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[War Houndoom]

Over the past couple of days there have been some interesting cerberus news articles about a ghost ship with a virtual world inside it holding about a billion lives that are guarded and watched over by an A.I.. However the ship is in danger due to a critical power failure and with out help the virtual world will be destroyed.

Article 1.

The scientific community is abuzz today after the latest report from MIT exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler was filed last night from the Antilin System, where he’s currently investigating a mysterious “ghost ship.” Claiming a breakthrough, Detweiler writes, “What I’ve discovered is nothing short of astonishing: This so-called derelict ship isn’t derelict at all. It appears that an alien race has downloaded its consciousness to a massive array of quantum computers onboard the vessel. It’s my belief these aliens now reside entirely in a virtual world and have been there for at least 8,000 years.” Detweiler estimates the population of the virtual world numbers close to one billion individuals. He explains: “The ship’s AI is something of a caretaker to these people, or even a god depending on how you look at it. More importantly, the AI is now requesting our help. It says a power failure is imminent and threatens the entire virtual civilization.”

Article 2.

Opinions were plentiful this week after MIT’s Jordan Detweiler stunned the scientific world when he revealed the existence of a virtual alien civilization residing in a derelict “ghost ship.” Niran Patalung, a Buddhist scholar at the Center for Religious Studies in Bangkok, said, “I’m struck by the parallels to ancient human beliefs in reincarnation. Clearly, life does not end for these aliens when they ‘die.’ Their souls, if you will, simply re-inhabit other virtual personalities and continue living.” Thomas Copeland, spokesman for an Earth-based atheist group, disagreed: “That’s true until you pull the plug. Then what? All these ‘souls’ just wink out, that’s what. Those who would latch onto this incident as proof of some higher level of existence are simply projecting their own wishful thinking onto digital noise.” Mr. Patalung replied: “One man’s noise is another man’s music. Perhaps in his next life, Mr. Copeland will be less tone-deaf.”

Article 3.

The galaxy remains riveted to the ongoing saga of the AI-driven “ghost ship,” now in danger of perishing because of dwindling energy reserves. Evolutionary biologists have jumped into the fray, with one claiming the extinction of the virtual alien race is the natural order of things. “Face it,” turian scientist Elgus Paramon argued, “these aliens were clever, but they weren’t clever enough to build a better battery. Their lack of foresight is a failure to adapt to changing conditions. Their species represents an evolutionary dead-end, and their civilization should be allowed to perish.” Responding, the chief exo-biologist investigating the ship, Jordan Detweiler, said “Mr. Paramon would have us commit genocide by turning a blind eye to the situation. We can save this civilization. The power requirements to preserve their virtual word are manageable.” The matter is now being referred to the Citadel Council for further consideration.

Article 4.

With time running out, no decision has yet been reached in the case of the alien “ghost ship” found drifting in salarian space. Exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler estimates the energy reserves currently powering the virtual alien world are down to 4% and will fail soon. Meanwhile, opportunistic explorers boarded the ship last night and managed to hack into the virtual civilization. Before they were caught, the hackers spent six hours interfaced with the ship’s computers. In that relatively short period of time, it appears that some 180 years passed within the virtual world. Both hackers are currently in deep comas and doctors are unsure as to their recovery. “The interface was too much for their systems to absorb. Trying to re-connect their minds to their bodies after being “away” for so long mentally was too large a shock. Physically they’re fine, but I’d wager scrambled eggs have more consciousness.”

Article 5.

The saga of the alien “ghost ship” has come to a surprising end. Earlier today, reports surfaced that the Citadel Council was prepared to rule against saving the ship, fearing its AI system was sophisticated enough to pose a “security threat of unknown dimensions.” In response, chief scientist Jordan Detweiler inserted himself into the virtual alien world to warn its citizens of their civilization’s imminent end. He returned one minute later — apparently equal to half a year within the accelerated timeline of the alien world — bringing a treaty offer from its inhabitants. At that point, details turn sketchy. One inside source claims the virtual aliens offered scientific advancements “far beyond anything we have” in return for assistance. A veil of secrecy was immediately erected, with Citadel intelligence agencies classifying the matter as top-secret. Rumors now have Jordan Detweiler embarking on a Council-sanctioned mission into the virtual world to make diplomatic contact.

I find this all to be very interesting and wonder if this will have impact on the major storyline?

[I_am_a_Spoon]

Who knows?



It definitely gets you thinking though.

[War Houndoom]

My question is, if they save it how will they protect it? I can't imagine the implications there would be if the geth got ahold of the ship and that data.

[Jzadek72]

Possibly did it to escape from the Reapers? Because that could be useful.

[I_am_a_Spoon]

I'm guessing that the Council would recover the "database" and AI for research.



Information recovered by technicians could revolutionise AI technologies, and carry significant implications regarding the general advancement of science.



The whole situation could have major ethical and religious implications too.

[Eradyn]

...Makes me want to have my Shep go rogue and flip the bird to both Cerberus and the Council. Not going to happen...but oh well.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Gotta love the Council... sheesh...

[Palladium_876]

War Houndoom wrote...

My question is, if they save it how will they protect it? I can't imagine the implications there would be if the geth got ahold of the ship and that data.

I doubt that they would use it for sinister purposes.

[Zan51]

Very interesting and has overtones of Vigil looking after the Protheans in cryo. I wonder if this might be another group of Prothean scientists escaped from cryo? Be fascinating if it was, given they are the only civilization we know of that has developed any way to counter the Reapers at all, albeit it after they harvested the galaxy last time.

[Homebound]

War Houndoom wrote...

Over the past couple of days there have been some interesting cerberus news articles about a ghost ship with a virtual world inside it holding about a billion lives that are guarded and watched over by an A.I.. However the ship is in danger due to a critical power failure and with out help the virtual world will be destroyed.

Article 1.

The scientific community is abuzz today after the latest report from MIT exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler was filed last night from the Antilin System, where he’s currently investigating a mysterious “ghost ship.” Claiming a breakthrough, Detweiler writes, “What I’ve discovered is nothing short of astonishing: This so-called derelict ship isn’t derelict at all. It appears that an alien race has downloaded its consciousness to a massive array of quantum computers onboard the vessel. It’s my belief these aliens now reside entirely in a virtual world and have been there for at least 8,000 years.” Detweiler estimates the population of the virtual world numbers close to one billion individuals. He explains: “The ship’s AI is something of a caretaker to these people, or even a god depending on how you look at it. More importantly, the AI is now requesting our help. It says a power failure is imminent and threatens the entire virtual civilization.”

Article 2.

Opinions were plentiful this week after MIT’s Jordan Detweiler stunned the scientific world when he revealed the existence of a virtual alien civilization residing in a derelict “ghost ship.” Niran Patalung, a Buddhist scholar at the Center for Religious Studies in Bangkok, said, “I’m struck by the parallels to ancient human beliefs in reincarnation. Clearly, life does not end for these aliens when they ‘die.’ Their souls, if you will, simply re-inhabit other virtual personalities and continue living.” Thomas Copeland, spokesman for an Earth-based atheist group, disagreed: “That’s true until you pull the plug. Then what? All these ‘souls’ just wink out, that’s what. Those who would latch onto this incident as proof of some higher level of existence are simply projecting their own wishful thinking onto digital noise.” Mr. Patalung replied: “One man’s noise is another man’s music. Perhaps in his next life, Mr. Copeland will be less tone-deaf.”

Article 3.

The galaxy remains riveted to the ongoing saga of the AI-driven “ghost ship,” now in danger of perishing because of dwindling energy reserves. Evolutionary biologists have jumped into the fray, with one claiming the extinction of the virtual alien race is the natural order of things. “Face it,” turian scientist Elgus Paramon argued, “these aliens were clever, but they weren’t clever enough to build a better battery. Their lack of foresight is a failure to adapt to changing conditions. Their species represents an evolutionary dead-end, and their civilization should be allowed to perish.” Responding, the chief exo-biologist investigating the ship, Jordan Detweiler, said “Mr. Paramon would have us commit genocide by turning a blind eye to the situation. We can save this civilization. The power requirements to preserve their virtual word are manageable.” The matter is now being referred to the Citadel Council for further consideration.

Article 4.

With time running out, no decision has yet been reached in the case of the alien “ghost ship” found drifting in salarian space. Exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler estimates the energy reserves currently powering the virtual alien world are down to 4% and will fail soon. Meanwhile, opportunistic explorers boarded the ship last night and managed to hack into the virtual civilization. Before they were caught, the hackers spent six hours interfaced with the ship’s computers. In that relatively short period of time, it appears that some 180 years passed within the virtual world. Both hackers are currently in deep comas and doctors are unsure as to their recovery. “The interface was too much for their systems to absorb. Trying to re-connect their minds to their bodies after being “away” for so long mentally was too large a shock. Physically they’re fine, but I’d wager scrambled eggs have more consciousness.”

Article 5.

The saga of the alien “ghost ship” has come to a surprising end. Earlier today, reports surfaced that the Citadel Council was prepared to rule against saving the ship, fearing its AI system was sophisticated enough to pose a “security threat of unknown dimensions.” In response, chief scientist Jordan Detweiler inserted himself into the virtual alien world to warn its citizens of their civilization’s imminent end. He returned one minute later — apparently equal to half a year within the accelerated timeline of the alien world — bringing a treaty offer from its inhabitants. At that point, details turn sketchy. One inside source claims the virtual aliens offered scientific advancements “far beyond anything we have” in return for assistance. A veil of secrecy was immediately erected, with Citadel intelligence agencies classifying the matter as top-secret. Rumors now have Jordan Detweiler embarking on a Council-sanctioned mission into the virtual world to make diplomatic contact.

I find this all to be very interesting and wonder if this will have impact on the major storyline?

Naice. Imagine what would happen if we gave them Mass Effect technology, waited a day or two and checked back in.

[skiaDUDE]

 The writers at Bioware (or whoever is in charge of this) have hit gold.  This is exactly the type of content that would make an incredible DLC.  After reading this i hope they will continue this and allow Shepard though DLC to go in there. Cmon Bioware the reasons are there!
1) It is a free pass to bring anything into the game ( Ex. Super-weapons, new Tech., new species, and a super interesting back story) without any complications. 
2) it would be an actual use for the Cerberus Daily News
3) I, and I think it is safe to guess, many other people, would buy it. It would certainly make for a Better DLC than Pinnacle Station.

PLLLLZZZZ do it BIOWARE!!!!!!!!!    

[Randy1012]

Jzadek72 wrote...

Possibly did it to escape from the Reapers? Because that could be useful.

The ship is only approximately 8,000 years old, which is too recent for them to have been hiding from the Reapers. Maybe their species was dying from an incurable plague, or something along those lines, and this was the only way they could preserve themselves. It would fit nicely with the theory that the Reapers came to be in a similar fashion: they were originally an organic race who put themselves into the first Reaper to preserve their genetic legacy.

[Galimor_001]

skiaDUDE wrote...

 The writers at Bioware (or whoever is in charge of this) have hit gold.  This is exactly the type of content that would make an incredible DLC.  After reading this i hope they will continue this and allow Shepard though DLC to go in there. Cmon Bioware the reasons are there!
1) It is a free pass to bring anything into the game ( Ex. Super-weapons, new Tech., new species, and a super interesting back story) without any complications. 
2) it would be an actual use for the Cerberus Daily News
3) I, and I think it is safe to guess, many other people, would buy it. It would certainly make for a Better DLC than Pinnacle Station.

PLLLLZZZZ do it BIOWARE!!!!!!!!!    

I'm with this man. Make it so that somehow, Geth make it into the virtuall world, and commander Shepard has to go in and clear them out.

[SandTrout]

I say it's a new source of enemies for Shepard to fight. They're too similar to my perceptions of the nature of the Reapers for me not to consider them a threat. They may be benign, but they could easily identify more with the Reapers, when they show up, than with the Citadel races. They are a liability.

They could also be a tremendous asset in the fight against the Reapers, as they have a better chance of understanding how the Reapers will think, and they may feel just as threatened as we do. Hard to tell, but we should have some Dreadnoughts on standby, just in case.

[dreman9999]

It's funny that the council had to be bribed in order to save them.

[dreman9999]

SandTrout wrote...

I say it's a new source of enemies for Shepard to fight. They're too similar to my perceptions of the nature of the Reapers for me not to consider them a threat. They may be benign, but they could easily identify more with the Reapers, when they show up, than with the Citadel races. They are a liability.
They could also be a tremendous asset in the fight against the Reapers, as they have a better chance of understanding how the Reapers will think, and they may feel just as threatened as we do. Hard to tell, but we should have some Dreadnoughts on standby, just in case.

It's a helpless space ship filled with AIs that runs in their own world that runs in a faster rate of time. No way are they enemies.

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 août 2010 - 03:05 .

[james-mac-paddywack]

You can imagine that Liara, TIM and The Shadow Broker are aching to get their hands on that ship.

[Lord Jaric]

cerberus news articles?



That's news to me.

[MythicalKnight]

skiaDUDE wrote...

 The writers at Bioware (or whoever is in charge of this) have hit gold.  This is exactly the type of content that would make an incredible DLC.  After reading this i hope they will continue this and allow Shepard though DLC to go in there. Cmon Bioware the reasons are there!
1) It is a free pass to bring anything into the game ( Ex. Super-weapons, new Tech., new species, and a super interesting back story) without any complications. 
2) it would be an actual use for the Cerberus Daily News
3) I, and I think it is safe to guess, many other people, would buy it. It would certainly make for a Better DLC than Pinnacle Station.

PLLLLZZZZ do it BIOWARE!!!!!!!!!    

I'm with this guy, I can't wait for this to be turned into some DLC content to be played.

[Randy1012]

dreman9999 wrote...

It's funny that the council had to be bribed in order to save them.

Well, they are politicians.

[skiaDUDE]

 Going back to this I can  think of SO MANY different ways this could be invaluable versus the reapers.  It is likely that the reapers went through this same process when they turned into bio-machines, if we were to go in there and learn from them it would give us if not a direct way of effectevly fighting the reaper then a much better understanding of how they work (which would lead to better defenses/weapon anyway).

Since it said that time passes much faster in their reality, the Council / Cerberus/Shepard could spend say only hours there and have spent decades learning about AI's and virtual realities.  

This is simply to big of potential for Bioware to store away and move onto the next news topic.

If Bioware does not address and build onto this, I believe come ME3 and beyond this will be one of the biggest "What if's?" in the story.

Cmon people we need to keep this thread going in the hope that this will be expanded into DLC:wizard:

[Lord Jaric]

you missed the very first article



“Alarms rang throughout the salarian system of Antilin yesterday when an alien ship bearing a strong AI signature triggered fears of a geth attack. Renko Turwin, Director of Near-Orbital Security, explained: "When evidence of powerful AI heuristics was detected onboard, our security forces thought it was the vanguard of a geth invasion. However, we consulted quarian scientific advisors who assured us that the signals failed to match any known geth signature." According to Turwin, the biggest surprise came next: "The ship's intelligence then communicated with us. It asked us to calculate the value of Pi to the first quadrillion digits. Some 20 questions followed after that, all of them beyond our realm of expertise. We're currently awaiting advice from outside consultants before proceeding. As yet, the ship matches no known alien species."”

[skiaDUDE]

Holy Sh*t, just did the math, the intelligences in the computer have been "alive" in their time for 2,102,400,000 years!!!!

[epoch_]

Thats actually a cool little story.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Genocide seems to be a bit of a bad habit for the council huh?