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[raven_corrino]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

And the I want to see Joker as a squadmate for ME3.

Not a good idea.. He can't really do much to help in a straight fight. When you controlled him during the collector attack, you could see he was limping. This will hinder Shepard's progress if he were to add Joker to his squad. He could use a rifle to fend off the collectors, but that was in a stationary position, not running around shooting people or things. He's better off piloting the ship IMO.

[AresXX7]

shnellegaming wrote...

Bah, Joker is all EDI's!!!!

LOL
as funny as it sounds, to see Joker trying to get busy while avoiding injury
I doubt EDI would approve

[raven_corrino]

AriesXX7 wrote...

LOL
as funny as it sounds, to see Joker trying to get busy while avoiding injury
I doubt EDI would approve

Yeah and she will most likely interrupt him and Shepard the same way Joker interrupted Shep and his/her LI from ME1, when the Normandy got grounded.

[JowyXXV]

"LI?"



Btw, I think it's past time Seth Green did a Mass Effect Robot Chicken episode!

[DeepWater]

JowyXXV wrote...

"LI?"

Btw, I think it's past time Seth Green did a Mass Effect Robot Chicken episode!

That won't happen. If you exploit something you work on in a different project, you're going to have some finger wagging. I'd much rather see Joker in the next game than have Seth fired. Because we would be left with some stupid explanation of why he died.
Besides which, Futurama already ruined the aspect of spoofing Mass Effect.

[PsyrenY]

JowyXXV wrote...

Heavy Bone Weave, nuff said.

I'm pretty sure he already has that. How else would he be able to jog around the Normandy/run to the airlock with an AR to cover Shepard? How else did he survive getting knocked to the hard metal floor when EDI threw the ship into FTL during the Collector attack?

Sure, it makes normal bones unbreakable - but Joker's bones aren't normal. If they really had an easy cure for Vrolik's Syndrome like that, why would  Dr. Chakwas say "Jeff will always need my help?" I think the doc knows what she's talking about.

[CottonBALL]

AriesXX7 wrote...

shnellegaming wrote...

Bah, Joker is all EDI's!!!!

LOL
as funny as it sounds, to see Joker trying to get busy while avoiding injury
I doubt EDI would approve

EDI is into Joker. See?

[JowyXXV]

Don't forget, Heavy Bone Weave is prototype research- it didn't really exist prior to Mordin building it in a lab for Shep if you invested the resources.

[JowyXXV]

So how do fangirls feel about Joker anyway?

[JowyXXV]

Ah.



One last remark-



on the bonus dvd Joker talks about how he's been begging Bioware to give him some romance screen time and he fusses that all he gets is a "disembodied voice" in EDI.



So, we know from the bonus dvd that....



A. Joker has probably cybered w/ EDI in some futuristic way....

B. Seth Green really wants to have a real romance in the game going and he keeps nagging Bioware about it.

C. His bones are still brittle.



It IS possible that Heavy Bone Weave (or it's best equivalent) was already placed in Joker by TiM, as the tech blueprint exists prior to ME2, but given that Mordin does the tech building it remains unknown- plus his bones aren't exactly "unbreakable" at this stage.



Maybe if Mordin's in the sequel Joker can have strong bones but if not then Joker's got weak bones.

[thetruefreemo]

No he'd brake a bone. Lol

[CottonBALL]

thetruefreemo wrote...

No he'd brake a bone. Lol

that's one reason why it would be so exciting

[Topographer]

[upsettingshorts]

PWENER wrote...

It's not a plothole. Cerberus genetically reinforces his legs. It's that simple. No plotholes. I believe not explaining it is better. They bring a person back from the dead but can't help a cripple? C'mon...

Technically it is a plot hole if we have to make an assumption - however reasonable - to explain a break in continuity.  It's a minor one, though. 

For all the things in the game that get incorrectly labeled as plot holes either because people misidentify plot devices or just like to label things they don't like with terms they don't understand - we ought to call a spade a spade when we see one.

[JowyXXV]

Doesn't Seth Green have email/Twitter?

Someone should just contact him and show him this topic and ask, "hey, were your bones reinforced at all for ME2 which is why we saw you semi-running during that one attack?"



http://www.fanmail.biz/748.html

http://www.sethgreenonline.com/ask.php

[Tazzmission]

it would be cool but how would it work if he has brittal bones?

[TheShadowmancer]

Out of everyone I would not think that women would be attracted to joker but hey...Whatever floats your boat!

[JowyXXV]

Have ya read the topic?



Synthetic Bone Weave! Research it and Shep's bones can become "almost unbreakable".

[Heavensrun]

PWENER wrote...

It's not a plothole. Cerberus genetically reinforces his legs. It's that simple. No plotholes. I believe not explaining it is better. They bring a person back from the dead but can't help a cripple? C'mon...

And why would it be worth their money?  Shepard is the savior of the galaxy.  Joker's a pilot who pilots just as well with brittle bones as he would with any kind of special technology.

At no point do they say they reinforced his legs, genetically or otherwise.  And contrary to your...enthusiastic claims, there is no point in the first mass Effect where he says he can't walk.  I've played it over a dozen times, and I rarely skip dialogue, especially Joker's.  He says he has to be careful going to the bathroom, he mentions crutches, but he never says he can't walk without them, and honestly, he doesn't strike me as the sort that would use crutches if he could get away with it, even if he probably should.

Seriously, given the copious loads of extraneous information about asari culture they dump on us in the Codex, do you -really- think something as important as curing the disability of a main supporting cast member would pass without so much as an explanation?

[Heavensrun]

Heavensrun wrote...

PWENER wrote...

It's not a plothole. Cerberus genetically reinforces his legs. It's that simple. No plotholes. I believe not explaining it is better. They bring a person back from the dead but can't help a cripple? C'mon...

And why would it be worth their money?  Shepard is the savior of the galaxy.  Joker's a pilot who pilots just as well with brittle bones as he would with any kind of special technology.

At no point do they say they reinforced his legs, genetically or otherwise.  And contrary to your...enthusiastic claims, there is no point in the first mass Effect where he says he can't walk.  I've played it over a dozen times, and I rarely skip dialogue, especially Joker's.  He says he has to be careful going to the bathroom, he mentions crutches, but he never says he can't walk without them, and honestly, he doesn't strike me as the sort that would use crutches if he could get away with it, even if he probably should.

Seriously, given the copious loads of extraneous information about asari culture they dump on us in the Codex, do you -really- think something as important as curing the disability of a main supporting cast member would pass without so much as an explanation?

Also, as an aside, how much of an insult is it to people with actual brittle bone disease that the prevailing attitude in this topic seems to be "Whaaaat?  How silly to suggest that a person with a disability could have sex without magic future space technology!  Clearly there is no reason for Joker to be romanced without the Heavy Bone Weaves!  Next thing you know they'll be trying to convince us that a romance with a terminally ill person can be rewarding and worthwhile!"

[JowyXXV]

Hey, sorry to offend ya if you got brittle bones disease.

It's just that the dialogue makes it sound like virtually any amount of pressure would crush Joker's bones- I'm not really sure how sex w/ someone w/ brittle bones would work out anyway....

Thing is though, regardless of his status, healing his brittle bones would make Joker into a more viable romance option.  And given that Heavy Bone Weave is now an option it seems odd that female Shep would romance Joker while refusing to heal him when healing him is a perfectly viable option. (depending on if HBW would work on Joker w/ his condition)

[Phaedon]

He also received an upgrade for his legs that allows him to walk on his own, albeit with some difficulty.

ME Wiki said so, so it has to be right.

[PWENER]

Heavensrun wrote...

Heavensrun wrote...

PWENER wrote...

It's not a plothole. Cerberus genetically reinforces his legs. It's that simple. No plotholes. I believe not explaining it is better. They bring a person back from the dead but can't help a cripple? C'mon...

And why would it be worth their money?  Shepard is the savior of the galaxy.  Joker's a pilot who pilots just as well with brittle bones as he would with any kind of special technology.

At no point do they say they reinforced his legs, genetically or otherwise.  And contrary to your...enthusiastic claims, there is no point in the first mass Effect where he says he can't walk.  I've played it over a dozen times, and I rarely skip dialogue, especially Joker's.  He says he has to be careful going to the bathroom, he mentions crutches, but he never says he can't walk without them, and honestly, he doesn't strike me as the sort that would use crutches if he could get away with it, even if he probably should.

Seriously, given the copious loads of extraneous information about asari culture they dump on us in the Codex, do you -really- think something as important as curing the disability of a main supporting cast member would pass without so much as an explanation?

Also, as an aside, how much of an insult is it to people with actual brittle bone disease that the prevailing attitude in this topic seems to be "Whaaaat?  How silly to suggest that a person with a disability could have sex without magic future space technology!  Clearly there is no reason for Joker to be romanced without the Heavy Bone Weaves!  Next thing you know they'll be trying to convince us that a romance with a terminally ill person can be rewarding and worthwhile!"

You dumb broad, if it wasn't for TIM reinforcing his bones, the FIRIGGIN NORMANDY would have been lost.

Did you even play the game? What dumb broad this girl is.

[Heavensrun]

JowyXXV wrote...

Hey, sorry to offend ya if you got brittle bones disease.

It's just that the dialogue makes it sound like virtually any amount of pressure would crush Joker's bones- I'm not really sure how sex w/ someone w/ brittle bones would work out anyway....

Thing is though, regardless of his status, healing his brittle bones would make Joker into a more viable romance option.  And given that Heavy Bone Weave is now an option it seems odd that female Shep would romance Joker while refusing to heal him when healing him is a perfectly viable option. (depending on if HBW would work on Joker w/ his condition)

(shrug)  I don't -have- brittle bones disease, but there are people with the condition who go on to lead happy, productive lives, including romance and sex.  For one thing, Joker only suffers from a mild case, (type 1) as evidenced by the fact that he can walk, that his bones aren't visibly deformed, and, y'know, that whole "living past childhood" thing.  He took a rather rough topple backward at one point in the game, and suffered only -possible- minor stress fractures that didn't even keep him from flying the ship.  He can withstand enough impact to have sex, as long as nobody's doing anything particularly freaky or dangerous.  His bones are not thin glass, they're just more fragile than yours or mine.

And we don't really know that healing him -is- a viable option.  Shepard is pretty much half machine already, and we're performing upgrades on her bionic components.  That isn't a process that would nessecarily work on someone with Joker's condition, and that's even assuming that the "Heavy Bone Weave" actually exists in the game universe, and isn't just a pseudo lore-ish name for "+2 constitution".  I mean, does it really seem viable, anyway, that all throughout the course of Mass Effect 2, Shepard was undergoing major cybernetic reconstructive surgery in the downtime between missions?

Anyway, the gist of my point being, Joker is (physically) sexable.  If there's any impediment to a Shep romance with Joker, it's more likely to be his personality than his condition, since it's clear he likes to keep people at arms length.

[PWENER]

Get your research right next time sweety.