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[didymos1120]

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

[ShadoX_LV]

Makes sense, but they could have mentioned that in some conversation.. :/

[didymos1120]

ShadoX_LV wrote...

Makes sense, but they could have mentioned that in some conversation.. :/

They hint at it.  TIM speculates at the very beginning that killing Sovvy is what drew their attention to humanity, for instance, when asked "Why humans?"

[krimesh]

EDIT: postkill!!!

Modifié par krimesh, 30 août 2010 - 11:58 .

[nelly21]

I still think the Reapers are designed to guarantee the immortality of all civilizations. It would explain why the Reapers take the shape of the species they are assimilating.



In my opinion, the Reapers are living monuments. All civilizations rise, have a period of stablity and dominance and then, over the course of decades and centuries, fall. I think the Reapers were created to be sort of a stop gap. Think of emperors and kings in our own past. They created these eleaborate tombs that were enormous and full of riches and such. Why? Because they wanted history to remember them. It's a form of imortality. This, i believe, is the reason Harbinger refers to the harvesting as an "ascension". In their eyes, they're not destroying our race. They are assuring its existence for all eternity.

[Thompson family]

Count Viceroy wrote...

I was saying this very thing to myself last night when I did the collector ship mission. They are going to target earth...

Yeah how. They only have one ship. There's no way they'd be able to tackle anything defended with that one ship. That reaper would have been left unfinished. And as far as I know, they aren't mentioned in Me1. They are mentioned in the books however.

Hence the plan to launch a virus on the non-heretic Geth, bringing the huge reinforcement needed.

And thanks, Upsettingshorts. One of your replies on another thread made me look this thread up.

[Bad King]

Thompson family wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

I was saying this very thing to myself last night when I did the collector ship mission. They are going to target earth...

Yeah how. They only have one ship. There's no way they'd be able to tackle anything defended with that one ship. That reaper would have been left unfinished. And as far as I know, they aren't mentioned in Me1. They are mentioned in the books however.

Hence the plan to launch a virus on the non-heretic Geth, bringing the huge reinforcement needed.

And thanks, Upsettingshorts. One of your replies on another thread made me look this thread up.

Also, it's likely that the collectors have multiple vessels. Plus they could possibly hire anti-human mercs (batarians or even Turians) to assist them.

[Berkilak]

didymos1120 wrote...

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

But why make such a gamble creating one through the Collectors if it is inevitable that the Reapers will harvest all sentient life anyway (humans included)?

[didymos1120]

Berkilak wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

But why make such a gamble creating one through the Collectors if it is inevitable that the Reapers will harvest all sentient life anyway (humans included)?

So, what exactly was the big gamble here for the Reapers?  If it's inevitable anyway, then it simply becomes a "Well, why not? May as well see if we can at least get this partially out of the way before major reaping operations commence" thing.  If things go well, good.  If they don't go well, oh well.  They can always make some new Collectors later, if worse comes to worst.  They'd already done what they were mostly for anyway: keeping tabs on the organics and an eye out for good Reaper material.

I just can't see this loss as being that big a deal from the Reaper POV:  "Well, darn. They broke that tool. Jerks. Hmmm, maybe we'll make the new one from the  asari.  Or the quarians.  Sure, a few hundred thousand humans kinda got wasted there, but then we were constantly getting data and results back here in dark space, so it's not that bad.  The glass is totally half-full people! We'll just do somethin' else.  'Find another way' if you will.  Suppose we'll have to build a new base/recapture that base in the core too, and roll out some new firmware for the relays so that IFF trick can't be used again.  *sigh* I tell ya': a Reaper's work is never done..."

[MassEffect762]

smudboy wrote...

Purpose? To destroy the Mass Effect universe's believability, coherency, and usher in a new age of retards.

I was going to say "to lower standards/expectations" but whatever.

[Berkilak]

didymos1120 wrote...

Berkilak wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

But why make such a gamble creating one through the Collectors if it is inevitable that the Reapers will harvest all sentient life anyway (humans included)?

So, what exactly was the big gamble here for the Reapers?  If it's inevitable anyway, then it simply becomes a "Well, why not? May as well see if we can at least get this partially out of the way before major reaping operations commence" thing.  If things go well, good.  If they don't go well, oh well.  They can always make some new Collectors later, if worse comes to worst.  They'd already done what they were mostly for anyway: keeping tabs on the organics and an eye out for good Reaper material.

I just can't see this loss as being that big a deal from the Reaper POV:  "Well, darn. They broke that tool. Jerks. Hmmm, maybe we'll make the new one from the  asari.  Or the quarians.  Sure, a few hundred thousand humans kinda got wasted there, but then we were constantly getting data and results back here in dark space, so it's not that bad.  The glass is totally half-full people! We'll just do somethin' else.  'Find another way' if you will.  Suppose we'll have to build a new base/recapture that base in the core too, and roll out some new firmware for the relays so that IFF trick can't be used again.  *sigh* I tell ya': a Reaper's work is never done..."

Solid logic. It just seems a mite superfluous to me. Although, I guess you could say the same for a lot of the game.

[Thompson family]

... usher in a new age of retards.

You know, there's an important difference between being stupid and being bitter.
Somebody who's stupid will bang his head against a wall, then say "OUCH! That HURT. That was really stupid. Boy, am I an idiot."
Then he stops.
Somebody who's bitter?
Well ... let's just say that he'd better wear a helmet.

Modifié par Thompson family, 31 août 2010 - 01:39 .

[Moiaussi]

didymos1120 wrote...

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

If the human reaper grabbed Shep to squish, would it therefore have a bird in the hand? (Bonus points if FemShep).

[Berkilak]

Badum-CHA!

Moiaussi wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

So, you've got this species that's already looking to be a pain, and they're also great Reaper material....what to do? Why, we turn them into a Reaper! Two birds, one stone: enemy eliminated, new Reaper in the ranks.

If the human reaper grabbed Shep to squish, would it therefore have a bird in the hand? (Bonus points if FemShep).

Badump-CHA!