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Will gender have any significant effect in the Origin stories.


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Azz505UK

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I'm just curious as to how big a change the Origin stories and the main story has depending on what gender you pick for your character. Do you think it will change how the characters react to you and effect choices you make in a big way.

I'm asking this because in most games there isen't much of a different except for a tiny change in dialog or non at all. Anyway, what do you think?

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Herr Uhl

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In the city elf one, yes

In the dwarven noble one, yes

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Lifter82

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Other than switched roles in the city elf wedding, I don´t think there are major differences

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Curry Noodles

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I'd imagine the biggest difference would be in the dwarf commoner.



*light spoilers?*







Meaning why are you not a noble hunter like your sister? Maybe NPCs go around calling you ugly and fat or something like that. It'd be pretty amusing.

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LdyShayna

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It will be more than just a few pronoun changes in a couple of the origins, definitely. Is it enough that you would consider it significant? I have no idea. :)


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Mark Darrah: People will definitely react to you differently based upon your gender. Some origins, in fact, will play out VERY differently. I won't reveal more now.





So yes it does.

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Azz505UK

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[Comment From CeliesCelies: ]
Whata diffrences are there in the Origins if you play as a male or female?
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Mark Darrah: People will definately react to you differently based upon your gender. Some origins, in fact, will play out VERY differently. I won't reveal more now. Friday October 23, 2009 7:55 Mark Darrah.
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Just found this while i was reading through the live blog... Looks like someone beat me to it. Posted Image

Modifié par Azz505UK, 23 octobre 2009 - 08:48 .


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I'm generally extremely wary about gender-based differences because often they mean the female is harassed or complimented for her "beauty" while the male gets compliments for his skill and brawn, and I loathe that. I want my gals to be complimented for kicking arse too!

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Inquisitor Of Shadowz wrote...

Mark Darrah: People will definitely react to you differently based upon your gender. Some origins, in fact, will play out VERY differently. I won't reveal more now.


So yes it does.


Dammit, now I'm gonna have to make more characters.

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SPOILER



If you are a female city elf. You will be imprisoned and breaking out. If you are a male City elf you will be breaking in.

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The important thing to note is that the origin stories are like prologues. So while there will be significant differences inside that prologue afterwards most likely major changes will be reliant on your original origin, but even then won't be too much.

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Go watch the dwarven noble and city elf videos on youtube, the ones where it shows like a 3 minute snippet of the origins. That's the difference. I doubt there'll be a huge difference outside of the origins, however. They'll just refer to you as 'Warden,' just like in Mass Effect they refer to you as 'Commander Shepherd.' Gender-neutral titles ftw.

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No big differences.Everything will be close to the same.

The city elf you still end up making the same choices as the male.The story is different slightly.

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Bebbe777 wrote...

SPOILER

If you are a female city elf. You will be imprisoned and breaking out. If you are a male City elf you will be breaking in.


I can't find any videos of a male city elf origin. It seems to be all female in the teasers. Are you sure the male elf is not also breaking out?

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That would be a huge breaking of immersion.



Just why do you think the humans are kidnapping the female elves?

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Inquisitor Of Shadowz wrote...

Mark Darrah: People will definitely react to you differently based upon your gender. Some origins, in fact, will play out VERY differently. I won't reveal more now.


So yes it does.


I wasn't expecting that. After all, many male gamers won't see the female character's perspective.(As I wouldn't have either if I didn't read this) Guess I'll go ahead and make a female, at least for replay.:D

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Jonp382 wrote...
I wasn't expecting that. After all, many male gamers won't see the female character's perspective.(As I wouldn't have either if I didn't read this) Guess I'll go ahead and make a female, at least for replay.:D


A lot more male gamers play female characters than vice-versa. At least in MMOs. Dunno for sure if that carries over to single-player, where the whole "guys treat me better and give me stuff if I'm hot" motivation doesn't apply :P

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Xyan wrote...

Bebbe777 wrote...

SPOILER

If you are a female city elf. You will be imprisoned and breaking out. If you are a male City elf you will be breaking in.


I can't find any videos of a male city elf origin. It seems to be all female in the teasers. Are you sure the male elf is not also breaking out?


*spoiler*

Yes, because it is an "evil" human noble who is stealing the women from the wedding. If you play as a female, then you get taken to essentially be raped along with the other women nearby. If you are a man, I assume you get knocked out and then have to go rescue the women that were at the wedding.

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Jab0r wrote...

That would be a huge breaking of immersion.

Just why do you think the humans are kidnapping the female elves?


It's not female elves it's you (or your fiance' respectively) that one human wants, the local lord. From the descriptions I've seen his motivations aren't clear but it does seem pretty clear that the female elf in particular is what he's after. Maybe I'm wrong but thats the impression I've gotten. 

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Korva wrote...

I'm generally extremely wary about gender-based differences because often they mean the female is harassed or complimented for her "beauty" while the male gets compliments for his skill and brawn, and I loathe that. I want my gals to be complimented for kicking arse too!


Well, at the least you may wish to avoid the city elf one.  Not that anyone will doubt you're an ass-kicker by the end of it. 

*spoiler*


although I do think the female run through is preferable as a city elf.  Much more impact, since you're the one in danger of being raped, and rescuing yourself is more interesting than standard damsel in distress.  Besides, who doesn't want to go on a rampage wearing a bloody wedding dress?

Modifié par Taritu, 24 octobre 2009 - 06:48 .


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Riot Inducer wrote...

Jab0r wrote...

That would be a huge breaking of immersion.

Just why do you think the humans are kidnapping the female elves?


It's not female elves it's you (or your fiance' respectively) that one human wants, the local lord. From the descriptions I've seen his motivations aren't clear but it does seem pretty clear that the female elf in particular is what he's after. Maybe I'm wrong but thats the impression I've gotten. 


He kidnaps most of the young attractive women at the wedding actually, not just you, or your fiance if you play as a man.

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damn my bad, the description is a bit off then (at least the one in the cc) def seems to imply the bride was the target and no one else

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I mean... male elfs are also elf..



You did mention an evil human noble kidnapped the lot. And we know "evil" men can have very unusual hobby. *shrug*



Maybe he round up all the male elfs if you are playing a male?

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Jab0r wrote...

Just why do you think the humans are kidnapping the female elves?


To rape them.

Why do you think the humans wouldn't want a male elf for that?

Xyan wrote...

You did mention an evil human noble kidnapped the lot. And we know "evil" men can have very unusual hobby. *shrug*


This is correct. Society forcuses on rape as a crime of passion, but there's ample evidence of it happening without desire. The majority of people who assult child or the elderly don't find them sexy, they just really enjoy hurting someone so powerless.

Imagine there's a human noble that hates elves. He heads to the alienage, finds the biggest, strongest elven male, and then brings that elf to his estate to torture and violate.

The human noble doesn't have to find that elf attractive; he just has to enjoy the utter power he has over the elves.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 24 octobre 2009 - 02:19 .


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Fine Ill go find the one damn vid that shows the males breaking in just to stop this stupidity.