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Male on Male Romance for Hawke (updated - S/S romances confirmed)


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#251
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MariSkep wrote...

scootermcgaffin wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

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Zevran, Leliana, Isabella...maybe being bi is a prerequisite for being a Rogue.


It fits with their characters and backstories. Don't think either Howe was bisexual.

Honestly, my biggest problem with Zevran (really, my only problem with Zevran, he's actually my favorite character in the game, other than this) was that they kept trying to explain or justify his bisexuality. "Oh well the prostitutes and assassins and I promise I prefer women and and and!" Just let him be bi. Sometimes people like boys and girls, it's okay!


I know what you mean. At first I thought it was just Zevran trying to put my fem CE at ease but when I got the same dialog with my male pcs and it just kept piling on I couldn't help but think the same thing.

Yea I wasn't too keen on Zevran saying more than once that the male gender is second best for him.

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Adriano87 - reported. Please keep your contributions to the thread constructive. Anything less than intelligently and tactfully put objections are likely to be viewed as basic trolling. Social awareness and social consideration are your friends here - don't respond without them

Modifié par shootist70, 31 août 2010 - 12:05 .


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Can we please end these disgusting threads? The first 2 were locked for a reason. There is absolutely no need for gay romance in DA 2. Either replay DA and have your jollies with Zevran or subscribe to a gay dating site. This kind of thing iS NOT NEEDED in a video game to appease the few horny gays and turn off many thousands of straight gamers.

What he said in soft way:
Join Porn Sites for achieving your favorite romance in more real style. Bioware Video Games are famous for Role Playing, Story and Action ... not for its pornography. also Asaris doesn't count as ******-or bisexual because they're one gender and an one-gender race is beyond your comprehension you Punks ... so ME3 will be free from Abnormal sexual contents. DA2 is better to be in ME2 style of Romance so it will be best for everyone.

And you want to angry Fox News? eh ..

Conclusion: ME3 and DA2 will be free from ******-Bi Sexual contents. If any DLC becomes available about this matter, it will be for a price (though not too much)


Why do people insist that we just want these things in games to get our rocks off?

The keyword here is "ROMANCE", not "rump in the sack" or "having a good lay". Please tell me that you do know the difference between love and lust.

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@wowpwnslol

You have been temp banned for obvious, trolling and bigoted remarks. If you can't DISCUSS something civilly, like what a forum is made for, than it's better to say nothing at all.

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I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.


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For a real insight into homosexual warrior bonding, and how gay love vows were used in a powerful, intimate warrior pact, I'd strongly suggest researching the Theban Sacred Band, if you havn't done already (this goes to Bioware also). As I've said before, it offers far stronger roleplay models than the broken character types we've seen so far.

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Arttis wrote...

I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.


You don't see people demanding heterosexual romances to be patch only. Image IPB

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Russalka wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.


You don't see people demanding heterosexual romances to be patch only. Image IPB

Your point???
This is not a heterosexual romance thread so obviously not.

Modifié par Arrtis, 31 août 2010 - 12:22 .


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Arttis wrote...

I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.

Why exactly ? Because putting that into a patch would be the second worst possible solution imageable ( only a DLC would be worse)
Reasons why this would be bad:
1.)Supporters of s/s content would be angry about the additional obstactle of having to download the content, instead of just having it present in the vanilla game
2:) Opposers would not be satisfied, because the content still exists.
3.) Any content seperatly released needs to be rated (at least in germany and probably everywhere else that has ratings for video games) the cost for this lies with the publisher, meaning that such a patch would be pretty expensive.
So such a patch would manage to be offensive to everyone while still costing extra money to make.

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Wittand25 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.

Why exactly ? Because putting that into a patch would be the second worst possible solution imageable ( only a DLC would be worse)
Reasons why this would be bad:
1.)Supporters of s/s content would be angry about the additional obstactle of having to download the content, instead of just having it present in the vanilla game
2:) Opposers would not be satisfied, because the content still exists.
3.) Any content seperatly released needs to be rated (at least in germany and probably everywhere else that has ratings for video games) the cost for this lies with the publisher, meaning that such a patch would be pretty expensive.
So such a patch would manage to be offensive to everyone while still costing extra money to make.

1.They still get their content.
2.More than you think would be satisfied.
3.put it vanilla for certain countries.
New solution DLC!=]
You can enjoy games without spending 5 minutes to 30 minutes talking to and romancing a person.:D

Modifié par Arrtis, 31 août 2010 - 12:23 .


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What a load of horsecrap.

This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.


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Arrtis wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I would like male on male options to be put into a patch form.

Why exactly ? Because putting that into a patch would be the second worst possible solution imageable ( only a DLC would be worse)
Reasons why this would be bad:
1.)Supporters of s/s content would be angry about the additional obstactle of having to download the content, instead of just having it present in the vanilla game
2:) Opposers would not be satisfied, because the content still exists.
3.) Any content seperatly released needs to be rated (at least in germany and probably everywhere else that has ratings for video games) the cost for this lies with the publisher, meaning that such a patch would be pretty expensive.
So such a patch would manage to be offensive to everyone while still costing extra money to make.

1.They still get their content.
2.More than you think would be satisfied.
3.put it vanilla for certain countries.
New solution DLC!=]
You can enjoy games without spending 5 minutes to 30 minutes talking to and romancing a person.:D


better solution.

here's a straw. Guess what I'm going to tell you to do?

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Russalka wrote...

What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.

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Arrtis wrote...

Russalka wrote...

What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


Well that's awful boring and artificial.

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They have already carved out a niche of an RPG adventure, almost as a good novel, that the main character has romance options. They said in the FAQ that romances are in, that is final. If you don't want romance, don't pursue them.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Russalka wrote...

What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


Well that's awful boring and artificial.

Well better than ME2 romances.

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What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


Because that's in anyway believable. 

Modifié par MariSkep, 31 août 2010 - 12:28 .


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MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Russalka wrote...

What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


Because that's on anyway believable. 

Are you trying to say it is not believable?
I believe it is very beliveable.
At least it would be new.
Or do you want another zevran...copy and paste?

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This is no longer a relevant discussion.

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Why were talking about the male on male romance and the type of romances people might like right?
THe character should be a dwarf just to get a dwarf romance out of the way.

Modifié par Arrtis, 31 août 2010 - 12:32 .


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Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

Russalka wrote...

What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


Because that's on anyway believable. 

Are you trying to say it is not believable?
I believe it is very beliveable.
At least it would be new.
Or do you want another zevran...copy and paste?


People hit on you. It happens. Lelianna hit on you. Morrigan hit on you. Oghren hit on you. Alistair... sorta hits on you. Zevran was just more of a flirt.

Don't like it? Here's that straw I passed you earlier.

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Let's knock some of these garbage contrived arguments on the head here with clear reasoning.



Sex, romance and the hero's journey have been intertwined since the Homeric epics. You can't watch an action adventure movie, or read fiction of the same genre, without getting it. Any society without immature hang-ups can appreciate why it's always in there - it's a powerful emotive device that makes characters 'human'. It puts more at stake on the table for every character involved. Considering that homosexuality is probably as old as humanity itself, why shouldn't it be represented in exactly the same fictive ways? What reason is there to exclude them from that sort of universally accepted enjoyment?

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Leliana did not hit on me.

I totally hit on her!

Same with morrigan.

And alistair.

Zevran was the only one to hit on me first.

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Arrtis wrote...

Leliana did not hit on me.
I totally hit on her!
Same with morrigan.
And alistair.
Zevran was the only one to hit on me first.


Because that was his nature. Get over it.

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Arrtis wrote...

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What a load of horsecrap.
This isn't a topic about one side's special treatment, it is to put the point across that homosexual romances are as normal next to heterosexual romances and likely will be in the game. And that's what we are discussing here, what kind of a companion will it be and how will the romance develop.

There should be no sex in the romance.
It should be very brief.
THe PC must be the one with the option to hit on the romancee and not ahve the romancee hit on the PC.


I'll be all for this, only if straight romances get the exact same treatment too.

You have some... interesting ideas when it comes to dealing with this situation, but I don't think you get it. Most gay people just want equal treatment. Going through all the trouble to create a patch (or DLC which is worse) is just plain insulting.

I mean, I actually that the many people who are afraid of gay people have their right to be homophobic, as strange as their beliefs are to me. But only as long as they are tolerant about it. We're not forcing you to accept it completely if you really are unable to, it will be nice for you to just accept that we are part of society instead of trying to find ways to skirt around the issues.