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[Slyx]

Just looking for opinions here.  I'm a fairly new BG2 player; have been playing about 2 months.  I've restarted too many times to count now.  The farthest into the game I've gotten is to the point in Spellhold where, I guess it's a dream, that you have to sacrifice an attribute point.

For now, I prefer to play solo.  I found the tedium of having to manage 6 NPC's a little bothersome, and often got frustrated with the pathing issues.

Anyway, I have a FMT and CT (both multi's) that are both ready to take the boat to Brynnlaw? or start chapter 4 anyway.  They both have nearly 6.5 million exp so far (I've done just about every quest that can be done pre-chapter 4, and have opened every lock/trap and mem'd tons of spells, etc.).  The game is pretty easy at this point, which I guess is to be expected when I've got HLA's in SoA and have over double the SoA exp cap. 

Anyhoo, I'm just unsure which of these 2 characters I might enjoy carrying on with to finish the game.  The FMT is nice to have the fighter APR, and mage spells (even though I will never have lvl 9 mage spells as I WILL be using the ToB exp cap... I don't want to make things too ridiculously easy the first time through), and the Cleric's turn undead ability, and various defensive buffs are handy.  I definitely wanted to have a multi or dual-class character incorporating a thief, so I could find all the traps (since, as this is my first playthrough, I won't know where they are).

So, what would you experienced players recommend?  I know bits and pieces of what lays in store for me.  I've never made the Crom Faeyr, and I do look forward to using that.  I feel it will be more of a boon to the FMT, since he has no way of consistently raising his strength past 19 or so (that I'm aware of anyway, at least at this point of the game), yet my CT almost always has 25 str, since I pre-buff before fights to get it that high.

So, FMT, or CT for first playthrough (this is solo again) continuing on from Chapter 4 onward.

Oh, and there is a LOT of the SoA portion of the game left at this point, right?  I'm hoping so!

Modifié par Slyx, 28 août 2010 - 01:08 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

The CT could easily get 8 APR if you used Belm and Kundane. Your usual buff regimen should give him a good THAC0 even with weapons that he doesn't have any proficiency with.

If you've done all the quests available to you (except saving Imoen) then you should have done about 70% of the game (I guess).

But what's there to say? Both builds are do-it-all-by-yourself builds and you shouldn't run into any major problems with either of them. You simply pay close attention when you meet a guy named Shank, and don't accept when somebody offers to sell you a ship!

[Joshh Avatar]

There is a mod called "Solo with a party" that I recommend - It manages all your party members for you, you dont have to move them at all, and it mazes them out of combat as soon as any combat begins so that you still get the solo experience - and the rich npc dialogue/banter of bg2.

I really dont recommend multiclasses, Dualclasses dualed early are far superior, multiclassing slows your levels in a big way. I recommend possibly making a cleric- priest of talos, and immediately dualclassing him to fighter- letting you get max level in fighter anyway while still having some early game cleric skills. No downside, as opposed to a half-cleric/half-fighter that is weaker than both.

If you like, I could test the best levels to dualclass for you, and so on. But seriously, -imo dont multiclass..... =D

Modifié par Joshh Avatar, 28 août 2010 - 02:03 .

[Slyx]

Humanoid_Taifun wrote...
You simply pay close attention when you meet a guy named Shank, and don't accept when somebody offers to sell you a ship!

I met a guy named Shank, sorta.  Shank and Carbos get into a fight in the bridge district, early on in the game.  They're somewhat close to the house that you find Neb in (for the illithium).  I presume you're not talking about this Shank?

[Slyx]

Joshh Avatar wrote...

There is a mod called "Solo with a party" that I recommend - It manages all your party members for you, you dont have to move them at all, and it mazes them out of combat as soon as any combat begins so that you still get the solo experience - and the rich npc dialogue/banter of bg2.

I read about this mod, and it seemed like something I'd be interested in, though I also read it was quite buggy so decided against looking into it any more.

Joshh Avatar wrote...

I really dont recommend multiclasses, Dualclasses dualed early are far superior, multiclassing slows your levels in a big way. I recommend possibly making a cleric- priest of talos, and immediately dualclassing him to fighter- letting you get max level in fighter anyway while still having some early game cleric skills. No downside, as opposed to a half-cleric/half-fighter that is weaker than both.

If you like, I could test the best levels to dualclass for you, and so on. But seriously, -imo dont multiclass..... =D

I like that you get HLA's from BOTH classes with multi-classed characters.  You also get lower saves.  I'm near the exp cap anyway at this point, so slowing of levels isn't an issue.  I also feel that having a lvl 40 fighter, vs a lvl 21 warrior is mostly a waste.  As a fighter, your THAC0 bottoms out at lvl 21, your saves bottom out at 17.  The only thing you gain is extra proficiency slots, which will probably go unused anyway.  I think maybe for SOME potential multi-class combos it can be more beneficial to dual-class, but often I think it's better to multi, especially if solo.  Also, for a first run-through, how am I going to deal with traps as a cleric dualed to a fighter?  I can "see" them with a spell, but that would be annoying to have to cast over and over, and still not be able to disable the ones that I can't walk around, or otherwise avoid.

[Joshh Avatar]

;d True enough, when I dual I dual very precisely with much research, power gamer that I am >.>. You are of course correct about the saves though. I also like the sheer numeracy of HLA's you get from a maxed out fighter. As for traps, I recommend that sword that gives you mirror imageas an ability, it will cancel most single target spell traps from hitting you? ;d. Idk, traps never bothered me much, I quicksave too frequently.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Early dualclasses are singlelcasses with a little extra mixed in. Multiclasses are something completely different.

A FC multi for example will have a far superior offense to both the Fighter->Cleric and the Cleric->Fighter, capitalizing both from high level cleric spells and warrior HLAs.

Sure, there are a couple of things that a dualclass can accomplish that a multi won't (CT with proficiency points in scimitars and short swords, kits, grandmastery for fighter combnations, abandoning one class after it's done it's duty) but it's wrong to simply declare dualclasses to be superior. With the CT and the FMT it's very understandable to choose multiclass over dualclass, the latter because you can't dualclass twice (among other reasons), the latter because it allows you to get UAI and high level cleric spells without crippling you until you've hit the XP cap.

[Sparky The Barbarian]

I've soloed an FMT. The only real challenge was the first engagement with the end boss of TOB. After that the HLA's made it a breeze.



My biggest issue with a CT is finding a weapon you can back stab with.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Staves are the best backstabbing weapon (and incidentally also usable by clerics).