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AMD Phenom Quad Core CPU fix for major gfx suttering & long load times


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AMD Phenom Quad Core 9600, MSI Platinum K9A2 MB, Dual ATI Radeon HD RX3870 Graphics cards, and 2 GB Ram

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what OS? did you try the processor affinity fix? it's here under "Fix for crashing to desktop with Multicores"

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Vista Home Premium and yes I have tried the affinity fix. I have a post about 8 posts up that explains what happened and I have tried every combo for the affinity thing.

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Ah right I misread the post and thought you had tried the OPs solution... have you tried his patch yet?

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Ok but do you have any advice for me? I am glad I didn't post earlier because I was going to say that all the problems (except for the game freezes) seemed very similar to a memory leak issue. I am not saying that is what it is just that the longer I play a session the longer the load times get and the more choppy the movements and basic menu choices seem to get. I am just a bit frustrated because my system is on par with the recommended requirements, I paid $75 for the game and the guide and so far I am having to jump through hoops just to get the game to run poorly.

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JironGhrad wrote...

Ah right I misread the post and thought you had tried the OPs solution... have you tried his patch yet?


Since I was told that the BIOS will never update itself I figured that the solution would not do anything for me since I never got the bad patch to begin with.

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I was having all of the same issues on my Phenom 9100e and this did wonders. Thanks!!!

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Tbh this should deserve a stickie, it solved all of the problems I had with this game

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I already knew about this, but this a great post for people who is having problems. Thanks. :D

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O.k. I'm having the said issues with the game...extreme lag and load times.

Went to the OPs first link made the new folder, extracted the two programs into the folder....ran the tlb disable...and the programs status sits at "working.." nothing else.

Wth am I doing wrong? lol I'm no techie :(



AMD Phenom 9500 quad-core

6GB ram

nvidia geforce gtx 280

vista home premium

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meskalynn wrote...

O.k. I'm having the said issues with the game...extreme lag and load times.
Went to the OPs first link made the new folder, extracted the two programs into the folder....ran the tlb disable...and the programs status sits at "working.." nothing else.
Wth am I doing wrong? lol I'm no techie :(

AMD Phenom 9500 quad-core
6GB ram
nvidia geforce gtx 280
vista home premium


you might try the core affinity fix I posted a few posts up.  Not every phenom quad has the problem (as the OP pointed out)

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Atra Vita wrote...

JironGhrad wrote...

Ah right I misread the post and thought you had tried the OPs solution... have you tried his patch yet?


Since I was told that the BIOS will never update itself I figured that the solution would not do anything for me since I never got the bad patch to begin with.


It's not necessarily a bad patch (in some cases it is) but it's also tied to certain BIOS's and certain processors.  You might try his solution in any case (since if it doesn't work, rebooting will undo any changes)

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JironGhrad wrote...

meskalynn wrote...

O.k. I'm having the said issues with the game...extreme lag and load times.
Went to the OPs first link made the new folder, extracted the two programs into the folder....ran the tlb disable...and the programs status sits at "working.." nothing else.
Wth am I doing wrong? lol I'm no techie :(

AMD Phenom 9500 quad-core
6GB ram
nvidia geforce gtx 280
vista home premium


you might try the core affinity fix I posted a few posts up.  Not every phenom quad has the problem (as the OP pointed out)



Thank You!!
Simple fix made the biggest difference!
I appreciate your time and help :)

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So you need to just tick off cpu 0 for dual core? Will that just put your processor to function as if it has only one core?

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Titius.Vibius wrote...

So you need to just tick off cpu 0 for dual core? Will that just put your processor to function as if it has only one core?


Yes. And "sort of".  What it does is cause the operating system to assign the game to only that one core.  What this means in simple terms is that it gives the game only 1 place to run.  Now, this "could", in theory, cause a slowdown... BUT, what actually happens is that because the game is running on the single CPU it effectively ties up the entire processor.  This sounds bad, but actually all that happens is that Windows will look for a free place to run anything going on (other than the game) and it will see that CPU 1 (Core #2) is busy and will not try to run anything else there.  The net result is that instead of sharing processor time the game will have all of the processor (for example, a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo running with affinity will assign all 2.4Ghz of Core #2 to the game which will then run the game at an unmodified 2.4Ghz.). 

It's possible with a properly optimized CPU and program to run it faster than that, but usually that also entails turning off "everything else" on the computer.  And becomes a lot more work (for the end-user) to get things running securely (as anti-virus and anti-spyware programs are very bad at resource management) and efficiently (you end up turning off all the stuff that makes Windows pretty and it looks like you're running Windows 98).

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Holy munchies, that explains a lot, thank you very much for that information.

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Thank YOU for this very informative post. I had the same problems as you mentioned but now my AMD CPU purs like a kitten! So thx a bunch!

/a happy DA:O gamer Image IPB

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madsk8260 wrote...

Thank YOU for this very informative post. I had the same problems as you mentioned but now my AMD CPU purs like a kitten! So thx a bunch!

/a happy DA:O gamer Image IPB


You're welcome, glad to help. If y'all would like to help as well, just make sure to tell people that these fixes have worked for you and help squash the "memory leak myth" since just googling the information will help you know the answer.  And as they say "Knowing is half the battle" Image IPB

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I read that B3 is already patch and doesn't need the patch, but i still got the loading time problem



should i try to patch it or try the affinity ?



AMD Phenom X 3 8450 triple core



4 GB RAM



Geforce 8500GT



Windows 7 x64

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JironGhrad wrote...

what OS? did you try the processor affinity fix? it's here under "Fix for crashing to desktop with Multicores"


the affinity fix bothers me because when i change affinity to work on only one core, that one core is at 100% usage even while DA is running idle. DA takes up 100% of 2 cores, also, for that matter, and it's not until i set it to use 3 cores that each core isn't maxed out.

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just tried the affinity thing... doesn't help, actually hurts. i'm running a Phenom 9550, out-of-box clock speed at 2.2 ghz, overclocked to 2.4-something.



like i said, this game running idle uses 50-60% of my total processing power, reducing that total power by 3/4 doesn't seem to make any sense at all.

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just wanted to say thank you! i have an AMD Phenom 9500 Quad 2.20GHz running Vista Ultimate x64. did the CPUID/TLB_Disable and am no longer having any issues.

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So I don't have the problem in the OP, and i have a phenom II x3 720 be



do i need this?

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what about for those who have dual cores?

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I have a 9550 too, which isn't affected by the HW bug, and setting core affinity to only one of the four cores doesn't help that much as it improves load times but drops fps.



While throwing around accusations of memory leaks is not always justified, what I'm seeing on my box is exactly what I would expect from a leak, specifically from one in a thread that gets way too much CPU time when the game can use all four cores. That said the game runs well enough for one to two hours and restarting after that isn't too much of a problem really... save+restart+resume is usually faster than a single reload by that time too.