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Eradrain

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It seems that most servers are pretty light on content, either restricting themselves to the CEP, or having just one or two small supplementary haks.

Are there any active servers with lots of custom content?  I'm talking not using the CEP, but using in-house haks that are just as large.  Not just art resources but custom spells and classes and abilities and feats as well (And real custom spells/feats, with 2da and .tlk entries, not just widgets or cleverly scripted workarounds).  Maybe some in-house content that isn't available anywhere else?

Modifié par Eradrain, 29 août 2010 - 08:45 .


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Shadooow

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HG maybe? They uses only CEP2, but as far as spells/feats/classes matter, they got very much stuff on that and unique. The problem is that its too strange I mean, most guys keep their custom classes/spells/feats in touch with dnd manual. HG not, most of things there are completely made up and its quite strange. However, balanced though.

Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 29 août 2010 - 11:01 .


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Yes, there are PWs like that.  I suggest checking out The World of Aenea.

Constantly expanding custom content collection, much of it found nowhere else. The links in my signature are just part of the samples I've publicly released. :)

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While we only use the CEP as far as HAKs go, we have spent YEARS creating custom content including spells, and many in-game capabilities. I strongly suggest you check out ArgentumRegio 'The City of Dohral' at 66.232.100.90 --- be sure to go through the tutorial (aka Noob U.) to get an eyefull of what we have done.




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ShaDoOoW wrote...

HG maybe? They uses only CEP2, but as far as spells/feats/classes matter, they got very much stuff on that and unique. The problem is that its too strange I mean, most guys keep their custom classes/spells/feats in touch with dnd manual. HG not, most of things there are completely made up and its quite strange. However, balanced though.

ehye_khandee wrote...

While we only use the CEP as far as
HAKs go, we have spent YEARS creating custom content including spells,
and many in-game capabilities. I strongly suggest you check out
ArgentumRegio 'The City of Dohral' at 66.232.100.90 --- be sure to go
through the tutorial (aka Noob U.) to get an eyefull of what we have
done.

How do you guys have custom spells without non-CEP haks?  You need a custom talk table and 2da entries.

I'm really not interested in "We only use the CEP but we have tons of scripted stuff" style servers, nothing personal to those who are fans of that.  Just not my cup of tea, I'm not a huge fan of the CEP.

As for HG...I've heard great things, but I'm looking for a roleplay server.  HG is action, iirc.  Also, it's just CEP, which, again, is a No for me.

I'll check out Aenea, though it's listed as Action.

Are there any others?

Modifié par Eradrain, 29 août 2010 - 11:44 .


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Eradrain wrote...
How do you guys have custom spells without non-CEP haks?  You need a custom talk table and 2da entries.

I'm really not interested in "We only use the CEP but we have tons of scripted stuff" style servers, nothing personal to those who are fans of that.  Just not my cup of tea, I'm not a huge fan of the CEP.


Actually your selling yourself short then. We also use only the CEP and have about 15 new spells and several other scripted systems that we can fudge it.

I understand it is not what you are looking for but just letting you know some of us ONLY CEP servers have as much Custom built in as those who have quite a few extra haks.

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I'm not selling myself short, mate. I've played on uncountable CEP-only servers, including TSM. While some of them were very good (And TSM is certainly among the best!), none of them can field, for example, custom classes.

Or true custom spells, that actually show up in your spell book as their own entries, and aren't just fudged or simulated by gaming the system somehow (This sort of thing breaks immersion for me in a huge way, I just can't stand it).

And nobody's disputing that you have a lot of content. What I'm saying is that you don't have the kind of content I'm looking for. For example, I think the Bioware tilesets are ugly, and most of the CEP additions to them just make them uglier. I want to wander around in areas like Six's Wild Woods or the CODI Sigil tilesets. I want to play custom classes, and enjoy custom spells.

I respect that your tastes tend in a different direction, but this is my thread, and this is what I want. So let's not start an argument. If you know any RP-intensive servers like that that are currently active, please forward a link.

Modifié par Eradrain, 30 août 2010 - 12:04 .


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Prisoners of the Mist, a large Ravenloft server.



Gatecrashers, which unfortunately seems to be fading. A heavily customized planescape server.

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Oh god, Gatecrashers. Never, ever again.



Might check out Prisoners of the Mist, though. What sort of content do they use?

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Eradrain wrote...
 (And TSM is certainly among the best!)


Thanks for that.

And I agree and having been trying to figure out a way to do new classes and spells though i think CEP is doing something right now too but yes it is your thread so my suggestions would be;

Myth Drannor (I hear they have some haks and such and have some good turnout and such.)

The Forgotten Realms North

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"I want to wander around in areas like Six's Wild Woods or the CODI Sigil tilesets"



Ironically CEP offers the Sigil Tilesets. Good luck with your search though, just found that kinda funny. :)

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Eradrain wrote...

Oh god, Gatecrashers. Never, ever again.

Might check out Prisoners of the Mist, though. What sort of content do they use?


Many large Haks. It's been years since I played there, basicly since they introduced crafting, a feature I hate with a vengeance. I don't remember the names. I thought Gatecrashers LOOKED good, although there was a lot of dubious "roleplay" going os. :? It's been a long time since I've played there as well. I just see them on gamespy, and take note that they still exist, and that PotM apparantly have a large player-base still.

Modifié par TMZuk, 30 août 2010 - 12:21 .


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Eradrain wrote...

How do you guys have custom spells without non-CEP haks?  You need a custom talk table and 2da entries.

I'm really not interested in "We only use the CEP but we have tons of scripted stuff" style servers, nothing personal to those who are fans of that.  Just not my cup of tea, I'm not a huge fan of the CEP.

Neither I, and neither am I fan of HG style custom spells/class/feats and changes.

The way the HG does it is by expanding and modifying the spells/classes/feats whether you met some conditions or not. For example no spell on HG has cap, eg. greater magic weapon can go up to +15 (or more, consider all this info as a brief example), damage spells are uncapped etc. Also if the character has an "quasiclass" the spells behave differently like having better DC, better damage etc.

The classes on HG are also heavily customized and there are so called quasiclasses - the chosen class combinations that if you met some prerequisites giving your character awesome bonuses. So if you combine wizard with Weapon Master you gain extra power to chosen spells and maybe some melee power too.

The feats and skills are also heavily modified, especially some unused feats like improved parry etc.

And there are legendary levels, 41-60,I believe the HG was first server which came with this feature, now they share their solution at vault. The HG uses NWNX for many stuff so most things there are not possible to do withing default NWN engine.

For TLK they offer for download modified dialog.tlk file (there is issue that it shows the new texts in all NWN modules, not just HG).

Im not fan of this approach, but whatever, they call it custom spells/classes.

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Eradrain wrote...

It seems that most servers are pretty
light on content, either restricting themselves to the CEP, or having
just one or two small supplementary haks.

Are there any active servers with lots
of custom content?  I'm talking not using the CEP, but using in-house
haks that are just as large.  Not just art resources but custom spells
and classes and abilities and feats as well (And real custom
spells/feats, with 2da and .tlk entries, not just widgets or cleverly
scripted workarounds).  Maybe some in-house content that isn't available
anywhere else?



Avlis has used quite a bit of CEP in the past, but have not restricted ourselves to it. We have custom classes (such as the Nine Holy Warriors), races, abilities (ie: the Shadowdancer's shadow jump or Assassin's casting spells silently -- among many others), modified psionics, the entire list of spells are hooked (all 295, of which 77 are not NWN standard spells), among a variety of other non-art resources (which we also have a lot of - such as unique walling, floors, etc. developed by our very own player by the name of Buddha)

I'm short on time, so I'll just send you a link showing some of the custom things we use:

General - http://wiki.avlis.or...atures_of_Avlis
Detailed - http://wiki.avlis.or...stems_and_Tools

Any questions, feel free to ask!

-Darkfire

Modifié par Darkfire_Avlis, 30 août 2010 - 03:02 .


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lordofworms

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Not to plug my own work but...

http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=7716



its not guge on custom classes or spells but it is huge on visuals and the bets content I could find, and what I couldn't I made.

you can check out the server directly at: 24.25.137.42 :5121



it doesn't use any CEP but the haks I built are just as large..lol



or download the mod and play for yourself or some friends. It uses alot of custom scripted items and such and but mostly all my tilesets, some of six's, maxams, to name a few. all my creature revamps and pretty much anything that I could do to make it NOT look like the original game.



sadly no one is ever on it and I am just not agood enough DM but its scripted well enough (from what I am told by players) that it is still very enjoyable.



it may still not be what your looking for but ...hey figured I'd give it a shot.



~low


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The Forgotten Islands only Use CEP 2.2 since we believe that we can make a lot of cool things with as less haks as possible.
(seeing that some haks manage to give players trouble on other server)

We are a small community, through the week it can be quite empty but in the weekend there are always some people on. If there arnt people on then DM's are on to make it fun and we have a lot to offer, like trade skill's like crafting your own weapons and armor, ride-able horses and more interesting content you might fidure out ingame.

We have special races, working on custom classes, our own loot system.

If you are interested then please send me a message or visit our forum that will give you all the information you will need.


http://theforgotteni....freeforums.org

Hope we will see you soon ingame!

:3

Modifié par Who said that I, 30 août 2010 - 10:38 .


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Eradrain wrote...

ehye_khandee wrote...

While we only use the CEP as far as
HAKs go, we have spent YEARS creating custom content including spells,
and many in-game capabilities. I strongly suggest you check out
ArgentumRegio 'The City of Dohral' at 66.232.100.90 --- be sure to go
through the tutorial (aka Noob U.) to get an eyefull of what we have
done.

How do you guys have custom spells without non-CEP haks?  You need a custom talk table and 2da entries.

I'm really not interested in "We only use the CEP but we have tons of scripted stuff" style servers, nothing personal to those who are fans of that.  Just not my cup of tea, I'm not a huge fan of the CEP.

I'll check out Aenea, though it's listed as Action.

Are there any others?


How we do the custom spells without a HAK?  The main ingredient there is our lead scripter, who is just shy of her masters degree and is pure genius. It is all in the scripting and our scripting is second to none. Come see what we've tricked out this old game to do. Seeing is believing. And note, if you like RP, you need to see what this server does, we have the one and only Immersion Tool.

Hope to see you online.

BTW, the main server (online now) is CEP as the only HAK, the new servers will use more HAK based custom content and should be online in test mode within a month or two of the main server's achieving version exiting beta (we've been in beta for a long while - we are perfectionists here).

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lordofworms wrote...

Not to plug my own work but...
http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=7716


~low


Oh please, plug away... your work is awesome, from what I've seen. ^_^

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Jenna WSI wrote...

"I want to wander around in areas like Six's Wild Woods or the CODI Sigil tilesets"

Ironically CEP offers the Sigil Tilesets. Good luck with your search though, just found that kinda funny. :)

Note that using CEP doesnt mean anything. CEP is too big that nobody can use more than 30% its content and you can't predict if there are ares in the Sigil tileset or not, I would be very curious about this anyway as tilesets have been added very recently. But if someone uses lets say _six's Wild Woods its very much probably that there are areas made in this tileset.

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There is a new ... yeah NEW .. NWN persistent realm that has a LOT of custom content and is looking for players, DMs and Developers alike. :wizard:

Check out the projects page (Empires of the Sands) or just go to their website: www.Empiresofthesands.com

Modifié par Zhurrie, 30 août 2010 - 06:58 .


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Avlis has piles of custom content, custom races, 8 custom Holy Warriors, dynamic models for kobolds, shaahesk, goblins, ogres, and gnolls, uses 17 tilesets both custom modified and gleaned from the vault, monsters from various projects, custom magic systems, animal companion training system, barbarian rage system, 100% spellhooking with 300+ spells not included in NWN1...

We have a lot of custom content. That's not all of it!

http://www.avlis.org

-spool32

Modifié par spool32, 30 août 2010 - 07:30 .


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Higher Ground uses an optional hak package called HG Enhanced to accomplish most of the added content not available in CEP such as new spells, without breaking immersion with things such as items or other script magic used to cast "new spells". For example, the 3.5e spellcasting abilities were added for assassins and blackguards along with many new spells, complete with radial casting integration into the GUI.

It's a fine line to be walked between having enough custom content, to entice players looking for something new, and having so much content that players can't be bothered to spend time downloading just to see if they even like playing on the server. Higher Ground does not rebuild the game from the ground up with custom content, so I would not call it "extensive".

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lordofworms wrote...

Not to plug my own work but...
http://nwvault.ign.c....Detail&id=7716

~low


LOW and Amethyst are two people's work that I would kill for our server to use haks of...your stuff is awesome and when i build modules under my other name I use both of your works because it is so darn good.

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My own server uses 200+ new abilities/spells, 90 new skills, and 100 new feats, with 13 new base classes to replace the originals. However, it doesn't really conform to D&D standards, if that's what you're after. Currently it's in testing but should be up in the coming weeks. There is a large amount of hak work involved, with the 'large' download being 2 GB, and it is all self-created over the past year and a half.

Modifié par Rubies, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:55 .