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[Russalka]

I hope the fighting stopped. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, bigotry is subjective.



Where was the discussion again? Don't know.

If there will be bisexual or homosexual romances, do you think they will have more than they did in DA:O? Or while they did say that Hawke is less defined than Shepard, could they go for that it is pre-written that Hawke will not dally in same-sex romances?

[zahra]

Russalka wrote...

I hope the fighting stopped. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, bigotry is subjective.

Where was the discussion again? Don't know.
If there will be bisexual or homosexual romances, do you think they will have more than they did in DA:O? Or while they did say that Hawke is less defined than Shepard, could they go for that it is pre-written that Hawke will not dally in same-sex romances?

Urm. I will have to respectfully disagree with you on bigotry being "subjective".

But more importantly, I think Gaider and other devs have stressed the fact that DA is not going to be Mass-Effectified, and I really don't think they will go the route of giving a pre-defined sexual preference to Hawke. In fact I believe Gaider himself has stated that this will not be done in response to a post similar to yours, but I could be wrong.

[Bobad]

I'm completely open to any male/male romances in DA2 and I hope we get a strong warrior, something akin to Barca in Spartacus, but I really don't mind as long as the charcter is well written and well rounded, also hope he doesn't use the daft 'put on for effect' campy voice.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

They shouldn't have to resort to mods to change how the game labels the sexual identity of their character to get Alistair to be interested in them, as I imagine that is on some level demeaning.

I always hated that arguement, just like in RL not interested means not interested - if the writer decides it's not in the character's nature then it won't be, and not even mods change that when it comes to cannon!
While on topic: sure, I wouldn't mind! (even if that would seem to contradict the above somewhat)

[Russalka]

zahra wrote...
Urm. I will have to respectfully disagree with you on bigotry being "subjective".

I don't know what I wanted with that comment anyway. A compromise? But I have seen extreme unnecessary activism from both ends, even the better one, at times. Ahh, nevermind. Maybe those yellers here are quiet now.

zahra wrote...

But more importantly, I think Gaider and other devs have stressed the fact that DA is not going to be Mass-Effectified, and I really don't think they will go the route of giving a pre-defined sexual preference to Hawke. In fact I believe Gaider himself has stated that this will not be done in response to a post similar to yours, but I could be wrong.

Yes, I would like to believe that is true aswell. Read the same things.
But they did intend making Ashley and Kaidan bisexual at first, but didn't, nevermind the obvious bisexual encounters with the Asari.
I guess I am far too jaded.

[zahra]

Russalka wrote...

zahra wrote...
Urm. I will have to respectfully disagree with you on bigotry being "subjective".

I don't know what I wanted with that comment anyway. A compromise? But I have seen extreme unnecessary activism from both ends, even the better one, at times. Ahh, nevermind. Maybe those yellers here are quiet now.

zahra wrote...

But more importantly, I think Gaider and other devs have stressed the fact that DA is not going to be Mass-Effectified, and I really don't think they will go the route of giving a pre-defined sexual preference to Hawke. In fact I believe Gaider himself has stated that this will not be done in response to a post similar to yours, but I could be wrong.

Yes, I would like to believe that is true aswell. Read the same things.
But they did intend making Ashley and Kaidan bisexual at first, but didn't, nevermind the obvious bisexual encounters with the Asari.
I guess I am far too jaded.

I think people just get passionate sometimes, especially when faced with comments that offend them on a deep personal level. But I agree with you, game forums are not really the best place to have drawn out arguments over these sort of things. I also think that its nice of you to try to find a compromise (even though I believe that the only compromise is to agree to disagree, since there really is no middle ground when it comes to things like this).

I think Team Dragon Age is very different from Team Mass Effect (the writing quality of the former is vastly superior for example) and I also believe that they have differing attitudes when it comes to their approach to gaming. At least thats what I like to believe. Consider the fact that ME1 came way before DA:O and they still had a gay romance in DA:O despite the fact that they probably expected some sort of backlash.

[Ninja Mage]

Still would love to see sexy Qunari stud hit on me in game

[Russalka]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Still would love to see sexy Qunari stud hit on me in game

You mean with a big large spiky maul?
Because that's all I can see real Qunari doing.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
(nothingpersonal)

[Ninja Mage]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I'm a straight male who never roleplays any of the gay romances. They make me slightly uncomfortable, not because of the concept of homosexuality itself - which I'm perfectly fine with in day to day life and non-interactive media, but because I am consciously and unconsciously acting vicariously through the protagonist. Since I also don't usually like hurting people's feelings - whether they be real people or fictional characters in a game - I then have the displeasure of disappointing them by bluntly that they're barking up the wrong tree, because no one likes a tease either.

So with that being said, I absolutely totally 100% support there being gay romance options available. Why?

That they can experience romance storylines that they can relate to and are comfortable with. I don't want them to have to have the same reaction to Zevran trying to get into my pants that I did. They shouldn't have to resort to mods to change how the game labels the sexual identity of their character to get Alistair to be interested in them, as I imagine that is on some level demeaning.

Thankyou for your insight.  I created threads like these because I like to roleplay someone like myself. It has nothing to do with taking away female romance options for people who want it. I would just like both to co-exist within the same game

[Ninja Mage]

Russalka wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Still would love to see sexy Qunari stud hit on me in game

You mean with a big large spiky maul?
Because that's all I can see real Qunari doing.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
(nothingpersonal)

It will be big and large..and he will ''hit'' my Hawke..but that's all I can say lol

[Ninja Mage]

And Zevran was a sweetheart underneath all that jokster/Spanish hunkiness. Much better than Alistair in my opinion

[eucatastrophe]

Ninja Mage wrote...

And Zevran was a sweetheart underneath all that jokster/Spanish hunkiness. Much better than Alistair in my opinion

I loved Zev but I just HAVE to disagree with you on the last statement 

[Ninja Mage]

Alistair was nice but I felt he was a coward..but thats getting oftopic

[Riona45]

eucatastrophe wrote...

I should have said, "Hawke definitely was involved with a woman at some point and we can bet she becomes important."

Are you talking about the Hawke in the trailer?

That isn't canon.

[eucatastrophe]

Riona45 wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

I should have said, "Hawke definitely was involved with a woman at some point and we can bet she becomes important."

Are you talking about the Hawke in the trailer?

That isn't canon.

Is it fair to say that?
The woman will probably feature in his (back)story so it is definitely something that can't be dismissed.

Of course, it is something that opens many RP possibilities so I'm not terribly upset by it.

[realyoungjeezy]

this guy should be a gay romancable companion

[Thicos]

Love is for everybody.



For me, a human male is great.



A big qunari is sexy too.

[Riona45]

eucatastrophe wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

I should have said, "Hawke definitely was involved with a woman at some point and we can bet she becomes important."

Are you talking about the Hawke in the trailer?

That isn't canon.

Is it fair to say that?
The woman will probably feature in his (back)story so it is definitely something that can't be dismissed.

Of course, it is something that opens many RP possibilities so I'm not terribly upset by it.

I would never take the trailers or marketing to be canon, especially since the devs have said there is no canon story.  I'm sure the woman in the trailer will play an important role in the story, but that doesn't mean it must be a romantic one.*

Morrigan played an important role in my Warden's life...yet my Warden was female and their relationship became sisterly.  And that's a character who was actually stated to be the "face" of DA:O (unlike the "pirate lady").


*When one refers to being "involved with a woman," I interpret that as romantic involvement--just to clarify.

Modifié par Riona45, 31 août 2010 - 01:52 .

[DaySeeker]

I really liked in DAO that not every character was romancible. It would be great if there were characters that were only into members of the same sex, or all romancible characters should be bisexual. There is no reason why any character couldn't be evreything a writer decided they would be AND gay. There are no qualities that are ONLY gay or ONLY straight besides whom one prefers to have sex with, and unless it is essential to the plot that that character will only have sex with one gender I don't understand why in my game reality characters couldn't be one or the other.

[BP20125810]

GOD dissaporives, -13



I apporove anyway plus 8

[Dave of Canada]

Madame Lanka wrote...

Please no wimp Elf. I want my gay couple to have a good fashion sense but be bad asses at the same time..

Make an exception to the rule and give an elf a beard.

Done.