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[shootist70]

Bobad wrote...

My ideal m/m romance:



Character more than physical existance, however having an LI that could turn into a jet fighter might lead to some interesting Top Gun style moments.

As well as some severe injuries.

[twincast]

Frega wrote...
I'm about 5'6" myself, I think. What is this benefit you speak of that I'm unaware?  Do tell.

Likewise.

And I can't bring myself to even consider anyone for romance I'd have to do more than tilt my head upward for to reach.

edit: The other way 'round as well, but that isn't a problem that's set to arise often.

Modifié par twincast, 01 septembre 2010 - 01:21 .

[oenis]

I don't like the reasoning they give behind not including M/M relationships; that it doesn't appeal to the majority enough to make it economically viable ... because couldn't that line of thinking also be applied to romances for female gamers? "The majority of gamers (straight males) aren't interested in male LIs, so we're just going to make female LIs." What ever happened to caring about making a quality product, instead of pinching pennies?

[upsettingshorts]

Their justification wasn't to say why they didn't think it was viable to include M/M. It was why all the gay options had to also be bi. At least that was my reading of it.

[Eudaemonium]

twincast wrote...

Frega wrote...
I'm about 5'6" myself, I think. What is this benefit you speak of that I'm unaware?  Do tell.

Likewise.

And I can't bring myself to even consider anyone for romance I'd have to do more than tilt my head upward for to reach.

edit: The other way 'round as well, but that isn't a problem that's set to arise often.

I'm 5'8. My girlfriend is 6'2. I deal. Though I do discourage her wearing heels at times.

[oenis]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Their justification wasn't to say why they didn't think it was viable to include M/M. It was why all the gay options had to also be bi. At least that was my reading of it.

Oh! Perhaps you're right. My reading of the forums lead me to believe the general attitude was, 'no one wants it, BW has a budget so less important stuff gets cut'. 

[Shadow_broker]

Why is there no Fem/fem romance thread?

Don't any lesbians play dragon age? or atleast some 14 year olds?

[Russalka]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Why is there no Fem/fem romance thread?
Don't any lesbians play dragon age? or atleast some 14 year olds?

Would be interesting to discuss, but it would no doubt derail. And no doubt due to the main group who plays romance between women - men. Wish I could be proven wrong, even suggesting it sounds bigoted.
Not saying men are bad, just saying the topic could attract the worst specimens.

[PsyrenY]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Their justification wasn't to say why they didn't think it was viable to include M/M. It was why all the gay options had to also be bi. At least that was my reading of it.

This was my understanding as well.

In other words, the subset of gamers that would care whether a m/m romance is explicitly gay as opposed to bi, is itself a subset of the gamers that just want an m/m romance to begin with, which is itself a subset of the game's target audience in general. Catering to such a niche would yield too few dividends for the work required, especially when the media would be satisfied just with the bi romances.

Just please Bioware, make our LI manly. He doesn't have to be Sten (though I wouldn't complain!) but by the Maker, not another elf!

[Jimmy Fury]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Why is there no Fem/fem romance thread?
Don't any lesbians play dragon age? or atleast some 14 year olds?

Probably because nobody has any doubts that a f/f romance will be available in some capacity. After what was said to "explain" no m/m romances in the ME series, there's some paranoia that we're going to hear it again now that DA2 has a more "third person narrative" angle with a "more defined protagonist".

[shootist70]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Probably because nobody has any doubts that a f/f romance will be available in some capacity.

Yep, I really can't see Bioware passing up on the opportunity to draw in a certain demographic with some 'hot lipstick lesbo action.' I should feel bad for generalising, but let's face it, it's true.

[LoveAsThouWilt]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

Why is there no Fem/fem romance thread?
Don't any lesbians play dragon age? or atleast some 14 year olds?

Probably because nobody has any doubts that a f/f romance will be available in some capacity. After what was said to "explain" no m/m romances in the ME series, there's some paranoia that we're going to hear it again now that DA2 has a more "third person narrative" angle with a "more defined protagonist".

Ditto, hence, my pessimism that since they are including a smexy macho macho man protagonist for DA2 that they will come out and say as they did with Shepard "he has a set IP, so no M/M romance options" and that'll be the end of that. If one can choose the characters very gender, than romance options are not "set peices" meaning that it in no way HINDERS to allow same-sex romances in the game. And by the, I do not mean only F/F.... Because we all know if romances DO occur in DA2, F/F will exist....Because they don't mind catering to the men that enjoy seeing women with one another or the lesbians (though I thing the former is whats on their mind than the later) but not to men that simply like MEN. Macho men like men too you know.

Hence why I said, if it is excluded while other options are included "M/F F/M F/F" then I will not be purchasing the game by way that the company would receive money: I'll get it used.

[Saibh]

eucatastrophe wrote...

Saibh wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

I agere with Jimmy Fury, I am not sure if I should be offended or not!

Really Saibh, you're selling us shorties short!

Eviscerate yourself, freak! Your height is not welcomed!

Geez.
You don't have to get short with me <_<

At first I was like..."Aw...:(" but then I was like "Pun! :lol:"

[KillTheLastRomantic]

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

Why is there no Fem/fem romance thread?
Don't any lesbians play dragon age? or atleast some 14 year olds?

Probably because nobody has any doubts that a f/f romance will be available in some capacity. After what was said to "explain" no m/m romances in the ME series, there's some paranoia that we're going to hear it again now that DA2 has a more "third person narrative" angle with a "more defined protagonist".

Ditto, hence, my pessimism that since they are including a smexy macho macho man protagonist for DA2 that they will come out and say as they did with Shepard "he has a set IP, so no M/M romance options" and that'll be the end of that. If one can choose the characters very gender, than romance options are not "set peices" meaning that it in no way HINDERS to allow same-sex romances in the game. And by the, I do not mean only F/F.... Because we all know if romances DO occur in DA2, F/F will exist....Because they don't mind catering to the men that enjoy seeing women with one another or the lesbians (though I thing the former is whats on their mind than the later) but not to men that simply like MEN. Macho men like men too you know.

Hence why I said, if it is excluded while other options are included "M/F F/M F/F" then I will not be purchasing the game by way that the company would receive money: I'll get it used.

Shoving an image of Hawke making out with pirate lady just to enfore his straightmaleness (in a similar way to Shepard/Miranda in the ME2 trailer) isn't exactly encouraging either.

If f/f is in and not m/m I doubt I'll even get DA2 used. I gave Mass Effect 2 a chance despite that and wished I hadn't bothered.

Modifié par Progressive_Stupidity1, 01 septembre 2010 - 05:03 .

[Saibh]

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Shoving an image of Hawke making out with pirate lady just to enfore his straightmaleness (in a similar way to Shepard/Miranda in the ME2 trailer) isn't exactly encouraging either.

If f/f is in and not m/m I doubt I'll even get DA2 used. I gave Mass Effect 2 a chance despite that and wished I hadn't bothered.

To be absolutely fair, we only ever saw clips of Warden/Morrigan or occasionally Warden/Leliana. This is to be expected.

[KillTheLastRomantic]

Saibh wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Shoving an image of Hawke making out with pirate lady just to enfore his straightmaleness (in a similar way to Shepard/Miranda in the ME2 trailer) isn't exactly encouraging either.

If f/f is in and not m/m I doubt I'll even get DA2 used. I gave Mass Effect 2 a chance despite that and wished I hadn't bothered.

To be absolutely fair, we only ever saw clips of Warden/Morrigan or occasionally Warden/Leliana. This is to be expected.

I suppose, I'm just incredibly cynical on the subject after ME2.  Though I've been very subtle about it, so you may not have noticed.

[Ad Dugg]

I made my Warden gay so if I do decide to make Hawke gay then I'm hoping I can romance Wade or Herren. More so Herren just to see if "he" is a Desire demon.

[Wittand25]

Saibh wrote...

Progressive_Stupidity1 wrote...

Shoving an image of Hawke making out with pirate lady just to enfore his straightmaleness (in a similar way to Shepard/Miranda in the ME2 trailer) isn't exactly encouraging either.

If f/f is in and not m/m I doubt I'll even get DA2 used. I gave Mass Effect 2 a chance despite that and wished I hadn't bothered.

To be absolutely fair, we only ever saw clips of Warden/Morrigan or occasionally Warden/Leliana. This is to be expected.

Not true the Zevran trailer had him and a red haired female warden making out. But with 90% probability we will only see he straight romances from Bioware, should non straight romances exist, some other source like a preview by a game site is probably the only way we will learn about them.

[CrookedAsylum]

As a female, I give my full support for male-on-male hotness. For purely unselfish reasons, of course.

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[Shadow_broker]

MariSkep wrote...

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

Hence why I said, if it is excluded while other options are included "M/F F/M F/F" then I will not be purchasing the game by way that the company would receive money: I'll get it used.

Right...used...


>_>

But I'm right with you. One of the reasons I haven't bought or played ME yet is I can't shake the 'for 13 year old boys' image I have of it in my head. Part of that image steming from the fact they were willing to include a lesbian romance (with an alien race designed specifically for the male libido) but decided their male protagonist couldn't possibly be gay because something, I never figured that out.

I don't appreciate being talked down and as far as I'm concerned (as a totally hetero male) that's an insult to my intelligence.

You haven't played ME
Asari(the monogendered) were designed to look femenine to fill the void for the lack of female aliens (which you see none of in ME1) And beyond that they don't really give the horny male gamer any more than the Horny female gamer (although kelly lesbian romance is in ME2 but not a full romance more like a striptease/flirtation)

You really need to pick up Mass effect, Just because lack of S/S romance is a bad reason to miss out on the series IMO

[Shadow_broker]

Also considering making the F/F thread but after my THE MAN THREAD thing, don't know if it's a good idea

[ErichHartmann]

MariSkep wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

LoveAsThouWilt wrote...

Hence why I said, if it is excluded while other options are included "M/F F/M F/F" then I will not be purchasing the game by way that the company would receive money: I'll get it used.

Right...used...


>_>

But I'm right with you. One of the reasons I haven't bought or played ME yet is I can't shake the 'for 13 year old boys' image I have of it in my head. Part of that image steming from the fact they were willing to include a lesbian romance (with an alien race designed specifically for the male libido) but decided their male protagonist couldn't possibly be gay because something, I never figured that out.

I don't appreciate being talked down and as far as I'm concerned (as a totally hetero male) that's an insult to my intelligence.

You haven't played ME
Asari(the monogendered) were designed to look femenine to fill the void for the lack of female aliens (which you see none of in ME1) And beyond that they don't really give the horny male gamer any more than the Horny female gamer (although kelly lesbian romance is in ME2 but not a full romance more like a striptease/flirtation)

You really need to pick up Mass effect, Just because lack of S/S romance is a bad reason to miss out on the series IMO

Those are the blue chicks with the huge racks and are all up for girl on girl action, right?

Yeah, I think I'll stick with my current bias against the series.

Your current bias is tainted because you don't know the actual lore of the Asari culture.  Don't assume anything.     

[AlanC9]

MariSkep wrote...
Those are the blue chicks with the huge racks and are all up for girl on girl action, right?

You say those like they're bad things....