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[eucatastrophe]

I'm sorry, but I differ with you completely.

There was nothing Elvish about Zevran.
He was an Antivan through and through. Though we didn't get a Dwarf romance so I can see why the developers did not feature an Elf-elf if you know what I mean.

I personally am a little put off by the fact that canon Hawke is straight (?) but I guess that opens up greater RP possibilties.

Modifié par eucatastrophe, 30 août 2010 - 06:00 .

[Saibh]

eucatastrophe wrote...

I'm sorry, but I differ with you completely.

There was nothing Elvish about Zevran.
He was an Antivan through and through. Though we didn't get a Dwarf romance so I can see why the developers did not feature an Elf-elf if you know what I mean.

I personally am a little put off by the fact that canon Hawke is straight (?) but I guess that opens up greater RP possibilties.

What defines a City Elf? Being tormented by humans? That certainly happened to Zevran. Growing up knowing your culture has been crushed and tied by the humans you must now serve and work with? Ditto. Being short with pointy ears? Got it covered.

City Elves will say themselves--they are essentially humans, only discriminated against. I meant we had an elf as a race, not one with their particular outlook. I would not object to another elf, in any case.

We have no word that canonically, Hawke is straight. Canonically, Hawke isn't anything. Simply there not being a romance option in the game doesn't mean you don't find men attractive if you're a man.

[realyoungjeezy]

eucatastrophe wrote...

I'm sorry, but I differ with you completely.

There was nothing Elvish about Zevran.
He was an Antivan through and through. Though we didn't get a Dwarf romance so I can see why the developers did not feature an Elf-elf if you know what I mean.

I personally am a little put off by the fact that canon Hawke is straight (?) but I guess that opens up greater RP possibilties.

Advertising a gay hawke wouldn't help sales.

[Saibh]

realyoungjeezy wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

I'm sorry, but I differ with you completely.

There was nothing Elvish about Zevran.
He was an Antivan through and through. Though we didn't get a Dwarf romance so I can see why the developers did not feature an Elf-elf if you know what I mean.

I personally am a little put off by the fact that canon Hawke is straight (?) but I guess that opens up greater RP possibilties.

Advertising a gay hawke wouldn't help sales.

They won't advertise women, either. That doesn't change the fact that they're there, or people's preferences on the matter.

[eucatastrophe]

I was hesitant to write "Hawke is straight" because you're right, we don't know.



I should have said, "Hawke definitely was involved with a woman at some point and we can bet she becomes important."



Still, it's really a non-issue.



What we all want and hope in DA2 is variety I take it. DA:O was fairly nice in that regard (modders made it even better!) so I expect the same from DA2

[Lyssistr]

Maybe preselecting Hawke to be straight/bi/gay at the beginning of a campaign is the best solution for both audiences.

[realyoungjeezy]

Well just think of hawke bi, he was making kissy faces with ugly pirate girl.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

realyoungjeezy wrote...

Well just think of hawke bi, he was making kissy faces with ugly pirate girl.

I don't thnk that pirate is a girl as she looks quite manly, therefore making Hawke canonically gay.

[Saibh]

Lyssistr wrote...

Maybe preselecting Hawke to be straight/bi/gay at the beginning of a campaign is the best solution for both audiences.

But why would that stop Zevran from hitting on you? It's a part of his character; as such, I don't think my companion's personality should be altered by my personal choice. We might simply see a reflection of a different personality based upon changes, but not an alteration completely.

[realyoungjeezy]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

realyoungjeezy wrote...

Well just think of hawke bi, he was making kissy faces with ugly pirate girl.

I don't thnk that pirate is a girl as she looks quite manly, therefore making Hawke canonically gay.

rofl
yea those were defiantly man boobs

[Collider]

Selecting our character's sexuality beforehand is extremely tacky.

[Lyssistr]

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Maybe preselecting Hawke to be straight/bi/gay at the beginning of a campaign is the best solution for both audiences.

But why would that stop Zevran from hitting on you? It's a part of his character; as such, I don't think my companion's personality should be altered by my personal choice. We might simply see a reflection of a different personality based upon changes, but not an alteration completely.

Personally, as I said above I don't really care but I can sympathize those that mind a non-straight DA2, 10 yrs ago I'd say the same.

However, it is evident many people want a "straight" DA2 and a pre-selection would keep everyone happy. The bi option allows you to keep all options open and the other two obviously restrict them according to audience, all happy that way.

[Dave of Canada]

Didn't read most posts, just skimmed over the recent page. I don't see what's wrong with Zevran hitting on you if you're still playing a straight male character, is it completely odd that an attraction forms without your input? People get hit on in real life without giving off similar vibes.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 août 2010 - 06:25 .

[realyoungjeezy]

I mean, gays wouldn't have to worry about women flirting with them, vice versa.

[Arttis]

realyoungjeezy wrote...

I mean, gays wouldn't have to worry about women flirting with them, vice versa.

I agree this is the best solution....

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Maybe preselecting Hawke to be straight/bi/gay at the beginning of a campaign is the best solution for both audiences.

But why would that stop Zevran from hitting on you? It's a part of his character; as such, I don't think my companion's personality should be altered by my personal choice. We might simply see a reflection of a different personality based upon changes, but not an alteration completely.

Personally, as I said above I don't really care but I can sympathize those that mind a non-straight DA2, 10 yrs ago I'd say the same.

However, it is evident many people want a "straight" DA2 and a pre-selection would keep everyone happy. The bi option allows you to keep all options open and the other two obviously restrict them according to audience, all happy that way.

Who's most people? Not me obviously. I'm the guy who's a little annoyed at 'gay' love interest always turning out to be bi. Attraction isn't an on off switch. 

Dude, you keep paraphrasing me, "many people" is not "most people". One implies existence of a sample and the other is claiming a majority and fact is people in these forums have said so and in my post I never said they're a majority. Ad hominem, ad avatar or whatever doesn't work with me so if you want to argue, keep it legit.

[Dave of Canada]

Arttis wrote...

realyoungjeezy wrote...

I mean, gays wouldn't have to worry about women flirting with them, vice versa.

I agree this is the best solution....

But it's not even close to being realistic.

If I was gay, would it suddenly inform all women that I have no interest in them? Would this instantly make them never have a slight bit of attraction towards me, even if I save them and act kind? Having them develop feelings for you and you being responsible to deal with it is a lot more realistic than simply pressing an "off" button.

[Arttis]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arttis wrote...

realyoungjeezy wrote...

I mean, gays wouldn't have to worry about women flirting with them, vice versa.

I agree this is the best solution....

But it's not even close to being realistic.

If I was gay, would it suddenly inform all women that I have no interest in them? Would this instantly make them never have a slight bit of attraction towards me, even if I save them and act kind? Having them develop feelings for you and you being responsible to deal with it is a lot more realistic than simply pressing an "off" button.

It just mean in that particular game they happen to not notice you....butterfly effect...your not gonna place 2 games *exactly* the same way.

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Maybe preselecting Hawke to be straight/bi/gay at the beginning of a campaign is the best solution for both audiences.

But why would that stop Zevran from hitting on you? It's a part of his character; as such, I don't think my companion's personality should be altered by my personal choice. We might simply see a reflection of a different personality based upon changes, but not an alteration completely.

Personally, as I said above I don't really care but I can sympathize those that mind a non-straight DA2, 10 yrs ago I'd say the same.

However, it is evident many people want a "straight" DA2 and a pre-selection would keep everyone happy. The bi option allows you to keep all options open and the other two obviously restrict them according to audience, all happy that way.

Who's most people? Not me obviously. I'm the guy who's a little annoyed at 'gay' love interest always turning out to be bi. Attraction isn't an on off switch. 

Dude, you keep paraphrasing me, "many people" is not "most people". One implies existence of a sample and the other is claiming a majority and fact is people in these forums have said so and in my post I never said they're a majority. Ad hominem, ad avatar or whatever doesn't work with me so if you want to argue, keep it legit.

Woops. Sorry mate, been drinkking for the last hour. Not quiet as sharp as I should be.

no worries

[Dave of Canada]

Arttis wrote...

It just mean in that particular game they happen to not notice you....butterfly effect...your not gonna place 2 games *exactly* the same way.

I.. wait.. what?

[HarryThePlotter]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Didn't read most posts, just skimmed over the recent page. I don't see what's wrong with Zevran hitting on you if you're still playing a straight male character, is it completely odd that an attraction forms without your input? People get hit on in real life without giving off similar vibes.

Alistair: I've been thinking about those ink drawings, what did you call them? Tattoos? Are you... still willing to do one?

Zevran: Oh-ho! You've decided to take the plunge, have you? What is a little pain, am I right?

Alistair: I'm not worried about that. I think they look interesting, though I'd want mine... smaller. When can you do it?

Zevran: Not so fast, my friend. There is an entire
ritual to how this is done, do you not know? First I need to bathe you
in a mixture of olives and rosewater.

Alistair: You need to... bathe me? That seems... odd.

Zevran: No, no, no, not at all. It needs to be worked
into your skin, preparing it to receive the ink. The massage is quite
pleasurable, do not worry. You are in good hands.

Alistair: The... massage? You're... having me on, aren't you?

Zevran: I might be. I might not be. Shall I describe the rest of the ritual to you?

Alistair: Hmm. No. No, on second thought I'll just pass.

Zevran: *Laughs* Excellent choice!