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#1276
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No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


I never actually counted them.  But everyone has them.  Then of course, there are the catfights between Leliana and Morrigan.  

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Ryzaki wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


To my recollection (without counting)...

Alistair: Shale (1), Morrigan (2), Wynne (4), Leliana (1), Oghren (2). I think there are references to a romance in another one of Zevran's dialogues, although that might not actually be one that triggers.

I honestly can't remember all the Morrigan ones.

Modifié par Saibh, 01 novembre 2010 - 02:14 .


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Saibh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


To my recollection (without counting)...

Alistair: Shale (1), Morrigan (2), Wynne (3), Leliana (1), Oghren (2). I think there are references to a romance in another one of Zevran's dialogues, although that might not actually be one that triggers.

I honestly can't remember all the Morrigan ones.


Well, there is one in Zevran's when the romance with Alistair gets serious.  There's two more in restored banters -- one where Alistair asks how to woo, and another which has a different line if both Alistair and Zevran are romancing the warden instead of just Zevran.

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ejoslin wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


I never actually counted them.  But everyone has them.  Then of course, there are the catfights between Leliana and Morrigan.  


I love those.  Make me laugh every time.

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ejoslin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


To my recollection (without counting)...

Alistair: Shale (1), Morrigan (2), Wynne (3), Leliana (1), Oghren (2). I think there are references to a romance in another one of Zevran's dialogues, although that might not actually be one that triggers.

I honestly can't remember all the Morrigan ones.


Well, there is one in Zevran's when the romance with Alistair gets serious.  There's two more in restored banters -- one where Alistair asks how to woo, and another which has a different line if both Alistair and Zevran are romancing the warden instead of just Zevran.


Ah, yes, I forgot the wooing one. I left out the Zevran one that's in the game sense it's not relevant to the romance. And, yeah, the one I did remember was the both Alistair and Zevran one--however, that is triggered whether Alistair is interested or not. Some of the dialogue changes, however.

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ejoslin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

No.  There is no FemWarden/Leliana specific banters for anyone.  There is one more banter for a FemWarden/Zevran than there is for a MaleWarden/Zevran, but there are those two.  Nothing like the banters there are for Alistair and Morrigan romances.


Aw....I am dissappoint. :(

How many banters does the Alistair/Morrigan romances have anyways?


To my recollection (without counting)...

Alistair: Shale (1), Morrigan (2), Wynne (3), Leliana (1), Oghren (2). I think there are references to a romance in another one of Zevran's dialogues, although that might not actually be one that triggers.

I honestly can't remember all the Morrigan ones.


Well, there is one in Zevran's when the romance with Alistair gets serious.  There's two more in restored banters -- one where Alistair asks how to woo, and another which has a different line if both Alistair and Zevran are romancing the warden instead of just Zevran.


Jeez. Why does she and Alistair get so many more. :(The cruelty. :crying:

why does that banter sound like it could be hysterical? :innocent:

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Ah, yes, I forgot the wooing one. I left out the Zevran one that's in the game sense it's not relevant to the romance. And, yeah, the one I did remember was the both Alistair and Zevran one--however, that is triggered whether Alistair is interested or not. Some of the dialogue changes, however.


The sex advice?  That only triggers if the romance is serious!  It only triggers if Alistair and the Warden have made love.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 novembre 2010 - 02:22 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Ah, yes, I forgot the wooing one. I left out the Zevran one that's in the game sense it's not relevant to the romance. And, yeah, the one I did remember was the both Alistair and Zevran one--however, that is triggered whether Alistair is interested or not. Some of the dialogue changes, however.


The sex advice?  That only triggers if the romance is serious!  I changed it from "adore" to "made love" but still, that's very relevant to the romance!


No, not the wooing one, the other one. I can't remember much about what they talk about. I know he asks what Zevran's intentions towards the Warden are.

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Saibh wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Ah, yes, I forgot the wooing one. I left out the Zevran one that's in the game sense it's not relevant to the romance. And, yeah, the one I did remember was the both Alistair and Zevran one--however, that is triggered whether Alistair is interested or not. Some of the dialogue changes, however.


The sex advice?  That only triggers if the romance is serious!  I changed it from "adore" to "made love" but still, that's very relevant to the romance!


No, not the wooing one, the other one. I can't remember much about what they talk about. I know he asks what Zevran's intentions towards the Warden are.


Nono, those are banters I restored.  I'm talking about the one in the vanilla game that happens after Alistair and the warden make love.  Zevran offers some roots so Alistair can last longer.

And to correct my post that you quoted, I changed the trigger flag from "Made love" to "made love and romance active."

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Nono, those are banters I restored.  I'm talking about the one in the vanilla game that happens after Alistair and the warden make love.  Zevran offers some roots so Alistair can last longer.

And to correct my post that you quoted, I changed the trigger flag from "Made love" to "made love and romance active."


Oh, yeah. That one. When Zevran offers advice. Forgot about that one entirely. :lol:

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Hmmm, I'm thinking about it, there are several more banters for Zevran/FemWarden. I think there are three total for male/Zevran (I forgot about a Morrigan one).

I wonder why there are no banters for Leliana/FemWarden. It seems that's a popular romance, and predictably so.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 novembre 2010 - 03:38 .


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So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.



That count as a banter?

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So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


Nope, that counts as a bug!  Females are supposed to get that line.  There's a data entry error in the male line.

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So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


Nah. It's those convos that trigger without the Warden's input.

Though I lol'd at that convo. (Alas. One of the many many things that gave me hope that Ali was a s/s romance. :crying: My hopes...so cruely dashed.)

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ejoslin wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


Nope, that counts as a bug!  Females are supposed to get that line.  There's a data entry error in the male line.


Don't be silly. Obviously, Alistair can't hold his feelings for my male wardens after all these playtroughs. YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES, ALICORN, I LOVE YOU ANYWAY.

*ahem*

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Dhiro wrote...

So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


When most of us talk about banter, we're talking about the ambient dialogue between two (sometimes more) party members that triggers when running over certain locations. I remember that line--I believe it's supposed to be female only, but there's a bug. In the toolset there's another line that's supposed to trigger if your PC is male, but it never will.

Modifié par Saibh, 01 novembre 2010 - 03:48 .


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Edit: I'm too tired and this was not as funny as I thought it was!

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 novembre 2010 - 03:51 .


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only fair to edit back

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Ahm, I know what is a banter.



I tried to make a joke.



Dhiro fails >_>

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ejoslin wrote...

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So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


Nope, that counts as a bug!  Females are supposed to get that line.  There's a data entry error in the male line.


I think it's a freudian slip.  Alistair is pushing at his closet door. 

I actually saw somebody post that in their unmodded game, Alistair had "broken up" with their male PC after the landsmeet, much to their surprise.  Somehow a romance trigger had been flicked apparently.  There are some peculiar bugs in the game.

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maxernst wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

So, I was playing with my male mage today and Alistair said he's cute when he's angry.

That count as a banter?


Nope, that counts as a bug!  Females are supposed to get that line.  There's a data entry error in the male line.


I think it's a freudian slip.  Alistair is pushing at his closet door. 

I actually saw somebody post that in their unmodded game, Alistair had "broken up" with their male PC after the landsmeet, much to their surprise.  Somehow a romance trigger had been flicked apparently.  There are some peculiar bugs in the game.


He always refers to my male Wardens as "my love" when I select him when exploring. Morrigan does the same thing with my female Wardens.

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ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, I'm thinking about it, there are several more banters for Zevran/FemWarden. I think there are three total for male/Zevran (I forgot about a Morrigan one).

I wonder why there are no banters for Leliana/FemWarden. It seems that's a popular romance, and predictably so.


idk. maybe BW thought half the people doing fem warden/ Leliana were males.  I think more females romance Leliana then Zevran.

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chex mix wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, I'm thinking about it, there are several more banters for Zevran/FemWarden. I think there are three total for male/Zevran (I forgot about a Morrigan one).

I wonder why there are no banters for Leliana/FemWarden. It seems that's a popular romance, and predictably so.


idk. maybe BW thought half the people doing fem warden/ Leliana were males.  I think more females romance Leliana then Zevran.


I have no clues on the stats behind who romances whom (people who hate Zevran seem to think it's impossible that he has quite a large following).  But even if it's males playing females romancing Leliana, that still doesn't explain why there are no femwarden/Leliana banters.  

There are tons of Morrigan romance banters, quite a few Morrigan/Leliana catfight banters (male only), even a few male warden/Leliana banters.  Alistair has a lot as well.  Zevran fem/warden has quite a few.  Zevran/maleWarden has three (two are variants of one that is also for a famale, and one is gender neutral).

My own theory on this is they underestimated the female audience.  They put a lot of detail into the catfights, which of course would be very appealing to many (probably most) young men/teenage boys.  I mean, two beautiful, strong, deadly women, fighting over you?  What could be better?

However, they didn't forget the female audience, obviously,shown by the amount of Alistair-romance and Zevran-femWarden romance dialogs.  I wonder if they just ran out of resources.  

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ejoslin wrote...

chex mix wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, I'm thinking about it, there are several more banters for Zevran/FemWarden. I think there are three total for male/Zevran (I forgot about a Morrigan one).

I wonder why there are no banters for Leliana/FemWarden. It seems that's a popular romance, and predictably so.


idk. maybe BW thought half the people doing fem warden/ Leliana were males.  I think more females romance Leliana then Zevran.


I have no clues on the stats behind who romances whom (people who hate Zevran seem to think it's impossible that he has quite a large following).  But even if it's males playing females romancing Leliana, that still doesn't explain why there are no femwarden/Leliana banters.  

There are tons of Morrigan romance banters, quite a few Morrigan/Leliana catfight banters (male only), even a few male warden/Leliana banters.  Alistair has a lot as well.  Zevran fem/warden has quite a few.  Zevran/maleWarden has three (two are variants of one that is also for a famale, and one is gender neutral).

My own theory on this is they underestimated the female audience.  They put a lot of detail into the catfights, which of course would be very appealing to many (probably most) young men/teenage boys.  I mean, two beautiful, strong, deadly women, fighting over you?  What could be better?

However, they didn't forget the female audience, obviously,shown by the amount of Alistair-romance and Zevran-femWarden romance dialogs.  I wonder if they just ran out of resources.  


females do have that hair convo, which is a whole convo.  so maybe they thought to even things out.

Modifié par chex mix, 01 novembre 2010 - 06:48 .


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females do have that hair convo, which is a whole convo.  so maybe they thought to even things out.


...Of course, that and right after meeting Marjolaine is the only way to start the romance, so I doubt it. Whereas men can do it in several different conversations.