[quote]the.gray.fox wrote...
Hello.
I disagree.
Why not choose Lord Nasher, then?
Nasher was infected by the plague.
Aribeth was not.
Nasher was not influenced by Morag.
Aribeth was.
How do you explain this?[/QUOTE]
It isn't about the plague though. Morag didn't choose Aribeth because she was genuinly weak, but because she had been traumitised by Fenthick's death (which was perfect for her as she would want help). Also, Nasher was probably too old to be of much use to Morag, since Aribeth would no doubt have been more capable in combat.[/QUOTE]
[quote]the.gray.fox wrote...Aribeth was vulnerable. And she needed a push.
But eventually she embraced this Evil as well.
She was no puppet. She acted on her own volition, and she did it to exact her revenge.
She knew Morag was Evil. She did not care. Aribeth wanted vengeance. Morag promised vengeance.
Aribeth wanted it, Morag granted it.
Aribeth mind was driven by 1 single purpose: to see Neverwinter drowned in its blood.
She could accept any fate thereafter, so as long as her wish was satisfied.
Morag took advantage of it.[/QUOTE]
If Aribeth embraced evil, then why did she want to stop the plague and find the cult? Why did she regret her reactions once you beat her down and successfully talked to her in order to look past Morag's spell?
Aribeth's Fate?
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#27
Posté 30 septembre 2010 - 11:58
The RealArchAngel
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Never cared for Neverwinter as my PCs always seem to get in trouble there
Stumbling into Neverwinter then getting trapped in it cause of a plague is just the latest example...lol
Aribeth was was executed if your PC offered her a chance to surrender and she took it,plain and simple
It is what causes your PC to leave Neverwinter Disgusted with Nasher and the city (Linu? mentions this in HOTU) which is why you need to make a new character for SOU
As far as Aribeth's action her god was the god of Justice and there was no justice in tNeverwinter executing a innocent man for association...if anything she temporarily became a "Heritic Blackgaurd" in trying to punnish Neverwinter for their sin of Injustice under Morgue influsence
Stumbling into Neverwinter then getting trapped in it cause of a plague is just the latest example...lol
Aribeth was was executed if your PC offered her a chance to surrender and she took it,plain and simple
It is what causes your PC to leave Neverwinter Disgusted with Nasher and the city (Linu? mentions this in HOTU) which is why you need to make a new character for SOU
As far as Aribeth's action her god was the god of Justice and there was no justice in tNeverwinter executing a innocent man for association...if anything she temporarily became a "Heritic Blackgaurd" in trying to punnish Neverwinter for their sin of Injustice under Morgue influsence
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Posté 01 octobre 2010 - 04:43
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For me Aribeth´s fate was a WTF. Her fianceé is executed as a traitor for being too anive and trusting just so Nasher can save face, then she has a crysis of faith that allows Morag to brainwash/mindrape her, and after I managed to bring her back not only does Nasher execute her (something my OC would have killed him for), but her soul ends in hell? Tyr is a jerkass of a god indeed. Hope he got killed in one of those retcons the FR go every other year.
Or was it an homage to the Dark Phoenix saga? let´s kill a character because we can´t allow a mass murderer despite being (temporarily) corrupted by outside forces.
Or was it an homage to the Dark Phoenix saga? let´s kill a character because we can´t allow a mass murderer despite being (temporarily) corrupted by outside forces.
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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 04:20
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Nerevar-as wrote...
For me Aribeth´s fate was a WTF. Her fianceé is executed as a traitor for being too anive and trusting just so Nasher can save face, then she has a crysis of faith that allows Morag to brainwash/mindrape her, and after I managed to bring her back not only does Nasher execute her (something my OC would have killed him for), but her soul ends in hell? Tyr is a jerkass of a god indeed. Hope he got killed in one of those retcons the FR go every other year.
Or was it an homage to the Dark Phoenix saga? let´s kill a character because we can´t allow a mass murderer despite being (temporarily) corrupted by outside forces.
Yeah, that's pretty much how HotU ruined it.
In order for Bioware to continue with Aribeth's story, they had to cater to those characters who killed her in Maugrim's estate.
They couldn't continue the story from where I left off, with a hopeful Aribeth in Castle Never's dungeon and with a somewhat remorseful Lord Nasher.
In HotU they had to follow the path where she died, for all characters, else they rewrite and ruin the story for many, e.g. 'whatta ya mean her life was spared? I killed the *** in Maugrim's estate!" (Don't want to rile up that crowd now, do we?)
They left the backstory vague, but let it be known that she died in some fashion. But if you're going to be a stickler for story, she isn't the same character in HotU as she was in NWN. Her history is different and he race is different. I prefer to omit HotU from any discussion of Aribeth's fate, it isn't justified.
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Posté 02 octobre 2010 - 06:20
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Poecile wrote...
They left the backstory vague, but let it be known that she died in some fashion. But if you're going to be a stickler for story, she isn't the same character in HotU as she was in NWN. Her history is different and he race is different. I prefer to omit HotU from any discussion of Aribeth's fate, it isn't justified.
I can see Nasher having her killed, but having her soul in hell has no excuse, they simply didn´t think it through when the game was written. Tyr was LG I think, and she was brainwashed.
We can always retcon it to the part of her soul that got corrupted under the spell, or something like that.
I think the PC in HotU should have been the OC one, it has the former companions after all. Back then there was no feeling of friendship between characters, but even then it felt disconnected.
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Posté 12 octobre 2010 - 04:12
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Who said Tyr was the one that put her in hell?I can see Nasher having her killed, but having her soul in hell has no excuse, they simply didn´t think it through when the game was written. Tyr was LG I think, and she was brainwashed.
We can always retcon it to the part of her soul that got corrupted under the spell, or something like that.
Remember things are always kind of ify in the Fugue Plane and she might have chosen the offer to go to hell instead of face Tyr's judement from one of the devils petitioning the souls waiting
And the reason she was in her perdicument was because she was standing up to Big M...but Big M just didn't just kill her and asorb her energy like any true "dammed"...why(hint,she was a potential "Devil" recruit)
In the ending of HOTU (with my PC encouraging her to be good) she first became a "gaurdian spirit" of Neverwinter comforting the sick and dying until one day Tyr Himself came to take here with future sightings of Tyr in Neverwinter always having Aribeth on his right side(rollseyes)
