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[Tritachion]

Hum.. seems I'm one of the few folks that told the council to take their spectre-status someplace dark and smelly. DoubleRussia's statement hits the nail on the head. You return from the dead after 2 years, with serious PROOF of a reaper/collector threat - and they go all "Meh, not our problem" on you again. It just would've felt completely wrong being reinstated as a spectre "just because".. I safed their lifes when Nazara wanted to eat the citadel alive, ran every darn errant they wanted me to, played nice and silent all the way through pt1 .. and when I come back, they state that its none of their business? Now I even stopped the collectors from.. (duh) collecting all of the human inhabitants in the milky way. I'm definately not agreeing with what the IM or Cerberus wants the course of humanity to be (and the methods he's using) - but I would've felt like cheating myself if I had bow down and accepted the spectre-status again.

Nyoka is right, too: Shepard is nowhere near a superhero. She's a human with a mind of her own. I am curious what Bioware will do with all these loose ends in ME3.. I have the reapers visiting, I have Cerberus on my heels and I turned down the councils spectre offer - as Garrus ironically said: "You sure know how to make yourself new enemies". Well, I still think it was the right decision NOT to be the councils puppy again. Even though in ME2 it's merely a title with a few tiny references here and there.

The only thing I would NOT like at all is if Bioware relies onto "Spectre Shepard" in ME3 too much, as to the point that all those that declined the offer, cannot experience the same game content that those get, who regained spectrestatus.

Unrelated sidenote: It definately gave me a darn good feeling telling the unadorned truth, instead of humping their knees all over again.

[N7 Agent]

being a spectre was the best part of mass effect
no limits to what you could do

[Jadzaea]

Personally, I think it might play a part in diplomacy with other races. If you had your Spectre status reinstated, the other Council races might be more willing to give you more assistance than if you weren't one (especially Turians). The only way you could have it reinstated is if the council was still multi-race.

To me, it's another tool against the Reapers. And we're apparently going to need all the help we can get (including Conrad Verner as a meat shield. Is that an option? Or the reporter.).

[Draak-Messith]

Sorry for the necromancy, but....Something I've not noticed in this thread....


[SPOILERS!!]
People seem to be forgetting the events that take place at the end of Arrival. The Alliance basically grounded Shepard and were going to place him/her on trial for what the galaxy sees as an unprovoked attack on a batarian system resulting in the deaths of around 30,000 colonists. I'm not sure if the Council will be keeping Shepard as a Spectre, regardless of any other conditions simply because they discharged Saren from the Spectres based on voice evidence that he was working with an avowed enemy of the Council that had attacked a Citadel race.

Shepard essentially committed mass murder (though, in retrospect, it was either that or Reaper indoctrination, husk formation, and etc....Which still happened anyway). Pretty sure that they'd see him/her as The Worst Human EVER. Though, with undeniable proof that the Reapers are real, and attacking, they may just have finally admit that they dismissed that claim far too early.

Won't know for sure until ME3.
[SPOILERS END...PARTIALLY!!!}

Anderson makes mention of Shepard having been a Council Spectre in the demo, and he uses past tense...So I doubt the Commander is still a Spectre. There may be reinstatement in more ways than one, however, with the threat of the Reapers being very real.

[RVallant]

Draak-Messith wrote...

Sorry for the necromancy, but....Something I've not noticed in this thread....


[SPOILERS!!]
People seem to be forgetting the events that take place at the end of Arrival. The Alliance basically grounded Shepard and were going to place him/her on trial for what the galaxy sees as an unprovoked attack on a batarian system resulting in the deaths of around 30,000 colonists. I'm not sure if the Council will be keeping Shepard as a Spectre, regardless of any other conditions simply because they discharged Saren from the Spectres based on voice evidence that he was working with an avowed enemy of the Council that had attacked a Citadel race.

Shepard essentially committed mass murder (though, in retrospect, it was either that or Reaper indoctrination, husk formation, and etc....Which still happened anyway). Pretty sure that they'd see him/her as The Worst Human EVER. Though, with undeniable proof that the Reapers are real, and attacking, they may just have finally admit that they dismissed that claim far too early.

Won't know for sure until ME3.
[SPOILERS END...PARTIALLY!!!}

Anderson makes mention of Shepard having been a Council Spectre in the demo, and he uses past tense...So I doubt the Commander is still a Spectre. There may be reinstatement in more ways than one, however, with the threat of the Reapers being very real.

You're forgetting the demo dialogue is for 'new' gamers. They never got reinstated in ME2 and won't be at the start of ME3. Those who played from 1 throughout will probably be the exception to the rule.

Also, afaik, it's an Earth matter, Shepard is relieved of command nothing more and nothing less. It's unlikely the council will have bothered getting involved in an 'Earth/human matter'. Moreso because the 'trial' keeps Shepard out of the way.

[Draak-Messith]

RVallant wrote...



You're forgetting the demo dialogue is for 'new' gamers. They never got reinstated in ME2 and won't be at the start of ME3. Those who played from 1 throughout will probably be the exception to the rule.

Also, afaik, it's an Earth matter, Shepard is relieved of command nothing more and nothing less. It's unlikely the council will have bothered getting involved in an 'Earth/human matter'. Moreso because the 'trial' keeps Shepard out of the way.

True, and it's possible that the Council wouldn't have done anything about one of their agents attacking a non-Citadel affiliated species, such as the Batarians. We'll definitely find out in retail, I'm sure, but at this point I do have to ask just one question...

Just what will Spectre Shepard's debrief be after this one? It had better involve getting to kick that Turian councillor hard enough to knock his facial markings off!

[Fonsy_Wiborg]

Well...

{SPOILERS}

Seeing as I got reinstated as a spectre in ME2, and knowing what is going on on ME3 I have only one question... Remember when in ME1 admiral Hackett says that shepard now only answers to the council but he is still a human and thus gets him a buch of side quests? what the hell happened to all that in ME3? I keep seeing hackett and Anderson giving direct orders to Shepard, even Anderson reinstating him in the alliance forces he still is a spectre and thus out of the chain of command. he doesn't answer to their orders anymore (unless he wants)

{END OF SPOILERS}

I think it was a total fluke from bioware there... but hey thats just my opinion.