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[Dr. wonderful]

eucatastrophe wrote...

Might I also add that Zevran comments that there are qunari he finds attractive and has been with back in Antiva... I'm just wondering how the horns factor into it all XP

It made him...horny?

Oh god I kid, I kid.

[Dr. wonderful]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

This is getting quite tiresome...
Where are the moderators?

Drinking tea and playing on their 360's.

[Lord_Valandil]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

This is getting quite tiresome...
Where are the moderators?

Drinking tea and playing on their 360's.

So it seems.

[Schwadragon]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Schwadragon wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Well of course, cows aren't evil.

I beg to differ, sir!

W...What?
Since when cows are evil? 

Sure, the cows act all innocent, but they're secretly plotting to destroy the Earth by releasing methane and thus contributing to Global Warming!

Modifié par Schwadragon, 29 août 2010 - 05:23 .

[Celticon]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I just think they tacked on those horns at the last minute. I have no recollection of them ever saying Quinari have horns in any of the codexes. I even remember reading the one about the Quinari, which just stated that they are bronze skinned giants.

If anything, the Quinari are already somewhat evil. I mean they are always at war, which doesn't ring "good people" to me at least. Even Sten says that they will attack Ferelden, and they don't seem to have any ties with Ferelden, so that is definitely out of the blue.

In addition, none of the Qunari encountered ingame had horns. Sten's buddies (in the Fade), all the Qunari mercenaries (Kadan Fe, etc), and Armaas (Silverite mines).

[CrookedAsylum]

Hmm, I never saw the Qunari as evil. No more than, say, the Chantry. They wish to spread the Qun, and from what I understand of the Qun it seems like no one person is any more important than the other. I think Sten once talked about an Antivan assassin fishing for information about the land...



Sten: She was a Crow, as you were. Sent to assassinate the kithshoks, leaders of the army of Seheron, for the Tevinter Imperium. We knew this, and pitied her.

Zevran: I'm surprised you did not simply slay her.

Sten: There was no need. Her questions were meant to show her the way through the jungle towards our fortifications. And so one day, she snuck into the jungle to find her target. We found the pieces of her body in a tree, where the spotted cats kept them for later. We had never told her that our kithshoks were the ones who negotiated all the trades at the port.

Zevran: Then she was a fool. That's not very sympathetic, I'm afraid.

Sten: It was her ignorance we pitied, not her mistake. She believe we hoarded things we cared for as her own people do. We were sorry for her, that she thought only some people were important.



That hardly seems evil to me.

[Randy1012]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I just think they tacked on those horns at the last minute. I have no recollection of them ever saying Quinari have horns in any of the codexes. I even remember reading the one about the Quinari, which just stated that they are bronze skinned giants.

If anything, the Quinari are already somewhat evil. I mean they are always at war, which doesn't ring "good people" to me at least. Even Sten says that they will attack Ferelden, and they don't seem to have any ties with Ferelden, so that is definitely out of the blue.

The qunari aren't invading other nations because they're evil, they're doing it because they think they have to 'enlighten' the other races by spreading the Qun. Sort of like the Conquistadors and the Jesuit missionaries trying to convert the indigenous American peoples to Catholicism during the Age of Exploration.

Modifié par Randy1083, 29 août 2010 - 05:32 .

[eucatastrophe]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

Might I also add that Zevran comments that there are qunari he finds attractive and has been with back in Antiva... I'm just wondering how the horns factor into it all XP

It made him...horny?

Oh god I kid, I kid.

i set myself up for that one didn't i?

[Schwadragon]

Randy1083 wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I just think they tacked on those horns at the last minute. I have no recollection of them ever saying Quinari have horns in any of the codexes. I even remember reading the one about the Quinari, which just stated that they are bronze skinned giants.

If anything, the Quinari are already somewhat evil. I mean they are always at war, which doesn't ring "good people" to me at least. Even Sten says that they will attack Ferelden, and they don't seem to have any ties with Ferelden, so that is definitely out of the blue.

The qunari aren't invading other nations because they're evil, they're doing it because they think they have to 'enlighten' the other races by spreading the Qun. Sort of like the Conquistadors and the Jesuit missionaries trying to convert the indigenous American peoples to Catholicism during the Age of Exploration.

Well, yes, but (arguably, at least) that's evil.

[Dr. wonderful]

eucatastrophe wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

Might I also add that Zevran comments that there are qunari he finds attractive and has been with back in Antiva... I'm just wondering how the horns factor into it all XP

It made him...horny?

Oh god I kid, I kid.

i set myself up for that one didn't i?

Yup.

[Lord_Valandil]

Schwadragon wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Schwadragon wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Well of course, cows aren't evil.

I beg to differ, sir!

W...What?
Since when cows are evil? 

Sure, the cows act all innocent, but they're secretly plotting to destroy the Earth by releasing methane and thus contributing to Global Warming!

But, but...
They give us milk...and without milk...Cheese wouldn't exist.
What would we do without cheese?

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 29 août 2010 - 05:38 .

[Randy1012]

Schwadragon wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I just think they tacked on those horns at the last minute. I have no recollection of them ever saying Quinari have horns in any of the codexes. I even remember reading the one about the Quinari, which just stated that they are bronze skinned giants.

If anything, the Quinari are already somewhat evil. I mean they are always at war, which doesn't ring "good people" to me at least. Even Sten says that they will attack Ferelden, and they don't seem to have any ties with Ferelden, so that is definitely out of the blue.

The qunari aren't invading other nations because they're evil, they're doing it because they think they have to 'enlighten' the other races by spreading the Qun. Sort of like the Conquistadors and the Jesuit missionaries trying to convert the indigenous American peoples to Catholicism during the Age of Exploration.

Well, yes, but (arguably, at least) that's evil.

Oh, sure, I agree. I just mean that I don't think their intentions are evil. They're not sitting up there in Par Vollen going, "Look upon us and despair, for we will conquer you all! Mwahahaha! Ours is an evil laugh!"

[Schwadragon]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Schwadragon wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Schwadragon wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Well of course, cows aren't evil.

I beg to differ, sir!

W...What?
Since when cows are evil? 

Sure, the cows act all innocent, but they're secretly plotting to destroy the Earth by releasing methane and thus contributing to Global Warming!

But, but...
They give us milk...and without milk...Cheese wouldn't exist.
What would we do without cheese?

Do not be fooled! Cheese is the bait the cows use on the mousetrap that will spell our doom! Except the mousetrap is made out of cow-farts!

[Dasher10]

That pic of the banana was epic

[Anarya]

Trailer Qunari's not evil, his wife is just really unfaithful (really really, I mean those are some big horns).

[habitat 67]

Dave of Canada wrote...

They aren't demonized. They have horns.

Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Sten also doesn't have horns, not all Qunari do.

Didn't you know? Cows are evil. They release mass quantities of methane into the atmosphere.

oh crumbs, beaten....

Anyways Qunaris with horns look awesome and the whiners just like to whine.

Modifié par habitat 67, 29 août 2010 - 05:52 .

[Homebound]

Dave of Canada wrote...

They aren't demonized. They have horns.

Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Sten also doesn't have horns, not all Qunari do.

Not to mention we already know what demons look like in Dragon Age.

Ever been ot the Fade?

[kcwME]

TBH, I was getting more "space goat" vibe, than demon. But that may just be me.

[Dave of Canada]

Anarya wrote...

Trailer Qunari's not evil, his wife is just really unfaithful (really really, I mean those are some big horns).

Qunari don't marry, though. He should be celebrating rather than be angry.

*runs away from married people*

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 29 août 2010 - 05:52 .

[HTTP 404]

eastoreispos wrote...

Looking at the trailer and at interviews from DA devs, I have one question:  why have the Qunari been demonized?  Why exactly did the Qunari look need to be 'updated' to include giant horns? 

Do you believe DA's fanbase is too simplistic to accept an enemy who's evil is a bit ambigious, and thus needs to fight an enemy who, like the darkspawn, is evil through and through?  Do you believe we the fans are ourselves so simplistic that we need this clear and cookie-cutter evil to be representated graphically by the addition of giant horns?

This whole thing is a bit insulting, specially to someone who absolutely loved the Sten character and was dying to learn more about the Qunari.

I are very disappoint. 

this is why Political Correctness exists folks.  Someone is always offended.

[habitat 67]

Celticon wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

I just think they tacked on those horns at the last minute. I have no recollection of them ever saying Quinari have horns in any of the codexes. I even remember reading the one about the Quinari, which just stated that they are bronze skinned giants.

If anything, the Quinari are already somewhat evil. I mean they are always at war, which doesn't ring "good people" to me at least. Even Sten says that they will attack Ferelden, and they don't seem to have any ties with Ferelden, so that is definitely out of the blue.

In addition, none of the Qunari encountered ingame had horns. Sten's buddies (in the Fade), all the Qunari mercenaries (Kadan Fe, etc), and Armaas (Silverite mines).

Characters are allowed to progress and it happens all the time. Klingons used to look human before they morphed into ridge heads.

[Lord_Valandil]

habitat 67 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

They aren't demonized. They have horns.

Last I checked, horns didn't make you evil.

Sten also doesn't have horns, not all Qunari do.

Didn't you know? Cows are evil. They release mass quantities of methane into the atmosphere.

oh crumbs, beaten....

Anyways Qunaris with horns look awesome and the whiners just like to whine.

That's not true. Cows aren't evil. I insist.

[Anarya]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Trailer Qunari's not evil, his wife is just really unfaithful (really really, I mean those are some big horns).

Qunari don't marry, though. He should be celebrating rather than be angry.

*runs away from married people*

Archaic terminology joke because I am a vocab nerd.

[nhsk]

"Not all qunari have horns"



No, but they also said that it is very rare for a qunari to not have horns and those born without it are seen as special, akin to be born for some greater purpose.



So 1 in a 1000 qunari does not have horns.

[joey_mork84]

Do my horns make me look evil?