hybrid race.

[OriginsIsBest]

I have said this before...and I will say it again...

HOLY SH*T LOOK AT BETHANY'S BONGOS!

I'm so playing as a female.

Modifié par OriginsIsBest, 27 août 2010 - 01:17 .

[WingsandRings]

OriginsIsBest wrote...



I have said this before...and I will say it again...

HOLY SH*T LOOK AT BETHANY'S BONGOS!

I'm so playing as a female.

Ugh. And to think that YOU are the type of person Bioware markets for.

[OriginsIsBest]

WingsandRings wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...



I have said this before...and I will say it again...

HOLY SH*T LOOK AT BETHANY'S BONGOS!

I'm so playing as a female.

Ugh. And to think that YOU are the type of person Bioware markets for.

 Hey! Don't hate the player ...hate the game

BioWare was the ones who made them like that.