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#76
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Tcalho- hmm..not sure about revision 3 AMD cpu's like yours (denoted by the xx50 production numbers).



11the hero- also weird about the phenom II being so slow! is it inside a AM3 motherboard?

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Its a Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P motherboard with AM2+/AM3 support. According to their website it supports the processor. http://www.gigabyte....=3031#anchor_os

I'm pretty sure its not the motherboard. Only problem I've had outside of Dragon age is this odd 'hiccup' the computer does occasionally where everything freezes for a moment. I think that may have been from plugging everything into a single wall outlet.

I'm running Vista business 32 bit if that helps

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Game is going much better now after using this. Really helped me out.

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Is there a fix like this for Windows 7 professional 64 bit? I downloaded the programs but when i run them all it does is a little PING and says "working" on the tool...

I am running a Phenom 9600

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This fixed my problem and now I don't have to quit and restart after a few area loads. Thank you.

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I have a Gateway P-173X FX and I have the same long-ass loading times, and when there's a lot of enemies on the screen at once, or I'm in a BIG room with a very high ceiling, I can toss a fireball at a crowd and it won't explode until like 10-15 seconds later. My rogue will sit there stabbing and stabbing with no damage number coming up until 10-15 seconds later. I have asked around but no one claims to have this problem, I feel pretty much alone. I don't have an AMD, but I wish someone could help me. Every other game I own runs flawlessly. I refuse to believe my computer is too weak to run Dragon Age without excessive lag like this. Some lag, sure. But this kind of lag? It's like I have a 486 or something.

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This post was incredibly useful to me, thank you. 9500 quad working like a charm now.

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I have an AMD Phenom 9600 x4, running 8gb of ram with a gtx 260 oc video card, I am running windows 7 64x and this game runs very poorly on my system. I have tried useing the affinity it didnt help. I downloaded the TLB disable, but when I open it i get a beep and it just says working nothing else happens.  Any ideas?

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I have an Intel Core i7 ... I never get stuttering during gameplay, but I get ever increasing load times, so this is more than just an AMD issue.


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Quick query, what happens if you try to use the TLB fixer on a 9650 processor? I downloaded it and tried it without reading properly (desperate for a fix with the "after so much time playing" problems). Does the fix simply have no effect on a 9650 or have I done something stupid to my computer? If I have done something daft can I just run the TLB enable program to fix it?

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I have an intel quad2 core cpu with an NVIDIA GEFORCE 8500 GT. On windows 7. I've been having long load times as well as decreased fps during battles, even on low settings. Any ideas anyone?

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JironGhrad wrote...

Titius.Vibius wrote...

The game engine is the problem it seems. We have to wait for a patch to fix things like this ugly memory leak of some sort.


If it was a memory leak, everyone would have it.  As the OP has clearly shown, some of the problems are tied to at least one specific processor series.  Throwing "memory leak" around is at best an inaccurate exaggeration and at worst a gross falacy.  If setting core affinity or troubleshooting solves even some of the problems then, leak it is not. 
Is it possible that there's a problem somewhere with how the coding translates to the processors? Yes. 

Is the answer to insist that Bioware fix "the memory leak"? NO!

The answer is to have a look around the internet.  Try running CPU-Z, then google your exact processor model.  Do a little research and see if you can bring more information to the discussion.  You might even find the next big fix.  But posting like this wastes the data space it's using on the forum; it helps no one and may discourage someone from even trying something new. Shame on you!


What you say is bull****!

It is a memory leak... And NO your are wrong, memory leak is a bug and it don't need to be present in every one system. Like almost all bugs in games, it only trigers for some people.

The problem is that some people don't even notice the "memory leake" becouse their systems are too fast, and even when the "memory leake" are degrading their system performance they don't pay atention when the load time encrease from 10 to 15 seconds. But for other people the load time pops out from 10 seconds to 5 minutes.

Modifié par DeadOverlord, 07 décembre 2009 - 10:42 .


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My system specs:

Processor: Inten Celeron 420 1.6Ghz, Code Name: Conroe-L (As show in CPU-Z) (This is a single-core cpu)
Memory: Generic 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 333Mhz (As show in CPU-Z)
VGA: ECS Geforce 8600GT 256MB

As you all see, even if my system is below the minimun specs, when i start the game i CAN play the game without any problem, but after 2 hours of play, the load times become greater than 5 minutes, then i save the game, ALT+F4 (the game close very fast, it is good), then i restart the game and load the game, it take less than 1 minute to save, close, restart then load.

The developers just says that their game need an CORE 2 DUO ****... Quad COre blah blah bla... When in fact that great game REALY work with an cheap 1.6Ghz single core cpu.
The only thing that i realy want to say is that is easy to see that this game is very well optimized, it runs smoth in my slow cpu, and that is great.

But we all, can't deny that there is an problem with the memory management inside the game.

Modifié par DeadOverlord, 07 décembre 2009 - 10:44 .


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And what is the problem whit people?

I saw bugs in games like Prototype, Dragon Age: Origins, Divinity 2, and in their web sites i always see post that "try" too say to players that their bugs are related to AMD processors, and in fact it has nothing to do with AMD things, the links in the first post can help people speed up the game if you have a Phenom cpu, but that bugs are related to the game and NOT TO THE PROCESSOR.



I'm waiting i patch to fix it.

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Well this fix is quite good but there is other problem to it.

i have phenom 9600 black edition nvidia 8800GTX(768mb) and 8GB 800mhz ram runing on vista 64.

any games which were out i was played with all graphic options on and didn't had any problems or crashes and without any adjustments to my system.



with this fix transition issues are solved but if you don't set affinity you will get crashes.

why i don't know but this fix disables the stability of system so using that is not really a good alternative.



the mass effect didn't had this issue.. but why this game does ?

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This game lags for me after finding out the guy I helped is a blood mage.


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I have a AMD Athelon X64 with Win 7 Ultimate 32bit, and 1 gb ram . I know prob should upgrade ram but is there anything I can do to cut down lag in mean time? I've already lowered all the graphic settings but changes nothing. I even updated all graphic cards and everything else to possibly update. I even just did a defrag but wasn't necessary as I have over 400gb hd space. So.. any suggestions? I tried finding the Physx thing but I can't seem to get my NVIDIA control panel to open up to turn it off. It says "The NVIDIA Display Panel extension cannot be created possible reasons include: Version mismatch. Reinstalling display drivers may solve this problem." I've tried reinstalling and updating the drivers but not working. Any suggestions please? This is a great game and I would like to play it without the constant annoyance of my character appearing to move in slowmotion.

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Ku****e, Ram sure is cheap and it would be a good idea to buy more, but the most important thing would be your graphics card... Though for those more powerfull ones you should get better CPU and actually I would suggest buying new pc altogether... You could try to disable Aero in Windows7. And lower every detail in Win7 that you can find, this should really help.

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This is an AMD Phenom issue not an AMD Phenom II issue as clearly shown in wikipedia:

Before Phenom's original release, a flaw was discovered in the translation lookaside buffer (TLB) that could cause a system lock-up in rare circumstances. Phenom processors up to and including stepping "B2" and "BA" are affected by this bug. BIOS and software workarounds disable the TLB, and typically incur a performance penalty of at least 10%.[3] This penalty was not accounted for in pre-release previews of Phenom, hence the performance of early Phenoms delivered to customers is expected to be less than the preview benchmarks. "B3" stepping Phenom processors were released March 27, 2008 without the TLB bug and with "xx50" model numbers.[4]

An AMD subsidiary has released a patch for the Linux kernel,[5] which it said has received "minimal functional testing", to overcome this bug by software emulation of accessed- and dirty-bits causing little performance loss.[citation needed]

AMD has launched several models of the Phenom processor in 2007/2008 and more recently an upgraded model Phenom II in late 2008.[6][7][8][9]


This is why I bought a newer Phenom II not the cheaper original Phenom's that have a potential of this bug, which when remedied still perform a 10% hit against its true potential.

Modifié par Yelina, 15 décembre 2009 - 03:36 .


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I have phenom 9950 quad-core and with or without using TLB disable program I have to re-start my game every few hours anyway. It is noticeable only after ~4-6 hours, mostly lags when talking to people (I say something and have to wait for a response). Not much of a problem because in most cases I don't even play that long.



I guess there is no solution to that.

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crusader_bin wrote...

I have phenom 9950 quad-core and with or without using TLB disable program I have to re-start my game every few hours anyway. It is noticeable only after ~4-6 hours, mostly lags when talking to people (I say something and have to wait for a response). Not much of a problem because in most cases I don't even play that long.

I guess there is no solution to that.


Your 9950 does not have the bug in it as per my above post. Only Non-xx50 Phenoms with the specific stepping architecture have this particular bug. Phenom processors up to and including stepping "B2" and "BA" are affected by this bug, not "B3" or xx50 series.

Bah, get a Phenom II 955, it currently holds to world record (and EVERY world record since it came out) for overclocking it 118% of its basic spec. Now thats some serious processor woohoo, 7,000.4 Ghz, GO AMD!

Modifié par Yelina, 15 décembre 2009 - 06:51 .


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I just upgraded my system to an SLI and couldn't figure out why I was still getting low FPS even on the lowest settings in certain areas. I came accross this page yesterday and the TLB fix worked for me. Thank you for posting the fix Nujabes.



My system specs: AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition, 2GB DDR2 1066 Memory, AsRock NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI MoBo, 2X EVGA GTX 260 Super Clocked in SLI, Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit.

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Kaos1982 wrote...

I have an AMD Phenom 9600 x4, running 8gb of ram with a gtx 260 oc video card, I am running windows 7 64x and this game runs very poorly on my system. I have tried useing the affinity it didnt help. I downloaded the TLB disable, but when I open it i get a beep and it just says working nothing else happens.  Any ideas?


Kaos did you make sure that you are running the program as administrator? If not you will get an error something along the lines of unable to read the TLB. Your system should not have any trouble running this game it definitely sounds like the TLB bug to me.

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I'm getting an error when I attempt to use the tlb disable tool. [ Screenshot: http://usera.ImageCa...disabletool.jpg ]
I have an AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Processor.  My operating system is Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 2. My user account is the administrator, so I'm not sure what I'm missing.

Modifié par Glorious_Leader, 10 janvier 2010 - 03:08 .