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Is it possible Hawke is Duncan's son?


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Sorry if there's another thread already. Searched but didn't find anything.

Duncan had a rather colourful past, and he easily could have had a child before even becoming a Grey Warden. And, judging by his encounter with the mage in the tower in The Calling, he continued to pursue the ladies even after the joining, so it could have even happened after. He would not have necessarily even known about it. I was thinking about this and how it would be neat, but probably unlikely, until I looked at the default Hawke screenshots and then back at Duncan and realized they look rather similar... Though perhaps, that's just me. And it could also simply be that the designers like the look of rugged, beardly men. But, perhaps it was intentional?

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DarthRevan4life

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They do look pretty similar I'll give you that. I would assume though Duncan would have made some mention of having a son...unless he just didn't know about it as his life was all about being a Grey Warden?

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Danjaru

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It would be a rather poor plot twist tbh.

And haven't Hawke's family been shown? Or was it just his sister and mother?

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Eh, I'm not so sure they look similar, other than the fact that they both have beards.



And I really don't think Hawke should be Duncan's son/daughter. I remember during the lead up to ME2 all the speculation about whether Aria was Liara's father, or if Jack was Gillian from Ascension. Why can't new characters just be new characters?

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DarthRevan4life wrote...

They do look pretty similar I'll give you that. I would assume though Duncan would have made some mention of having a son...unless he just didn't know about it as his life was all about being a Grey Warden?


So it's not just me! :o:P

Given how much he was travelling around, he may have not even known whether he ever got anyone preggers or not.  It could have even been the mage from the tower. Or he may have simply not thought it worth mentioning. As you said, his life became all about being a Grey Warden, perhaps he never saw any family as being a part of his life anymore. He never mentioned Alistair's parentage either. Maybe he just thought the Blight comes first, and it was better for any children he had to simply grow up happy without him.

Danjaru wrote...

It would be a rather poor plot twist tbh.
And haven't Hawke's family been shown? Or was it just his sister and mother?


I don't know, I would think it was kind of fitting if Duncan is the tie that binds Origins to the sequel, or at least one of them. He was the tie that bound all of the origins together to begin with. And as far as I know, only his siblings and mother have been shown. I haven't heard anything about his father, though I could be mistaken.

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I believe the term character assassination is apt if this turned out to be true.

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I could see it. I'd actually quite like it as well.

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ErichHartmann

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Duncan has the aura of a warrior monk who abandoned the idea of having a family.

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Schwadragon wrote...

Why can't new characters just be new characters?


People could have said the same about Alistair's father being who he was. Because sometimes there are valid reasons for a new character to be connected to an old one?

ErichHartmann wrote...

Duncan has the aura of a warrior monk who abandoned the idea of having a family.


Like Samara? :wub::P She had children as well before committing to her new responsabilities. I could see it being similar... different reasons, of course.

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Hawke has a sister brother and mother.

Father is unknown and could indeed be duncan and his fling.

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Beard is not a genetic trait. :lol: Change his hair color and take away his beard, and you wouldn't think so.

Modifié par Saibh, 27 août 2010 - 08:30 .


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The beard kinda gives it away.

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I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, but I just think that BioWare's idea of "manly and awesome" is a rugged beard.

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Lord Gremlin

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Well, since Hawke's default appearance means nothing... No, of course not.

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Possible. I´d like it, it would make me like Hawke much more.

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Saibh wrote...

Beard is not a genetic trait. :lol: Change his hair color and take away his beard, and you wouldn't think so.

Well, to be fair, my father cannot grow a full beard and neither can I, so if the opposite is true then it is at least some very loose evidence.

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Soon this thread will be about genetics

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Maverick827 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Beard is not a genetic trait. :lol: Change his hair color and take away his beard, and you wouldn't think so.

Well, to be fair, my father cannot grow a full beard and neither can I, so if the opposite is true then it is at least some very loose evidence.


Of course beards are genetic. So far every daughter of a beardless woman has been unable to grow a beard, and every son of a bearded man has had to shave or he´ll end up with a beard too.

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Maverick827 wrote...

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, but I just think that BioWare's idea of "manly and awesome" is a rugged beard.


If these forums area any indication, I think everyone's idea of manly and awesome is a rugged beard. :lol:


And I know that Hawke can look like anyone. My Hawke will be female and thus, hopefully as she's not a dwarf, not have a beard at all. I just thought maybe there was a reason why the designers made Hawke's default look so similar.

If Hawke was aware of who his parent was, and it was in fact, Duncan, it could create and interesting dynamic if Hawke ever encountered any Wardens. Does he resent the father that was never there, and so despises the Wardens? Or does he worship his hero father, and so respect and adore the Wardens? Could be a neat way to roleplay your character.

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Maverick827 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Beard is not a genetic trait. :lol: Change his hair color and take away his beard, and you wouldn't think so.

Well, to be fair, my father cannot grow a full beard and neither can I, so if the opposite is true then it is at least some very loose evidence.


I meant babes do not spring forth from their mother's wombs fully bearded. The mere presence of it does not suggest his heritage, and it seems to be the hair color and beard that makes people see the correlation between all dark-haired bearded men.

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Captain Hex wrote...

Schwadragon wrote...

Why can't new characters just be new characters?


People could have said the same about Alistair's father being who he was. Because sometimes there are valid reasons for a new character to be connected to an old one?


Sure, that's true. Maybe I overstated when I said that Hawke absolutely shouldn't be Duncan's child. If they made that important to the plot somehow, that could be okay. I would mostly object if Hawke was Duncan's child for no reason other than to have a connection to DA:O.

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Hawke is not a Grey Warden. Children of Grey Wardens carry the taint of a Grey Warden; therefore, they too are Grey Wardens by default. The only way Hawke will become a Grey Warden is if he chooses to become one. I doubt that will be an option. I doubt his life is meant to be snuffed out so quickly. Grey Wardens live and die on the fast track.

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Zevais wrote...

Hawke is not a Grey Warden. Children of Grey Wardens carry the taint of a Grey Warden; therefore, they too are Grey Wardens by default.

Wrong

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Duncan Hawke... sounds pretty nasty to me...

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Anything's possible I suppose. This would go in my 'higly improbable' basket though.