I think it was one of the rumors you prompt people on that stated that the Cailen and Anora remaining childless was Anora's fault, this being a medieval setting, this is probably is the natural way of things. (blame the woman) But she could be Barren just as Cailen could have been firing blanks.
The thing is during my last playthrough, i married her off to Alistair, although it doesn't seem a happy union, they will be expected to produce an heir. If not that important bloodline, Eamon went on about ends a generation later.
Anyway, has anyone heard or found anything relating to this in Media i haven't seen yet?
Anora's Barren?
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Spitfire80
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 08:05
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It's just a rumour. If you speak to one of the barkeeps and ask for rumours, one is that Anora is barren as the Maker's curse for putting a commoner on the throne (as married to Cailan). This itself is obviously nonsense.
There's also the letter from Eamon to Cailan that you find in his warchest in the RtO DLC, where Eamon suggests Cailan drop Anora as she's not yet provided him with an heir (again, this isn't conclusive).
Going by the conversation a Cousland married to Anora can have with Loghain in Awakening, it seems more the case that Anora doesn't really want children. (see it here).
There's also the letter from Eamon to Cailan that you find in his warchest in the RtO DLC, where Eamon suggests Cailan drop Anora as she's not yet provided him with an heir (again, this isn't conclusive).
Going by the conversation a Cousland married to Anora can have with Loghain in Awakening, it seems more the case that Anora doesn't really want children. (see it here).
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 08:36
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Uh, interesting. I wonder if it's more the fact that she was forced to accept the marriage. It is, after all, something of a queenly duty to provide an heir.CalJones wrote...
Going by the conversation a Cousland married to Anora can have with Loghain in Awakening, it seems more the case that Anora doesn't really want children. (see it here).
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 08:56
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I don't see why so many people think that Anora can't have children. Considering that Anora and the Cousland Warden are just recently married during Awakening (at the end of DA:O it was said the wedding ceremony would be in six months), and I doubt that Anora wants to discuss procreation with her own father, there's nothing to suggest that the Warden and Anora couldn't have children. We really don't know Anora well enough to gauge how she feels towards the Cousland Warden any more than how she feels about a Warden from any Origin because she has no little screen time compared to Alistair or even Loghain. It could simply be that the suggestion made by Arl Eamon in RtO that Anora is barren is bull. Her husband King Cailan slept around, and considering that he had no children, it could be that the problem was with him.
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 09:00
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Guess he doesn't take after dear sweet dad then? Heh, I never recall reading that.LobselVith8 wrote...
I don't see why so many people think that Anora can't have children. Considering that Anora and the Cousland Warden are just recently married during Awakening (at the end of DA:O it was said the wedding ceremony would be in six months), and I doubt that Anora wants to discuss procreation with her own father, there's nothing to suggest that the Warden and Anora couldn't have children. We really don't know Anora well enough to gauge how she feels towards the Cousland Warden any more than how she feels about a Warden from any Origin because she has no little screen time compared to Alistair or even Loghain. It could simply be that the suggestion made by Arl Eamon in RtO that Anora is barren is bull. Her husband King Cailan slept around, and considering that he had no children, it could be that the problem was with him.
Nevertheless, I rather like Maric. I mean, not liking him is a bit like not liking Cailan, it's kicking a big, broad-shouldered, golden-armoured puppy
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 09:09
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It's in a conversation with Anora, if you're a female in a romance with Alistair and you arrange for them to marry. She enquires about where that leaves you and says something along the lines of "Cailan had his women..."
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 09:38
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Well, despite the women she seemed to at least care for Cailan and he for her, judging by his row with Eamon over putting her aside. It wasn't a bad match at all, if not for the nasty father-in-law.
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 09:54
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BlueMew wrote...
Well, despite the women she seemed to at least care for Cailan and he for her, judging by his row with Eamon over putting her aside. It wasn't a bad match at all, if not for the nasty father-in-law.
You mean Maric that messed up Cailan?
I jest, but of course it is possible that Anora is barren, but Cailan may have slow sperm too. But seeing the royal one of them as the one being sterile is just being optimistic. And the horrified look in her eye could be seen as her being horrified by her father asks her about her sex-life.
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 10:46
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Oh no, I meant Loghain of course... if not for him it would have been a fine match. Anora has her kingdom, Cailan has his women and they both have each other.Herr Uhl wrote...
BlueMew wrote...
Well, despite the women she seemed to at least care for Cailan and he for her, judging by his row with Eamon over putting her aside. It wasn't a bad match at all, if not for the nasty father-in-law.
You mean Maric that messed up Cailan?
I jest, but of course it is possible that Anora is barren, but Cailan may have slow sperm too. But seeing the royal one of them as the one being sterile is just being optimistic. And the horrified look in her eye could be seen as her being horrified by her father asks her about her sex-life.
My bet would indeed be Cailan, if he's had flings with other women and miraculously none of them had any children. Not that it matters to me, anyhow, I'm not a firm believer in bloodlines or noblewomen as breeding mares
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 10:56
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To be honest who cares which can't have kids? The only good thing heirs are for is establishing a clear line of sucession and avoiding the mess we're greeted with in Origins. It's a terrible way to determine a ruler and really has no redeeming qualities other than avoiding civil war. Maybe it's the American in me but watching all those people squabble over bloodlines and the status quo makes me want to abandon them to the darkspawn.
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Posté 30 août 2010 - 11:27
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MariSkep wrote...
To be honest who cares which can't have kids? The only good thing heirs are for is establishing a clear line of sucession and avoiding the mess we're greeted with in Origins. It's a terrible way to determine a ruler and really has no redeeming qualities other than avoiding civil war. Maybe it's the American in me but watching all those people squabble over bloodlines and the status quo makes me want to abandon them to the darkspawn.
That is hereditary monarchy in a feudal system to you. The dwarfs used the "select the best candidate among nobles" option, which also existed, but with their caste system that mostly results in choosing the one who keeps the staus quo (people who complain about Bhelen going dictator seem to miss dwarf democracy has really very little of that).
Cailan and Anora having had a child would indeed make things harder in Origins for the Warden. Gives Anora full rights as regent, and Loghain controls her. On the other side, Cailen going to the orlesian empress... it´s quite clear who would rule Ferelden in such a situation.
Eamon is not that nice either. He sent Alistair somewhere where he wouldn´t have children, and then uses him as heir. Politically wise, but rather cruel, especially as Alistair ended not caring about the crown. Maric would probably say a few words to him.
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Posté 31 août 2010 - 09:42
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I dont think she is. I doubt Cailan gave her much attention or even slept with her much from either from Cailan being away, or Anora not wanting to since "the women" thing. She loved him I think, but I don't think she loved him as a King, so she really wasn't to excited of producing an heir for a man that has zero capabilities of ruling.
As for the Warden if you are kind to her from the get go and save her father. She is quite sweet and cute to the Warden. I think Loghain saying the heir thing was a parent being a little nosey. He obviously thinks you the Warden are more than capable as a man and hero, and he obviously loves his daughter, so I imagine he would like to see a grandchild or grandchildren before he goes to his Calling since joining the Wardens put his life expectency on turbo mode.
Just my two cents.
As for the Warden if you are kind to her from the get go and save her father. She is quite sweet and cute to the Warden. I think Loghain saying the heir thing was a parent being a little nosey. He obviously thinks you the Warden are more than capable as a man and hero, and he obviously loves his daughter, so I imagine he would like to see a grandchild or grandchildren before he goes to his Calling since joining the Wardens put his life expectency on turbo mode.
Just my two cents.
