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[Cypher0020]

On my desk is the card for 1600 points.... now... I can't waste these needlessly   but I was gonna get the new SB DLC and the Firepack dlc....

I know 160mps is 2 bucks or w/e.... but is it worth it? Can my Adept use any of the new guns? I read good reviews on here now and then...


I'm just both so nervous and excited to finally buy dlc and I'm not rich, so buying these prepaid cards is a lot for me

[PrinceLionheart]

As an adept you will only be starting off with the Phalanx, which is really a love it or hate it gun. Unless you use it to shoot of Mech's heads/legs your better off with the Carnifex.

The other two, Mattock and Geth Plasma Shotgun, you'll only get to use depending on your weapon training. They're both beastly so you can't go wrong with either.

[sinosleep]

It's worth it for the mattock alone. Has made a WORLD of difference on my vanguards and adepts. SPECTACULAR weapon it is when supported by the locust SMG.

[Mr_Raider]

Get the Kasumi DLC if you don't have it first. The Locust is a decent substitute for mid range assault rifle.



The firepower dlc is worth it if you like sniping. The Mattock is essentially a sniper rifle minus the scope, which is a big plus for caster based classes. The phalanx is also a sniping pistol, but then you need a decent SMG for backup like the locust. I can tell you on my vanguard it made no difference. I finished the game with eviscerator and vindicator for long range.



Meh... two bucks. (2.16 canadian)

[Cypher0020]

the mattock is an assult and a sniper?? I was going to reroll my infiltrator..... so they can use the new pistol and mattock? Or does that choice come on the Collector ship??

[Jade Elf]

The Mattock is a semi-automatic assault rifle, and is very accurate. Although for Infiltrators (and Soldiers) it's not really a replacement for sniper rifles IMO.

[Avrithor]

The Mattock is, quite frankly, overpowered. It's hyper-accurate, fires basically as fast as you can spam the mouse button, and does tremendous damage. The only downside is it's easy to run out of ammo with it. But you definitely won't be disappointed in its performance for you or your squadmates. I like the geth shotgun too, it destroys if all 3 projectiles hit the same target, which makes it a nice Vanguard weapon.

[termokanden]

I agree that the Mattock is overpowered, but please, it's not "very accurate" or "hyper-accurate". Actually it's kind of inaccurate until you get the AR Accuracy upgrade. I don't really disagree about it being powerful, but just wanted to clear that up.

[Cypher0020]

hmmmm I did runs as an adept, sentinel, and vanguard...



so which class would make good of the new pack? the soldier I assume? or infiltrator? I just got it but haven't tried it yet

[termokanden]

The soldier makes the best use of the new pack simply because they have access to all 3 weapon types.



Furthermore, Adrenaline Rush helps deal with the only problem the Mattock has - low ammo capacity.

[Cypher0020]

hmmm.... that's true... I love sniping, and soldiers/infiltrators are good with that.... suppose I could try soldier

[Avrithor]

termokanden wrote...

I agree that the Mattock is overpowered, but please, it's not "very accurate" or "hyper-accurate". Actually it's kind of inaccurate until you get the AR Accuracy upgrade. I don't really disagree about it being powerful, but just wanted to clear that up.

No, it really is quite accurate, even before the upgrade. After the upgrade, it's pinpoint.

[sinosleep]

Avrithor wrote...

The Mattock is, quite frankly, overpowered. It's hyper-accurate, fires basically as fast as you can spam the mouse button, and does tremendous damage. The only downside is it's easy to run out of ammo with it. But you definitely won't be disappointed in its performance for you or your squadmates. I like the geth shotgun too, it destroys if all 3 projectiles hit the same target, which makes it a nice Vanguard weapon.

I wouldn't call it over powered. It doesn't kill any faster than the viper (real world time here not theoretical 50 clicks a second) and has very limited ammo. It makes a spectacular specialty or back up weapon though. I tend to use it only on armored targets and continue using the locust (if available) on most shields. I mean, on my latest soldier I still took the revenant instead of going widow/mattock since they fill the same niche.

[Athenau]

The Mattock kills a lot faster than the Viper in adrenaline rush and has more endurance since it gets almost 3 times the amount of ammo per pickup. As a soldier if you supplement it with some sniping you won't run out. I get maybe 80% of my kills with Mattock and ammo is fine.

Is it OP? Borderline, IMO. It certainly makes the Vindicator totally pointless and, arguably, the Revenant as well (since it's ridiculously powerful at close range).

Modifié par Athenau, 28 août 2010 - 05:50 .

[JaegerBane]

Avrithor wrote...

The Mattock is, quite frankly, overpowered. It's hyper-accurate, fires basically as fast as you can spam the mouse button, and does tremendous damage. The only downside is it's easy to run out of ammo with it. But you definitely won't be disappointed in its performance for you or your squadmates. I like the geth shotgun too, it destroys if all 3 projectiles hit the same target, which makes it a nice Vanguard weapon.

Technically both are overpowered in comparison to the stuff in the game already... but hey, it's a single player game. Overpowered is good.

I like the Mattock's model more than the Vindi anyway. Meh.

[sinosleep]

JaegerBane wrote...

Technically both are overpowered in comparison to the stuff in the game already... but hey, it's a single player game. Overpowered is good.

I like the Mattock's model more than the Vindi anyway. Meh.

Meh, I don't much like the geth shotty at all. That gap in between when you pull the trigger and when the damned thing actually fires is horrid. I tried it a couple of times and went back to the EVI. I also just tried taking down the YMIR's on the N7 mission with the crates on my vanguard. Mattock might be more powerful than the viper during AR but on my vanguard they both took around the same time to down a YMIR. And that's while having 3 upgrades for the sniper rifle and 4 for the assault rifle. So I don't think either of them are over powered really. The geth shotty without the charged up shot I think is the worst of the bunch and the how often are you actually going to get charged shots off any way? And for the classes I actually use the mattock on it's no faster than a viper at killin things, and I'm not going to be getting up close and personal with it (I pick it up to replace the viper on caster classes so as to not get that cast zoom crap) so the melee range bonus don't mean squat to me either.

[IMNWME]

The Geth shotty is terrible on the Vanguard, but great for those classes that have to foot it to the party. My Assault Sentinel was a monster wielding the GPS and Energy Drain.



GPS DOES tend to be a little buggy with firing, though. After a reload in the middle of combat, you have to do something else (use a power, melee, etc.), or it won't shoot. This can cause a lot of headaches.



I'm running the Mattock on my Assault Sentinel right now. It's an amazing weapon for taking on enemy groups (3-4 enemies at a time), but ammo definitely becomes an issue if you don't supplement it with the Locust.

[lazuli]

sinosleep wrote...
Meh, I don't much like the geth shotty at all. That gap in between when you pull the trigger and when the damned thing actually fires is horrid. I tried it a couple of times and went back to the EVI.

Same.  I think on lower difficulty levels it would be fine, but once you go on Insanity you can't really go back.  At least the squadmates put it to good use.

[Cypher0020]

hmmmmm I got this feeling I want the infiltrator and take the AR bonus..... least I can try the new pistol?



when choosing the AR bonus weapon.... that gives you the avenger, vindicator, and mattock right?

[lazuli]

AR training is a waste if you have the Locust.

[Cypher0020]

nope don't have kasumi...saving it for the lotsb dlc.....

[lazuli]

Then you could do worse than to choose AR training. Truth be told, I feel like choosing anything other than the Widow as an Infiltrator borders on heresy. But that's just because not taking advantage of the Infiltrator's time dilation seems counter-intuitive to me.

[RGFrog]

Best loadout, imo, for non dlc infiltrator is Widow, tempest, Carnifex. Widow takes care of long shots, Tempest mid/upcloase, Carnifex strips armor if you need.

Were this might change for Infiltrators with the firepower pack would be the Geth shotty and the M5. The get shotgun does some serious damage to sheilds/bariers on a fully charged shot. So, it's got a good use for stripping, but you lose out on the Widow... and if you're not going with the widow, then your playstyle will determine the choice between the Geth shottie or the Mattock...

[termokanden]

Avrithor wrote...

termokanden wrote...

I agree that the Mattock is overpowered, but please, it's not "very accurate" or "hyper-accurate". Actually it's kind of inaccurate until you get the AR Accuracy upgrade. I don't really disagree about it being powerful, but just wanted to clear that up.

No, it really is quite accurate, even before the upgrade. After the upgrade, it's pinpoint.

Pinpoint after the upgrade, agreed. But before, I was a little disappointed with its accuracy.

Not that I would use the Vindicator EVER if I had access to the Mattock.

The Geth Plasma Shotgun is also overpowered, I would agree on that. It's a shotgun, but you can almost snipe people with it. It's quite easy hitting someone with all "pellets" even at medium range. When you charge it, it certainly does more damage than any other shotgun, and THAT is insane.

Then you could do worse than to choose AR training. Truth be told, I feel like choosing anything other than the Widow as an Infiltrator borders on heresy. But that's just because not taking advantage of the Infiltrator's time dilation seems counter-intuitive to me.

On the xbox, the time dilation is both a blessing and a curse due to the fact that aim-assist will work against you. Sometimes I like sniping without Adrenaline Rush for example, simply because then I can hit moving targets more easily.

But I would agree that the Widow is the infiltrator's signature weapon.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 août 2010 - 03:27 .

[Mr_Raider]

Cypher0020 wrote...

nope don't have kasumi...saving it for the lotsb dlc.....

Then the firepower pack won't add much to the Adept. If you do get the pack, one option is to take AR as a bonus power. You can then use the vindicator as your all purpose gun, and the phalanx for sniping long range.