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What does that have to do with breasts?  Cammy's ass is always visible and has been since she's was introduced into the SF series.  What point are you trying to make?


I think the point was body proportions and being of some use in a fight. Not sure though. 

btw, GSB was showing quiet the eyeful. Over half her breasts are exposed. That counts as revealing especially ina  conservative place like Fereldan where no one does that.


You got it

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Anyway . It's easier to fit someone like Hawke in a sword and board video game than some fatty wearing glasse.Since every guy would go - OMG THAT SO FAKE!





While a woman it's the boobified model who fear breaking a nail.

I'm out.



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Suprez30 wrote...

The second is oversexualized
The first one is the original

Making a reference to the pic someone posted earlier.They aren't the original
So who look like a fighter and a playboy model?


There's two problems with that argument, though.

1) If you turned the first cammy picture around, you would see her wearing the equivalent of a thong just as she is in the second picture.

2)  The second picture's costume is actually an alternate costume for Cammy in SF4, which you can choose and see her fight in.

Cammy has a thong no matter what costume she's wearing, though, and one of her victory poses is turning around to the camera and basically showing off her ass.  So I still don't see your point.

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toastymckracker wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

The second is oversexualized
The first one is the original

Making a reference to the pic someone posted earlier.They aren't the original
So who look like a fighter and a playboy model?


There's two problems with that argument, though.

1) If you turned the first cammy picture around, you would see her wearing the equivalent of a thong just as she is in the second picture.

2)  The second picture's costume is actually an alternate costume for Cammy in SF4, which you can choose and see her fight in.

Cammy has a thong no matter what costume she's wearing, though, and one of her victory poses is turning around to the camera and basically showing off her ass.  So I still don't see your point.


you honestly don't see the difference between the two pics?

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So long as they add in a female elf love interest, I'll be happy.  >.<

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I dont want large breasts on my female warrior or rogue, because it seems really unrealistic that , especially, a female rogue with so such boobs would be agile and fast. ( I remember a stroy about a tribe, where their female fighters cut off one breast to be able to fire a bow)
In my opinion there should be different character models. Some unique one's for vip npc's like Bethany, Flemeth or Varric.
Then, i would like to have 3 models for each gender. One with very defined muscles on both sides and average breastsize. ( warrior class) Then one with less defined muscles, even a bit weighty on both sides. ( mage class) I personally dont like mages with 8-packs and arm muscles like warriors , who wielding a twohander. The third one should be the one for the rogues. Skinny, with very low bodyfat but not so big muscles like the warriors. The boobs should be a little bit smaller than average, cause its all about good movement and agility as a rogue.

That would be my favourite choice.

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I'd just like some kind of muscle tone/hypertrophy slider.

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The amazons cutting of one of their breast to be better at archery is a myth.



Regarding bodysizes, sure more variations would be nice but I don't like the idea of them depending on class, because there is nothing that stops a mage from doing workout or a woman with bigger than average breasts to adopt a fighting style more depending on skill and guile,like a rogue, than depending on brute force.of a warrior. Not to mention that the various sizes would create problems with the armor, unless the engine gets a total rework.



On armor itself, I dont mind armor showing some skin as long as it is equal for both sexes. A bad example for this is Warhammer online (the bikini of a sorceress morphs into an anklelenght nightshirt on a male toon), a good example would be Age of Conan (look at the Tier armour for Tempest of Seth or others)

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toastymckracker wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

The second is oversexualized
The first one is the original

Making a reference to the pic someone posted earlier.They aren't the original
So who look like a fighter and a playboy model?


There's two problems with that argument, though.

1) If you turned the first cammy picture around, you would see her wearing the equivalent of a thong just as she is in the second picture.

2)  The second picture's costume is actually an alternate costume for Cammy in SF4, which you can choose and see her fight in.

Cammy has a thong no matter what costume she's wearing, though, and one of her victory poses is turning around to the camera and basically showing off her ass.  So I still don't see your point.


Seriously i have nothing to add . Because i don't know if you're serious or trying something.

*edit* removed the picture lol .

Okay

Wearing a thong it's okay for fighting.Just like wearing pamper(Sumo guy)

It's not her alternate costume .Far from it.
Her waist are enlarged and her ass sexualized a lot more . Just like her boobies in the background picture are .. WATER MELON

Nothing wrong showing her ass.Nice ass too . I main cammy and i love it :P .. Just like when Arny flex his muscle in Conan the barbarian.Nothing wrong with it.They show a purpose just like Chun li thight or the fatness of a Sumo or the size of a professional wrestler(Normaly short and bulky) . While the WWF type of wrestler are normaly very tall and way too much muscular (Hulk Hogan lol)

A man seen has attractive he's normaly athletic with a six pack.While a woman it's normaly the *I don't want to break a nail* type.So it's easier to go with the male  muscular type and please girl and guy while the woman it's normaly the Barb Wire type .

Modifié par Suprez30, 31 août 2010 - 12:30 .


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Regarding bodysizes, sure more variations would be nice but I don't like the idea of them depending on class, because there is nothing that stops a mage from doing workout or a woman with bigger than average breasts to adopt a fighting style more depending on skill and guile,like a rogue, than depending on brute force.of a warrior. Not to mention that the various sizes would create problems with the armor, unless the engine gets a total rework.


I agree for the most part. A mage would have to physically fit to survive out in a combat enviornment and on the road. There isn't anything stopping a warrior from developing skills based more on technique rather than brute force (and a warrior should.) 

And I realize that the flotation devices BioWare has attached to the chests' of women of DA2 aren't going anywhere. :/ And that makes me sad...

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www.youtube.com/watch

This is for all the boob discussion. I think it speaks for itself.
Mildly NSFW, but only if you dislike depictions of "love" scenes. And large fake breasts.

Modifié par Russalka, 31 août 2010 - 12:08 .


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first off wikipedia! AAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. that explains alot given that the information on wikipedia might as well be edited by a three year old. anyway see you guys later im gone for now. 


Oh, you little puppy, you, who never learned how to properly use sources and citations. God bless your naive heart.


oh really what citation what proof do you have that s actually reliable anything can be edited on wikipedia. 

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Saibh wrote...

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VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.:D


You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?


LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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H_Itachi wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.:D


You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?


LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Dance, money!*hurls rocks at Itachi* Dance!

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MariSkep wrote...

H_Itachi wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Arttis wrote...

VIdeo games means failure to accept reality in its entirety,
Acceppting reality is a successful life.:D


You would then argue that enjoying books, movies, comic books, animations, theatre, or anything else that does not occur strictly in real life makes you a failure?


LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Dance, money!*hurls rocks at Itachi* Dance!


O_O Stares***!

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Bethany's bust is in alpha stage. Just wait till you guys see beta.




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slimgrin wrote...

Bethany's bust is in alpha stage. Just wait till you guys see beta.


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:lol:

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Bethany is an annoyance already.

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they are covered.. alot. not enough going on imo to stir this kinda reaction. i just hope there is variety amoung all characters

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Subdivide wrote...

they are covered.. alot. not enough going on imo to stir this kinda reaction. i just hope there is variety amoung all characters


The complaints don't really have much to do with how much skin she's showing but how unrealistic they are and how cumbersome they would be to anyone who had to lead an active lifestyle.

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Saibh wrote...
And your body type, many women have it naturally? It doesn't cause you back pain? You frequently lift swords and wear armor and traverse countries?

We've said it before, I am not affronted that Bethany's body type exists. But it should not be the default female model, as it is shaping up to be.

This 36E girl does actually practise sword daily.  In fact, the tendency to hunch shoulders a bit forward because of the bust is something of a posture problem that I need to work on improving if I want to get better at sword.  Plus, in the (two-handed) sword style I follow, you're supposed to bring your elbows together to make the downward cut very swift, and I've had to figure out my own way of doing that with my breasts in the way!  But it is quite possible to practise martial arts, even so. 

Accordingly,  I'm all for not stigmatizing women like me, implying we're unrealistic bimbos who could never fight with breasts like those, etc.  But by no means do I think that we should be the standard.  I would like standard female PCs to have nice, healthy bodies that look good to female players, not just male ones. 

So, if there is a large bosom, the arms and legs should not look like thin little sticks by comparison.  They should be in proportion.  Conversely, if the devs decide to go for a more slender body build, then smaller breasts would be appropriate.  One should look at the aesthetics of the body as a whole, not just focus on one aspect of it.

maxernst wrote...

It's a bit of a shame that all the males
and females have the same body in the game...it would be nice to have
more variety--ideally, different shapes for rogue, mage and warrior.

This is all very well, and I'd find it great if the devs took this approach.  But, ultimately, it's zots spent where they don't need to be spent.  All player character armour that can be equipped would have to have a different model based on body shape.  It's a lot of work - work that could be used to make the story more awesome.

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Hmm... I have an idea... What if in the future when bioware puts a really over-the-top busty woman in the party as a member and love interest, they add to her character back pain... I can see it now...haha!



Hawke proposes rolling in the hay. ;)



Busty party member: You know, normally I'd say yes but...my back really hurts! Why not give me a back massage first and we'll see where it goes from there?



Hawke: Ugh...thwarted by the back pain again!



You know...I wouldn't have a problem with the busty women if they had situations like that. ~chuckles~

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hello wimminz wants going on

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Beocat wrote...

Hmm... I have an idea... What if in the future when bioware puts a really over-the-top busty woman in the party as a member and love interest, they add to her character back pain... I can see it now...haha!

Hawke proposes rolling in the hay. ;)

Busty party member: You know, normally I'd say yes but...my back really hurts! Why not give me a back massage first and we'll see where it goes from there?

Hawke: Ugh...thwarted by the back pain again!

You know...I wouldn't have a problem with the busty women if they had situations like that. ~chuckles~


That would be so much fun if it were actually in game and not something going on in the back of my head because I know what all that traveling will do to your feet and back even without the added weight of 'endowment.'

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I just wanted to add that i think lithe and kind of athletic woman are way more attractive than the busty barbie dolls we see so often. I am a bit curious if i am alone in that matter? I simply dont get it why a lot of guys seem to root for the big chested woman? Especially since this... specific anatomial structure let most of their action in actionRPGs border on the redicioulus side. :s

I for my part thought that elika from Prince of Persia was simply beautiful. True she showed skin too and all that, but i thought it was very tastefull.

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Obviously her Clothing and the bright watercolours dont fit into DragonAge, but thats not the point.

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