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[Lyssistr]

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...


Gigantic breasts cause back problems, movement problems, would get in the way of wielding a sword or a bow

She's a mage so no actual sword use needed, back problems will occur in 30 years, so who cares and movement is not an issue really, if old men can move, so can a young woman, even with large boobs.

Old men can stay fit, and keep their muscles from getting atrophied. Women with extremely large breasts get problems concerning the things already mentioned, even if they're not being very active.

Again, if it's just Bethany, or a few people, with her character model, that's fine. But if it's everyone, they will be using swords and wearing heavy armor.

Why Beth is not fit? Boobs atrophied her muscles? c'mon.

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Gigantic breasts cause back problems, movement problems, would get in the way of wielding a sword or a bow

She's a mage so no actual sword use needed, back problems will occur in 30 years, so who cares and movement is not an issue really, if old men can move, so can a young woman, even with large boobs.

No they won't occur in 30 years. She'll feel it all the way on that god only knows how many miles long trek from Lothering to the Free Marshes. And yes movement is a major issue because even if you are an incredibly powerful mage, all that power amounts to nill if you can't get away from an enemy attack. 

Yeah and with boobs she can't walk...

[Mecha Tengu]

Maverick827 wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote..

Bethany has just the right proportions 

Fact is in fantasy, so far, old people have been ok mages, besides their lower physique and a young girl wont be coz of her boobs?

. Fact is, women will actually play this game and want to see reasonable character models for their girls.

why can't women just chill. We don't care if male models are horrible fat, muscular, thin, tall, short, ugly. Its fantasy, why should it offend someone? 

Not as if fat guys get offended when a character is fat, or guys get offended when a male character doesn't wear anything but leaves. Its a character, enjoy, play the game. Don't ruin it for others

Why is your gaming experience more important than ours?  Why can your preferences "ruin" our game, but ours shouldn't "ruin" yours?

these aren't any specific preferences

when comparing males to females, half naked men are everywhere, but no one bothers to care about his clothing

Female protagonists? game company will receiver complaints on how it is offensive

[Maverick827]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

im not being selfish, and neither is any other guy out there. A game features a male protagonist that is a barbarian and wears only linen pants. "hey cool, I like this character, I like how he thinks, how he fights"
Physical apperance is irrelevant to us

<- Man who hates games like Gears of War because of the s***** meathead protagonists.

[Saibh]

Mecha Tengu wrote...
???

im not being selfish, and neither is any other guy out there. A game features a male protagonist that is a barbarian and wears only linen pants. "hey cool, I like this character, I like how he thinks, how he fights"
Physical apperance is irrelevant to us

a game features a female protagonist that wears a metal bikini and a cape and helmet "Wow so revealing, I am offended, fcking fan service"
????? why so mad? you have half naked men, we can't have half naked women

We don't want half-naked men. Men who say that are only trying to desperately justify their wanting of half-naked women.

And, again, strong, masculine men appeal to men too, as their avatars and heroes. Not all of them. But many, which is why it's there to begin with. If equal fanservice was the norm, then I wouldn't even be arguing with you, since women would have reasonable chests because we, again, don't care for half-naked men nearly as much as you care for half-naked women.

This isn't us being selfish, this is you wanting to have your cake and eat it too and pretending we got a slice, when all we got off were your leftovers.

Modifié par Saibh, 31 août 2010 - 04:46 .

[Dave of Canada]

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...


Gigantic breasts cause back problems, movement problems, would get in the way of wielding a sword or a bow

She's a mage so no actual sword use needed, back problems will occur in 30 years, so who cares and movement is not an issue really, if old men can move, so can a young woman, even with large boobs.

My cousin had to get breast reduction surgery at 19 due to her breasts causing major back problems and causing her to suffocate if she slept on her back, her breast size wasn't even close to Bethany's cup size. Let's also not forget how if she actually is a companion throughout the game, she'll be helping you the entire time and walking thousands of miles with you while using her staff to defend herself.

This isn't even counting that so far that it seems to be the default female model.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 31 août 2010 - 04:44 .

[Lyssistr]

MariSkep wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

MariSkep wrote...

wouldn't you also agree that inbetween all those cutscenes, your Warden and hi party does an awful lot of walking while carrying all the equipment they own?

So with boobs you can't walk, that's the point you're trying to make?

I take you've ignored everything that's been said?

I take it you don't read what's been said?

[Saibh]

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...


Gigantic breasts cause back problems, movement problems, would get in the way of wielding a sword or a bow

She's a mage so no actual sword use needed, back problems will occur in 30 years, so who cares and movement is not an issue really, if old men can move, so can a young woman, even with large boobs.

Old men can stay fit, and keep their muscles from getting atrophied. Women with extremely large breasts get problems concerning the things already mentioned, even if they're not being very active.

Again, if it's just Bethany, or a few people, with her character model, that's fine. But if it's everyone, they will be using swords and wearing heavy armor.

Why Beth is not fit? Boobs atrophied her muscles? c'mon.

Age atrophies your muscles, which is why old men aren't fit.

Gigantic breasts are (can you believe it?) gigantic, get in the way, cause back problems, and are only a hindrance. The more working out you do, the smaller your breasts get unless you're specifically doing work out regimins to keep your body looking toned and voluptuous.

[Dave of Canada]

Maverick827 wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

im not being selfish, and neither is any other guy out there. A game features a male protagonist that is a barbarian and wears only linen pants. "hey cool, I like this character, I like how he thinks, how he fights"
Physical apperance is irrelevant to us

<- Man who hates games like Gears of War because of the s***** meathead protagonists.

Watch this.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 31 août 2010 - 04:46 .

[Arttis]

They need to make metal bras that wrap around the body for women with huge breasts!

[Mecha Tengu]

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
???

im not being selfish, and neither is any other guy out there. A game features a male protagonist that is a barbarian and wears only linen pants. "hey cool, I like this character, I like how he thinks, how he fights"
Physical apperance is irrelevant to us

a game features a female protagonist that wears a metal bikini and a cape and helmet "Wow so revealing, I am offended, fcking fan service"
????? why so mad? you have half naked men, we can't have half naked women

We don't want half-naked men. Men who say that are only trying to desperately justify their wanting of half-naked women.

And, again, strong, masculine men appeal to men too, as their avatars and heroes. Not all of them. But many, which is why it's there to begin with. If equal fanservice was the norm, then I wouldn't even be arguing with you, since women would have reasonable chest because we, again, don't care for half-naked men nearly as much as you care for half-naked women.

This isn't us being selfish, this is you wanting to have your cake and eat it too and pretending we got a slice, when all we got off were your leftovers.

so does this mean we're not allowed to have half naked women?

[Laine the Wise]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Because it's what men want to see. It's what they want in their heroes, in their avatars.

Not me. One of the reasons I like Hawke is because from what has been shown he isn't with a 200 pack.

I somewhat share this point of view. For example, I never looked at Gerard Butler in the movie 300 and thought "Whoa, that guy is ripped--he's a badass; the epitome of a man" or anything like that; nor did anybody that I know. On that note, I find this situation to be odd--I actually disagree with Saibh on this one. Personally, nobody that I know has ever shared the mindset that you are describing. Perhaps it has something to do with the environment, but I just can't see that statement holding true for the majority. I could probably see it being true for the people who are "hardcore" warrior fans, but most people in my experience don't think that muscle is a big deal.

In any case, I don't mind anyone who wants to reduce or increase the breast size of their character to a more preferred size. Personally, I don't agree that Bethany's breasts look particularly ridiculous (and that isn't because of a male bias). I see women everyday who are similar in terms of apparent weight and bust size, although I'd say that Bethany does seem to be a bit exaggerated. For a mage, that's not necessarily a problem in terms of practicality but for a warrior class it may be. So, no, I don't think that her body model at that stage should be the standard come launch, and I hope that we will have more variety in the NPCs (Aveline?) and even our own PCs when we come to that point.

Modifié par Laine the Wise, 31 août 2010 - 04:48 .

[Arttis]

I believe big breasts have done nothing to hurt anyone.

[Mecha Tengu]

MariSkep wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote..

Bethany has just the right proportions 

Fact is in fantasy, so far, old people have been ok mages, besides their lower physique and a young girl wont be coz of her boobs?

. Fact is, women will actually play this game and want to see reasonable character models for their girls.

why can't women just chill. We don't care if male models are horrible fat, muscular, thin, tall, short, ugly. Its fantasy, why should it offend someone? 

Not as if fat guys get offended when a character is fat, or guys get offended when a male character doesn't wear anything but leaves. Its a character, enjoy, play the game. Don't ruin it for others

Why can't you? Why are you so selfish that your personal fantasies--despite logic to the contrary--must be met, but not our reasonable idea? 

What we proposes pleases everyone. What you propose pleases only you and people like you.

???

im not being selfish, and neither is any other guy out there. A game features a male protagonist that is a barbarian and wears only linen pants. "hey cool, I like this character, I like how he thinks, how he fights"
Physical apperance is irrelevant to us

a game features a female protagonist that wears a metal bikini and a cape and helmet "Wow so revealing, I am offended, fcking fan service"
????? why so mad? you have half naked men, we can't have half naked women

oh my god, he;s soooo enlightened. Look at him. He;s totally better than all of us.

enjoying your cheesecake?

[Maverick827]

When did the potency of nakedness even come into the picture? No one was talking about the lack of clothing, but rather the unrealistic qualities of certain body types.

[Dave of Canada]

Arttis wrote...

I believe big breasts have done nothing to hurt anyone.

Except nearly crippling and killing my cousin, not at all.

[Arttis]

I dare say that bethany has a magical bra that she had enchanted to give her unreal support.

[uuuhcantthinkofaname]

The human female bodies in Origins were just so damn awful to me.
The boobs were about the same size as their heads,  and it was topped off with broad shoulders and noodle arms.

My ideal female Hawke would probably have the same body-type as femshep with more athletic muscle tone added.

Modifié par uuuhcantthinkofaname, 31 août 2010 - 04:52 .

[Lyssistr]

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Saibh wrote...


Gigantic breasts cause back problems, movement problems, would get in the way of wielding a sword or a bow

She's a mage so no actual sword use needed, back problems will occur in 30 years, so who cares and movement is not an issue really, if old men can move, so can a young woman, even with large boobs.

Old men can stay fit, and keep their muscles from getting atrophied. Women with extremely large breasts get problems concerning the things already mentioned, even if they're not being very active.

Again, if it's just Bethany, or a few people, with her character model, that's fine. But if it's everyone, they will be using swords and wearing heavy armor.

Why Beth is not fit? Boobs atrophied her muscles? c'mon.

Age atrophies your muscles, which is why old men aren't fit.

Gigantic breasts are (can you believe it?) gigantic, get in the way, cause back problems, and are only a hindrance. The more working out you do, the smaller your breasts get unless you're specifically doing work out regimins to keep your body looking toned and voluptuous.

I know how muscle mass reduces with age, the point is that since in fantasy worlds even old men can do it, a young girl with boobs won't?

There is nothing in the way for mages, they cast spells. Back problems in an RPG? will be the first time it happens.