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[Arrtis]

Saibh wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

So why against making the bi/gay male option more like leliana or someone where you really hit on them first to start the romance?

We have intent icons, now. There will be no accidents.

Thats not what I am talking about.
I am talking about having a Bi/gay male LI that does not hit on you until you do...sort of...

[Arrtis]

I never got the whole star speech til after i intiated romance and so on...you intiate romance with her as male I believe by flirting with her.....otherwise I am sort of confident that she does not do all of that...

[Frega]

Arrtis wrote...

Thats not what I am talking about.
I am talking about having a Bi/gay male LI that does not hit on you until you do...sort of...

...are you serious? asking that in this thread. you know you're asking a gay man right?

Oh sure, its perfectly fine for only bi/gay to receive this special "privilege". /sarcasm

[Arrtis]

This is a male on male romance thread...not a romance thread....trying to stay on topic...

[John Epler]

Occasionally, people will flirt with you even if you haven't indicated interest. I would say that most everyone experiences this at some point in their adult life. That doesn't mean you're forced to reciprocate the feelings, of course, nor does it mean that you can't turn them down - whether gently or harshly will depend both on you and on the situation you find yourself in.



This kind of behaviour is by no means determined by one's sexual orientation. It's not something associated with being a gay or bisexual person, but rather being a person, full stop. The only thing sexual orientation determines is who you're attracted to, and I'd say it's a little silly to suggest that a character should be more or less prone to uninvited flirtation based on sexuality as opposed to personality.

[Saibh]

JohnEpler wrote...

Occasionally, people will flirt with you even if you haven't indicated interest. I would say that most everyone experiences this at some point in their adult life. That doesn't mean you're forced to reciprocate the feelings, of course, nor does it mean that you can't turn them down - whether gently or harshly will depend both on you and on the situation you find yourself in.

Unless you're playing ME1, in which case 'Not interested' means 'Kaidan, go have your period somewhere else, you demented Elvis look-alike.'

[Anarya]

Saibh wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

Occasionally, people will flirt with you even if you haven't indicated interest. I would say that most everyone experiences this at some point in their adult life. That doesn't mean you're forced to reciprocate the feelings, of course, nor does it mean that you can't turn them down - whether gently or harshly will depend both on you and on the situation you find yourself in.

Unless you're playing ME1, in which case 'Not interested' means 'Kaidan, go have your period somewhere else, you demented Elvis look-alike.'

Or ME2 where not interested means "Jacob I will undress you with my eyes and use my bedroom voice whenever I talk to you about ANYTHING" regardless of whether I'm going to start romancin' ya.

[Saibh]

Anarya wrote...

Or ME2 where not interested means "Jacob I will undress you with my eyes and use my bedroom voice whenever I talk to you about ANYTHING" regardless of whether I'm going to start romancin' ya.

"Jacob, you've seen me naked. You've seen me naked as a slab of rotting meat, and wasn't it hot? I need love, Jacob. It's been too long. Undress your chocolate wonders."

[Anarya]

Saibh wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Or ME2 where not interested means "Jacob I will undress you with my eyes and use my bedroom voice whenever I talk to you about ANYTHING" regardless of whether I'm going to start romancin' ya.

"Jacob, you've seen me naked. You've seen me naked as a slab of rotting meat, and wasn't it hot? I need love, Jacob. It's been too long. Undress your chocolate wonders."

Oooh yeah. HOT.

[Russalka]

Chocolate wonders?

EDIT: Not to derail the topic though.
I wanted to ask about romances between women, but I noticed again that the thread is MALE ON MALE.
Not that I mind the image though, but still.

Modifié par Russalka, 31 août 2010 - 05:44 .

[Saibh]

Russalka wrote...

Chocolate wonders?

EDIT: Not to derail the topic though.
I wanted to ask about romances between women, but I noticed again that the thread is MALE ON MALE.
Not that I mind the image though, but still.

We do have a very old thread about women's LIs, but maybe a reboot is in order.

[David Gaider]

As John suggested, there is some flirtation. With the icons, however, it is now very clear which responses will respond to that flirtation and encourage the romance and which ones will stop it cold. And if you're on the receiving end of some unwelcome flirtation, you need only shut it down.



Are we going to arrange things so you need never be exposed to any evidence of homosexuality in the world whatsoever? No, we're not. The characters are just people, and will act as their personalities dictate, no more.

[Frega]

Russalka wrote...

Chocolate wonders?

EDIT: Not to derail the topic though.
I wanted to ask about romances between women, but I noticed again that the thread is MALE ON MALE.
Not that I mind the image though, but still.

female on female doesn't gross out straight guys, quite the opposite. so it wasnt a problem to begin with.

[eucatastrophe]

Frega wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Chocolate wonders?

EDIT: Not to derail the topic though.
I wanted to ask about romances between women, but I noticed again that the thread is MALE ON MALE.
Not that I mind the image though, but still.

female on female doesn't gross out straight guys, quite the opposite. so it wasnt a problem to begin with.

The double standard is frankly very disgusting although understandable. 

[Arrtis]

So they will ALWAYS flirt with you...the romance options?

Or sometimes?

[Greifvogel]

Arrtis wrote...

So they will ALWAYS flirt with you...the romance options?
Or sometimes?

Relax, no one's going to fondle your butt.

[Arrtis]

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

So they will ALWAYS flirt with you...the romance options?
Or sometimes?

I would guess it depends on the individual in question.

like I was saying for many pages....I rather have the bi/gay option be the one to not always flirt.....seems people like to have problem with that.

[BP20125810]

The allistar romance isn't even that obvious unless you reallly YRY for it. The new dialogue system will also help avoid confusion.

[iamthespark]

I have to say a thanks to David for clearing up all this mess on homosexuality and where the company/Dragon Age stands on it, it makes me happy.



As for this new question of "will the NPCs initiate/flirt with you" I can only hope they *do*!! Just like in the real world. We get flirted by lots of people - people we like, people we don't like, etc. I think any time a NPC initiates a conversation with the player it adds a level of immersion to the game. Loved that about DA.

[John Epler]

iamthespark wrote...

I have to say a thanks to David for clearing up all this mess on homosexuality and where the company/Dragon Age stands on it, it makes me happy.

As for this new question of "will the NPCs initiate/flirt with you" I can only hope they *do*!! Just like in the real world. We get flirted by lots of people - people we like, people we don't like, etc. I think any time a NPC initiates a conversation with the player it adds a level of immersion to the game. Loved that about DA.

Heh. When I made my comment, I was actually referring to the real world! I didn't mean to imply anything about our LIs or DA2.

Thus why David is the lead writer and I'm a cinematic designer. My ideas are not always communicated as clearly as I might wish

[Arrtis]

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

So they will ALWAYS flirt with you...the romance options?
Or sometimes?

I would guess it depends on the individual in question.

like I was saying for many pages....I rather have the bi/gay option be the one to not always flirt.....seems people like to have problem with that.

because your discomfort stems from your homphobia and I for one would prefer the writers not cater to your homophobic fears in their writing and create whatever characters they had originaly imagined.

Wow so now I am homophobic...great...glad you know me so well...glad your all phycologists....

[Frega]

Arrtis wrote...

Wow so now I am homophobic...great...glad you know me so well...glad your all phycologists....

Translation, "the writers are not going to cater to your discomforts. npcs will hit on you if they are written that way. you will not be given the option to turn off male LI hitting on your male PC." Basically what Gaider said.

Epler- "NPCs will hit on you if they want to, just like in real life."

Modifié par Frega, 31 août 2010 - 06:10 .