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[wwwwowwww]

Saibh wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

I seriously don't get the fascination with this topic

Yes and now that you've voiced your disapproval, kindly leave.

****** off, I didn't disapprove of anything, but apparantly you have a reading comprehension problem so  your just going to assume.  Not understanding why everyone is fascinated with this topic is not the same as disapproving.

Please, if you can't be polite ("****** off" isn't polite) and begin to derail, I will alert a moderator.

The existence of this thread doesn't hurt you, and, as I said, some people want more options, or an option that includes their preference. That is the fascination, okay? 

Because the person I was addressing was so polite to me right? Give me a break.

I never said it hurt me, does everyone have comprehension problems today?

As for their being more preferences being the facination that's a farse, because this topic is about one thing only, not about options. So again I wonder what the facination is with m/m romancing. I mean it's something since it's got it's own specific thread. Someone felt the need to create one seperate from the "love interest" thread to just single out male on male. why?

As for the actual topic, I would imagine whoever it is bioware will do a great job with it just like they have in the past. Would have to get more about the story before really making a call on this because a Qunari wouldn't make much sense if it deals mainly with a Qunari invasion. Just my thoughts on it.

[Riona45]

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

Modifié par Riona45, 30 août 2010 - 05:06 .

[CrookedAsylum]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm a straight male who never roleplays any of the gay romances. They make me slightly uncomfortable, not because of the concept of homosexuality itself - which I'm perfectly fine with in day to day life and non-interactive media, but because I am consciously and unconsciously acting vicariously through the protagonist. Since I also don't usually like hurting people's feelings - whether they be real people or fictional characters in a game - I then have the displeasure of disappointing them by bluntly that they're barking up the wrong tree, because no one likes a tease either.

So with that being said, I absolutely totally 100% support there being gay romance options available. Why?

That they can experience romance storylines that they can relate to and are comfortable with. I don't want them to have to have the same reaction to Zevran trying to get into my pants that I did. They shouldn't have to resort to mods to change how the game labels the sexual identity of their character to get Alistair to be interested in them, as I imagine that is on some level demeaning.

I like you. I like your post. It reminds me of murderous unicorns and narwhals.

[Saibh]

wwwwowwww wrote...

Because the person I was addressing was so polite to me right? Give me a break.

I never said it hurt me, does everyone have comprehension problems today?

As for their being more preferences being the facination that's a farse, because this topic is about one thing only, not about options. So again I wonder what the facination is with m/m romancing. I mean it's something since it's got it's own specific thread. Someone felt the need to create one seperate from the "love interest" thread to just single out male on male. why?

As for the actual topic, I would imagine whoever it is bioware will do a great job with it just like they have in the past. Would have to get more about the story before really making a call on this because a Qunari wouldn't make much sense if it deals mainly with a Qunari invasion. Just my thoughts on it.

They were polite in their request asking you to leave, by my judgement. Whether they were right to is nonwithstanding. They misunderstood your intentions; it is possible to tell them they've done so without saying, "****** off". Please, understand, the thread doesn't deserve to be closed, okay?

There are threads for multiple options in the game. This is a thread about a particular one. There is a Lady Hawke thread, a Garrett Hawke thread, a female qunari companion thread, a female LIs thread, and so on. Also, homosexuality is controversial, and may or may not be included. People wish to show their opinions on the matter.

Modifié par Saibh, 30 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[ydaraishy]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Shemale thread got locked so I guess open-mindedness isn't as open as you'd think.

You might have got a better reaction if you didn't use offensive terminology in discussing that topic.

Modifié par ydaraishy, 30 août 2010 - 05:07 .

[Arttis]

Dont mind saibh.

Just ignore and lets get on topic.

I still think making romances optional patches to be a fix.

[Riona45]

wwwwowwww wrote...
As for their being more preferences being the facination that's a farse, because this topic is about one thing only, not about options.

It's about an option that some people want.  Many threads are originally only about one specific thing, so what's the problem in this case?

[Arttis]

Riona45 wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
As for their being more preferences being the facination that's a farse, because this topic is about one thing only, not about options.

It's about an option that some people want.  Many threads are originally only about one specific thing, so what's the problem in this case?

I still do not see why people think they might not get it.
HAVE FAITH IN BIOWARE.
On somethings.

[Lyssistr]

Riona45 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

Optional yes but without initial information about options.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

ydaraishy wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Shemale thread got locked so I guess open-mindedness isn't as open as you'd think.

You might have got a better reaction if you didn't use offensive terminology in discussing that topic.

There was no offensive terminology. As it just so happens, I happen to be friends with a number of  M2F transexuals who don't find my choice of words offensive.

Anyways, if you wish to discuss this, send me a private message as I'd rather not derail the topic any further than I already have.

[Saibh]

Lyssistr wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

Optional yes but without initial information about options.

We have intent icons, now, as I said in the OP.

[SerenityRebirth]

I'd have to say that I would like an Alistair type of character. Someone who is witty but also soft. I appreciated the incentive of adding Zevran (romancing him, in the end, was fulfilling and heartbreaking with my male elf's story), but it would be nice to not have such a sex-crazed partner.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I wonder how in favor the odds are that we'll get a male/male romance option. My question arises from an article I read on ign a while back regarding the lack of male/male in ME2. Bioware had mentioned the difference between first person and third person story telling (first person being the one that allowed for it, and third person [ME2] not). With the switch over to a third person, Mass Effect - like narrative, I wonder if the same idea of narration will apply, therefore canceling out male/male romance? Once again, I apologize for asking, but I am very curious to hear other's ideas.

Modifié par SerenityRebirth, 30 août 2010 - 05:12 .

[Lyssistr]

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

Optional yes but without initial information about options.

We have intent icons, now, as I said in the OP.

haha that's true 

[Arttis]

I think that one mage from awakenings would have made a perfect gay romance partner.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Shemale thread got locked so I guess open-mindedness isn't as open as you'd think.

Anyways, to be serious for a moment, can anyone imagine a male human getting it on with a male Quanari? It's considered dangerous for a woman(Sten suggested they needed a muzzle in addition to a fiery hot steel rod in order to get male to stop when it got "too painful") , but at least [some not-so-serious comments].

[Not-so-serious comments removed.]

LOL, for all intents and purpose, my post was serious. You just removed the parts that explained my basis for asking the question in the first place. Lighten up.

[Saibh]

SerenityRebirth wrote...

I'd have to say that I would like an Alistair type of character. Someone who is witty but also soft. I appreciated the incentive of adding Zevran (romancing him, in the end, was fulfilling and heartbreaking with my male elf's story), but it would be nice to have such a sex-crazed partner.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I wonder how in favor the odds are that we'll get a male/male romance option. My question arises from an article I read on ign a while back regarding the lack of male/male in ME2. Bioware had mentioned the difference between first person and third person story telling (first person being the one that allowed for it, and third person [ME2] not). With the switch over to a third person, Mass Effect - like narrative, I wonder if the same idea of narration will apply, therefore canceling out male/male romance? Once again, I apologize for asking, but I am very curious to hear other's ideas.

I personally don't consider that off-topic. If people can remain polite and not bigoted when stating their opinion (even if you disagree with the topic), I have no qualms. Disagreeing with someone is not qualms. Just don't get too angry, don't get too off-topic.

I've never liked that response of BioWare's. Some M/M romance was included in ME2--the remnants are still there for a Thane romance, and there was a promise for M/M in an earlier article for ME2. You were allowed to define a character with plenty of precision. You were also allowed to be exclusively lesbian. There was no reason that that same "predefined" personality couldn't be gay as well. I understand why they did it, but I think that argument was a major cop-out and many felt insulted by it.

Modifié par Saibh, 30 août 2010 - 05:20 .

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

It's an exposure issue. Not seeing gays in day to day life, in games, movies ect, you become uncomfortable when you finally do even if you didn't consider yourself holding any bias against them. Doesn't make much sense when you think about it but it is what it is. The best remedy of course is more exposure. :innocent:

 It's not a matter of exposure, it's that some people don't like to hang out with men that see them sexually. It's not the presence of gays we're discussing, its a gay relationship with the protagonist.

 FYI I've had plenty of exposure and have gay friends.

[realyoungjeezy]

SerenityRebirth wrote...

I'd have to say that I would like an Alistair type of character. Someone who is witty but also soft. I appreciated the incentive of adding Zevran (romancing him, in the end, was fulfilling and heartbreaking with my male elf's story), but it would be nice to not have such a sex-crazed partner.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I wonder how in favor the odds are that we'll get a male/male romance option. My question arises from an article I read on ign a while back regarding the lack of male/male in ME2. Bioware had mentioned the difference between first person and third person story telling (first person being the one that allowed for it, and third person [ME2] not). With the switch over to a third person, Mass Effect - like narrative, I wonder if the same idea of narration will apply, therefore canceling out male/male romance? Once again, I apologize for asking, but I am very curious to hear other's ideas.

In a way all companions besides Alistair were sex crazed.

[Saibh]

realyoungjeezy wrote...

SerenityRebirth wrote...

I'd have to say that I would like an Alistair type of character. Someone who is witty but also soft. I appreciated the incentive of adding Zevran (romancing him, in the end, was fulfilling and heartbreaking with my male elf's story), but it would be nice to not have such a sex-crazed partner.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I wonder how in favor the odds are that we'll get a male/male romance option. My question arises from an article I read on ign a while back regarding the lack of male/male in ME2. Bioware had mentioned the difference between first person and third person story telling (first person being the one that allowed for it, and third person [ME2] not). With the switch over to a third person, Mass Effect - like narrative, I wonder if the same idea of narration will apply, therefore canceling out male/male romance? Once again, I apologize for asking, but I am very curious to hear other's ideas.

In a way all companions besides Alistair were sex crazed.

Those crazy Wynne's and Sten's, don't you know it.

[Lord_Valandil]

Saibh wrote...

realyoungjeezy wrote...

SerenityRebirth wrote...

I'd have to say that I would like an Alistair type of character. Someone who is witty but also soft. I appreciated the incentive of adding Zevran (romancing him, in the end, was fulfilling and heartbreaking with my male elf's story), but it would be nice to not have such a sex-crazed partner.

I hope this isn't off topic, but I wonder how in favor the odds are that we'll get a male/male romance option. My question arises from an article I read on ign a while back regarding the lack of male/male in ME2. Bioware had mentioned the difference between first person and third person story telling (first person being the one that allowed for it, and third person [ME2] not). With the switch over to a third person, Mass Effect - like narrative, I wonder if the same idea of narration will apply, therefore canceling out male/male romance? Once again, I apologize for asking, but I am very curious to hear other's ideas.

In a way all companions besides Alistair were sex crazed.

Those crazy Wynne's and Sten's, don't you know it.

Not to mention the dog and Schmooples.

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...


 Voiceactors are pros and as long as they're paid, they'll do their job fine. It's players that will likely feel uncomfortable, personally I don't care much but tbh ~10 years ago I'd feel uncomfortable as well and wouldn't have gone through a game that made me uneasy.

Uncomfortable at what, though?  The romances in DA:O were all optional.  Even most of the party members were themselves optional.

It's an exposure issue. Not seeing gays in day to day life, in games, movies ect, you become uncomfortable when you finally do even if you didn't consider yourself holding any bias against them. Doesn't make much sense when you think about it but it is what it is. The best remedy of course is more exposure. :innocent:

 It's not a matter of exposure, it's that some people don't like to hang out with men that see them sexually. It's not the presence of gays we're discussing, its a gay relationship with the protagonist.

 FYI I've had plenty of exposure and have gay friends.

Sorry, mate (I really do mean that) but that line just gave me the biggest case of the giggles.

Anyway. In that I just try to remind people not every gay guy sees you sexually the same way I'm sure they don't see every woman they meet sexually. This really does sound like an exposure issue though imo. You aren't used to the lead being gay or possibly being gay (up to the player in this case) so you're uncomfortable when the situation presents itself.

I of course, can't define your life experiences for you so I'll drop it there.

I never said every gay sees every man sexually and as I said above, I have gay friends, so no I don't think every gay person I meet likes me. Please read carefully.

In this case, since we're talking about an in game romance, this situation will exist 100%. It is not about having a gay party member we're discussing, it's about a gay party member who likes the protagonist. 

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...
I never said every gay sees every man sexually and as I said above, I have gay friends, so no I don't think every gay person I meet likes me. Please read carefully.

In this case, since we're talking about an in game romance, this situation will exist 100%. It is not about having a gay party member we're discussing, it's about a gay party member who likes the protagonist. 

But how would that be any different than say having a female party member who liked the protaganist but the protagonist  didn't return her feelings?

Essentially there is no difference, never claimed there was any. This may be uncomfortable to a gay player.