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[Arttis]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

DMC12 wrote...
Modern Western culture demands supermodel figures with large breasts...

Most models are actually rather flat.

and terribly unattractive if you ask me

if they are so unattractive, why are they out there getting attention and money

while you are here, married, fat, and playing video games

Well, of course, because being married and play videogames equal to failure at life

In a way it sort of does...

[Lyssistr]

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

Bethany is modestly dressed even if she does have a big chest. Nothing is over the top about her design. I just don't get all the hullabaloo.

Unless they patch the toolset 

[Lord_Valandil]

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

This.

[Saibh]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Well, if you ask me, I don't know any gamer girl. Just my gf. I guess I found a mine o' gold, because she loves all kind of genres, from shooters to survival horror, RPG, racing, and many more.
But all the other girls I know don't care about games. In fact, some of them have Wii or one of the other consoles and don't even touch them, they prefer to go out, go shopping, having tea or coffee with her friends, and NO, i'm not making fun of them. That's what they do.
Reality is that most gamers are male. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't know a lot of gamer girls, and it's not like "I haven't been looking for them".

And, as a girl, I have met plenty. I also will tell you the first thing I tell a guy is not that I'm a gamer. Too many of them immediately assume there's something socially wrong with gamer girls, and will otherwise assume I'm the same type of girl that really, really loves Justin Bieber if I say nothing. If a guy expresses interest in gaming, I will slowly start to hint at my knowledge, but otherwise keep my mouth shut about it until I know he'd be cool with it (or the kind of guy that loves their girlfriends playing games with them) or I've been dating him for awhile.

On XBox Live, I don't immediately make people aware that I am female. If it comes up, I don't deny it, but until then I try to avoid the subject. When I just want to get through a campaign without being harassed, I'll even pretend to be a guy. I know a lot of girls who do.

[Lord_Valandil]

Arttis wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

DMC12 wrote...
Modern Western culture demands supermodel figures with large breasts...

Most models are actually rather flat.

and terribly unattractive if you ask me

if they are so unattractive, why are they out there getting attention and money

while you are here, married, fat, and playing video games

Well, of course, because being married and play videogames equal to failure at life

In a way it sort of does...

Then why are you in a videogame forum, may I ask?
Of course, you have the right to be here if you want, but I don't get it.
And being married, why?
Sometimes it's so hard to understand people.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 31 août 2010 - 04:06 .

[tmp7704]

Saibh wrote...

But video games, comic books? There are no "actors" in those.

Comic books originated with focus on superhuman characters which are well beyond what a regular human is capable of, so the exaggeration of human form in them is quite natural consequence of that. Video games being pretty new genre generally just parrot what's shown in movies and the comic books created around the time these games are made, i.e. very recent productions.

[Lyssistr]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

This.

I don't 100% agree on that, it has to be consistent with some notions of fantasy settings, that go back to medieval England, perhaps oxfordshire etc.

But even there female mages are fine with large boobs, they're not melee.

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...
Oh jesus christ,

Anyone who provides a supporting role in a combat situatiot has to be physically fit. There's no way around that. Anyone who spends 50% of their day traveling on foot across difficult terrain for weeks maybe even months at a time while carrying what has to be more than 20 lbs of gear and has earth shattering breasts is going to have a hell of a time with it. 

When did the focus shift from combat to a marathon in DA2?

[Arttis]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

DMC12 wrote...
Modern Western culture demands supermodel figures with large breasts...

Most models are actually rather flat.

and terribly unattractive if you ask me

if they are so unattractive, why are they out there getting attention and money

while you are here, married, fat, and playing video games

Well, of course, because being married and play videogames equal to failure at life

In a way it sort of does...

Then why are you in a videogame forum, may I ask?
Of course, you have the right to be here if you want, but I don't get it.
And being married, why?
Sometimes it's so hard to understand people.

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

[Saibh]

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

Bethany is modestly dressed even if she does have a big chest. Nothing is over the top about her design. I just don't get all the hullabaloo.

Magic isn't real. They can make up what they like about it. I know it's not real, and don't have a particular basis in reality for it. Dragons have a standard that I expect to be kept (fire breathing, lizard-like, they fly), but otherwise, they are free to make up what they want.

Women are (would you believe it) naturally occuring specimens. I can compare them against real life. I am a girl, in fact. I can make judgments on what is closer to reality or not.

Good fantasy is grounded in reality. When it isn't, you're specifically enjoying that fantasy because it's so completely campy and unrealistic. DA is not that kind of fantasy.

[Saibh]

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?

[Lord_Valandil]

Arttis wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

DMC12 wrote...
Modern Western culture demands supermodel figures with large breasts...

Most models are actually rather flat.

and terribly unattractive if you ask me

if they are so unattractive, why are they out there getting attention and money

while you are here, married, fat, and playing video games

Well, of course, because being married and play videogames equal to failure at life

In a way it sort of does...

Then why are you in a videogame forum, may I ask?
Of course, you have the right to be here if you want, but I don't get it.
And being married, why?
Sometimes it's so hard to understand people.

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

Ok, getting creepy now
And what about movies, books and TV? Failure, too?

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 31 août 2010 - 04:11 .

[Lyssistr]

Saibh wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

Bethany is modestly dressed even if she does have a big chest. Nothing is over the top about her design. I just don't get all the hullabaloo.

Magic isn't real. They can make up what they like about it. I know it's not real, and don't have a particular basis in reality for it. Dragons have a standard that I expect to be kept (fire breathing, lizard-like, they fly), but otherwise, they are free to make up what they want.

Women are (would you believe it) naturally occuring specimens. I can compare them against real life. I am a girl, in fact. I can make judgments on what is closer to reality or not.

Good fantasy is grounded in reality. When it isn't, you're specifically enjoying that fantasy because it's so completely campy and unrealistic. DA is not that kind of fantasy.

Why is it unrealistic (as realistic as a fantasy setting is) for a young female mage to have boobs, if old men can do, why can't she?

[Arttis]

Saibh wrote...

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?

Correct.
Most fail at life.
That is why we shall suffer often.:happy:

[Lord_Valandil]

Arttis wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?

Correct.
Most fail at life.
That is why we shall suffer often.:happy:

Wow. Just...
I don't know what to say.
Is it entertaining to live in a cave?

[Maverick827]

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

Bethany is modestly dressed even if she does have a big chest. Nothing is over the top about her design. I just don't get all the hullabaloo.

Magic isn't real. They can make up what they like about it. I know it's not real, and don't have a particular basis in reality for it. Dragons have a standard that I expect to be kept (fire breathing, lizard-like, they fly), but otherwise, they are free to make up what they want.

Women are (would you believe it) naturally occuring specimens. I can compare them against real life. I am a girl, in fact. I can make judgments on what is closer to reality or not.

Good fantasy is grounded in reality. When it isn't, you're specifically enjoying that fantasy because it's so completely campy and unrealistic. DA is not that kind of fantasy.

Why is it unrealistic (as realistic as a fantasy setting is) for a young female mage to have boobs, if old men can do, why can't she?

Not everyone is on board with old wizards being physically fit.  Quite frankly, that's a ridiculous notion likely invented for Tolkein's patented walking scenes.  The man didn't ****** great ideas.

Modifié par Maverick827, 31 août 2010 - 04:15 .

[Saibh]

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Virtually nothing is real or possible in Dragon Age anyway, so let's not rely on realism.

Bethany is modestly dressed even if she does have a big chest. Nothing is over the top about her design. I just don't get all the hullabaloo.

Magic isn't real. They can make up what they like about it. I know it's not real, and don't have a particular basis in reality for it. Dragons have a standard that I expect to be kept (fire breathing, lizard-like, they fly), but otherwise, they are free to make up what they want.

Women are (would you believe it) naturally occuring specimens. I can compare them against real life. I am a girl, in fact. I can make judgments on what is closer to reality or not.

Good fantasy is grounded in reality. When it isn't, you're specifically enjoying that fantasy because it's so completely campy and unrealistic. DA is not that kind of fantasy.

Why is it unrealistic (as realistic as a fantasy setting is) for a young female mage to have boobs, if old men can do, why can't she?

Er...I'm not sure what "if old men can do" means? 

In any case, it's not unrealistic to have breasts. If Bethany's character model is limited to small portion of the female population, great. But I'm operating under the assumption that it is universal. In that case, it is extremely unrealistic.

[Arttis]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.

You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?

Correct.
Most fail at life.
That is why we shall suffer often.:happy:

Wow. Just...
I don't know what to say.
Is it entertaining to live in a cave?

Simply being in a cave is not reality.
You must go out explore and take in as much knowledge as possible.
If you die along the way....it is failure.

[tmp7704]

Lyssistr wrote...

Why is it unrealistic (as realistic as a fantasy setting is) for a young female mage to have boobs, if old men can do, why can't she?

Have them is one thing. To show them off as totally vulnerable target to anyone with bow, sword and two brain cells because she's too lazy to tie that chainmail 50 cm higher is quite another.

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

MariSkep wrote...
Oh jesus christ,

Anyone who provides a supporting role in a combat situatiot has to be physically fit. There's no way around that. Anyone who spends 50% of their day traveling on foot across difficult terrain for weeks maybe even months at a time while carrying what has to be more than 20 lbs of gear and has earth shattering breasts is going to have a hell of a time with it. 

When did the focus shift from combat to a marathon in DA2?

Have you played rpgs? The lead spends a lot of time walking and the terrain doesn't make negotiating it easy.

I have, have you? this going to be a free roaming rpg, walking too much was never a central part of their games, nor was this an issue ever in Bioware rpgs, under any character, they could just keep walking for ever and ever. And now they cant because... Bethany has boobs?

Walking was never the focus in Bio's rpgs, since female mages with boobs are fine in combat, there is absolutely no reason for Bethany to go to the surgeon.