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Would you be ok with guy oriented eye-candy if there were more for women?


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@Saibh: I don't have a problem with fanservice character models, and I'm a girl. Hell, if I did have a problem with fanservice models, I'd have found games like WoW virtually unplayable. (Though it still has plenty of unrelated reasons why I literally cannot play it unless I'm in the same room as my friends and b****ing to them about it. That's surprisingly fun ><) Bayonetta, Lara Croft, Zero Suit Samus...I could go on and on about female characters with

a) Horrifically over the top fanservice

B) Enough funsies that I didn't really care.



Also, Samus is just plain win. She could look like an anorexic Barbie, and she would still kick the ass of most other video game characters. Why oh why didn't Jen Hale voice her in Other M?

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

@Saibh: I don't have a problem with fanservice character models, and I'm a girl. Hell, if I did have a problem with fanservice models, I'd have found games like WoW virtually unplayable. (Though it still has plenty of unrelated reasons why I literally cannot play it unless I'm in the same room as my friends and b****ing to them about it. That's surprisingly fun >
a) Horrifically over the top fanservice
B) Enough funsies that I didn't really care.

Also, Samus is just plain win. She could look like an anorexic Barbie, and she would still kick the ass of most other video game characters. Why oh why didn't Jen Hale voice her in Other M?


Well, you are alone.

Utterly, utterly alone.

Enjoy sitting at the guys' table. No tampons for you!

:D Joking aside, I consider Morrigan's character design to be both full of fanservice as well as correct for her personality and the story surrounding her. Fanservice can be done right without getting too many people riled up.

Modifié par Saibh, 31 août 2010 - 01:47 .


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I don't think anyone's arguing that they want to play ugly or obese characters...obese wouldn't make much sense.


I like playing ugly characters and characters with less than ideal bodies. Definitely not obese but the pudgy tower mage,  the scarred Dwarven thug, or the simple looking cty elf were my favorites to play. The looks were more flavoring but at least with the city elf it added a personal element to the relationship she had with Alistair.

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Lyssistr wrote...

Big boobs cannot be offending unless they've tattooed words on them :P. Of course everyone is capable of finding women with average/attractive breasts, everyone is able to drive a car, should Porsches be out of GTA? :D 


You're missing my point. Women will have to play as women avatars, and they do not want to be stuck with ones they don't like, that have an unrealistic and ridiculous body model. Also, you choose whether to drive a Porsche. If you really hate it, you need not drive it. Girls are stuck with the model given to them.

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I'm a guy and I hate guy-pandering. Not because I'm a feminist but because it just totally reminds me I'm playing a game when I'm told to take some scantily-clad female "warrior" wearing a square inch of armour around her DDs seriously. It's why I just can't watch anime; I've heard some of it is actually good but every time I make an attempt I get knocked out by a pair of ****** and held down by blatant fetishism.



Origins was quite good at holding back on the irresistable urge to make every bit of female armour as unprotective as possible, but the busoms were still quite large, especially on characters like Wynne.

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Beautiful women are good. Beautiful men are good too.

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Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Big boobs cannot be offending unless they've tattooed words on them :P. Of course everyone is capable of finding women with average/attractive breasts, everyone is able to drive a car, should Porsches be out of GTA? :D 


You're missing my point. Women will have to play as women avatars, and they do not want to be stuck with ones they don't like, that have an unrealistic and ridiculous body model. Also, you choose whether to drive a Porsche. If you really hate it, you need not drive it. Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


I'm ok with that, if all men get a belly :P

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Saibh wrote...

 Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


We all are. And Bethany is far from be exploitative. I just don't understand the backlash here. What did large boobs ever do to you?

Modifié par slimgrin, 31 août 2010 - 01:58 .


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lol. this communities ashum.

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yummysoap wrote...
I'm a guy and I hate guy-pandering. Not because I'm a feminist but because it just totally reminds me I'm playing a game when I'm told to take some scantily-clad female "warrior" wearing a square inch of armour around her DDs seriously. It's why I just can't watch anime; I've heard some of it is actually good but every time I make an attempt I get knocked out by a pair of ****** and held down by blatant fetishism.


I feel ya. I don't mind eye candy. I happen to enjoy it sometimes but it just gets taken to this ridiculous level where I find myself wishing evil things on the developer who had so little respect for my intelligence he felt I needed some bimbo in a corset to hold my interest.

To that developer, dude seriously, I'm a grown man. I'm not jacking off 20 times a day anymore and I've developed a somewhat healthy attitude towards women (no thanks to you) and I'd appreciate it if my companions were more than whatever masturbatory fantasy your art staff came up with.

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Large breasts make many females feel inadequate.

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Lyssistr wrote...

I'm ok with that, if all men get a belly :P


Again.

Do you find smaller breasts unattractive?

No?

Okay.

Well.

Most women don't want their love interests to be portly. They need not grate cheese on their abs, but they should be fit. Most men want their avatars to appear masculine and powerful.

Your answer is that if you aren't allowed the absolute ridiculous ideal of what you find attractive in a woman's body, regardless of gameplay logic, then women only deserve unattractive men who also defy gameplay logic.

Modifié par Saibh, 31 août 2010 - 02:00 .


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slimgrin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

 Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


We all are. And Bethany is far from be exploitative. I just don't understand the backlash here. What did large boobs ever do to you?


Nothing. In fact I hope to take advantage of the situation by making her carry the bulk of our gear. Let's see how GSB's lovely back fairs on our long trek through Fereldan. :devil:

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Arttis wrote...

Large breasts make many females feel inadequate.


wifey would like a word with you. According to her she can't even go for a decent run because how in the way they get.

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slimgrin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

 Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


We all are. And Bethany is far from be exploitative. I just don't understand the backlash here. What did large boobs ever do to you?


Bethany's breasts are literally bigger then Pamela Anderson's. Her waist is also tinier.

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yummysoap wrote...

I'm a guy and I hate guy-pandering. Not because I'm a feminist but because it just totally reminds me I'm playing a game when I'm told to take some scantily-clad female "warrior" wearing a square inch of armour around her DDs seriously. It's why I just can't watch anime; I've heard some of it is actually good but every time I make an attempt I get knocked out by a pair of ****** and held down by blatant fetishism..

I've developed a rule for all to follow: "The quality of an anime is inversely proportional to the average bust size of its female characters plus the total number of episodes written."

It hasn't failed me yet.

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I've developed a rule for all to follow: "The quality of an anime is inversely proportional to the average bust size of its female characters plus the total number of episodes written."

It hasn't failed me yet.


Have you checked out Black Lagoon? Revy's clothing is pretty revealing even if her face isn't exactly charming.

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Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

I'm ok with that, if all men get a belly :P


Again.

Do you find smaller breasts unattractive?

No?

Okay.

Well.

Most women don't want their love interests to be portly. They need not grate cheese on their abs, but they should be fit. Most men want their avatars to appear masculine and powerful.

Your answer is that if you aren't allowed the absolute ridiculous ideal of what you find attractive in a woman's body, regardless of gameplay logic, then women only deserve unattractive men who also defy gameplay logic.


You're still not giving me a compelling argument to give up on boobs!

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Russalka wrote...

This thread is horrible.


Thank you. I waiting for that much earlier when I created it. I love this debate by the way. I am enjoying every response. Thank you all.

Modifié par Zevais, 31 août 2010 - 02:04 .


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Saibh wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

 Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


We all are. And Bethany is far from be exploitative. I just don't understand the backlash here. What did large boobs ever do to you?


Bethany's breasts are literally bigger then Pamela Anderson's. Her waist is also tinier.


Bethany's are natural, you can't fault her for that. Pamela Anderson is a sycophantic piece of plastic. Don't compare Bethany to a piece of plastic. :(

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MariSkep wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Large breasts make many females feel inadequate.


wifey would like a word with you. According to her she can't even go for a decent run because how in the way they get.

In a game she can ahve them the size of skyscrapers and have a decent run.

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Saibh wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Saibh wrote...

 Girls are stuck with the model given to them.


We all are. And Bethany is far from be exploitative. I just don't understand the backlash here. What did large boobs ever do to you?


Bethany's breasts are literally bigger then Pamela Anderson's. Her waist is also tinier.


Its Boobswatch :D

Tbh they're about the same tho. 

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Lyssistr wrote...

You're still not giving me a compelling argument to give up on boobs!


But that's the beauty of my argument--you're not giving up anything. It's a compromise for something you like and something we like. It might not be on the far end spectrum of what you'd prefer, but it's still something you like.

Hence, compromise. :D

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Arttis wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Large breasts make many females feel inadequate.


wifey would like a word with you. According to her she can't even go for a decent run because how in the way they get.

In a game she can ahve them the size of skyscrapers and have a decent run.


And they don't flop around! :innocent: