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[tmp7704]

Sejborg wrote...

I know. I have the game for my PS3. And I have different shapes of light armor. Some show the belly, some don't, some show a little of the chest, and some don't. That's what I got in my ps3 version. 

They all use the same, single mesh though so the shapes really aren't different   There's Dalish armour which shows bare midriff in addition to the exposed chest, and other variants either cover the arms/legs or don't, but as far as i know there's no female light armour in default game that covers the chest similar to how the male version does it, all variants expose it in very similar manner. If your game has one that doesn't, i'd be curious which armour is that.

[Lyssistr]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

On the most part? No. When was the last time you saw a genuinely athletic women, such as a swimmer or a gymnast, with large breasts? If you are constantly active, constantly working out - which presumably both Hawkes will be doing - the fat in the breasts gets used up. No more big breasts.

So, yes, for me, it is a bit game breaking to have every. single. female with large breasts. Particularly those who are warriors and rogues.

Heroic is not the same as athletic, also specifically Bethany is a mage after all, not a warrior.

And you avoid this nifty thing:

It's hard for some of us to immerse ourselves in a respectable female character who is meant to be some heroic icon, fierce and worthy of note, only to have some unrealistic eye-candy slapped on her chest that we really won't enjoy. Regardless of whether or not it was the designer's intention, if it turns out Lady Hawke will have a chest as large as Bethany, it will feel like that they weren't thinking about the female player. Instead, it will feel like they were thinking about the men who prefer to play as women.

Regardless of whether or not large breasts need an excuse, it still feels like that the developers have placed their female demograph second, and that Lady Hawke will most likely be as endowed as Bethany. Why does that bother me? I already said why, and I highly doubt I'm alone.

You can't really argue that, it's hard to extrapolate from a forum, sample's too small to see if women mind boobs or not. 

[Shadow_broker]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...


Your opinion is not fact. That said, no one is against some characters having large breasts. All characters having large breasts is what I'm personally against. Why? It's honestly not realistic, nor does it really say anything positive about how Bioware could view their male and female demograph.

Big boobs don't need an excuse, they just happen. Having big boobs is not a matter of behavior to excuse. I don't agree they're not realistic, women have boobs at Bethany's size they are within normal bounds, yet large. Having all characters like that is different but again it wouldn't need an excuse.

 
Regardless of whether or not you're all 'BIG BEWBS! SEXAH!" does not means everyone is going to be like that, women in particular. Why? It's hard for some of us to immerse ourselves in a respectable female character who is meant to be some heroic icon, fierce and worthy of note, only to have some unrealistic eye-candy slapped on her chest that we really won't enjoy. Regardless of whether or not it was the designer's intention, if it turns out Lady Hawke will have a chest as large as Bethany, it will feel like that they weren't thinking about the female player. Instead, it will feel like they were thinking about the men who prefer to play as women.

 So a woman with big boobs can't be a heroic figure? and boobs break immersion?

On the most part? No. When was the last time you saw a genuinely athletic women, such as a swimmer or a gymnast, with large breasts? If you are constantly active, constantly working out - which presumably both Hawkes will be doing - the fat in the breasts gets used up. No more big breasts.

So, yes, for me, it is a bit game breaking to have every. single. female with large breasts. Particularly those who are warriors and rogues.

And you avoid this nifty thing:

It's hard for some of us to immerse ourselves in a respectable female character who is meant to be some heroic icon, fierce and worthy of note, only to have some unrealistic eye-candy slapped on her chest that we really won't enjoy. Regardless of whether or not it was the designer's intention, if it turns out Lady Hawke will have a chest as large as Bethany, it will feel like that they weren't thinking about the female player. Instead, it will feel like they were thinking about the men who prefer to play as women.

Regardless of whether or not large breasts need an excuse, it still feels like that the developers have placed their female demograph second, and that Lady Hawke will most likely be as endowed as Bethany. Why does that bother me? I already said why, and I highly doubt I'm alone.

As i pointed out a few pages ago, I have many athletes at my campus who are well endowed and participate in sports just as fine as the girls who aren't as big. It's burden but big boobs do not make physical activity impossible.
Also just because one outfit makes boobs look big dosen't mean they all will, Calm down Bioware already promised no Chain bikini's so if it really bothers you that much Spec arcane warrior.
All men are ripped in Dragon age even the ones who aren't fighting you don't see me complaining how unrealistic that is female gamers Overreacting to one screenshot

[Shadow_broker]

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

[Lord Gremlin]

Sejborg wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Sejborg is ignorant. There were a lot of female warriors during course of history. Although usually they didn't have big breasts, due to the fact that most of breast tissue consist of fat and active lifestyle doesn't really helps increasing amount of fat in the body... Of course hormones play a big role here, but still.
I think Sejborg needs to find a female soldier and tell her about his believes. I just love it, when girl severely beats a guy. Well, some other guy, not me, of course...

Okay. How many females do you think can take down... say Mike Tyson? If the Warden was real do you think Tyson would stand a chance against such a maniac? Somebody mentioned reality, and I tried to point out that Dragon Age is not reality.

I think you should find some stairs to fall down from. I just love when people fall down the stairs. Not me though or anyone else. Just you. 

edited a lot of spelling errors. 

I usually avoid stairs - THEY sent them, didn't they? They onto me!

The point is, there were and there are female warriors. So this doesn't feel unreal. Now, the way DA portrays them may look unreal, but that's another thing.
Hm. Speaking of Tyson - is he allowed to use a sword? AK-47? A mace? Because hand-to-hand combat is a bit different...

[Lyssistr]

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Ad hominem is their last resort, there's nothing else to argue when breasts like that exist in the real world. 

[finnugold]

My main problem is not that women in video games are typically portrayed with large breasts, but that they look like toothpicks that could be blown over with a soft wind while the men are relatively muscular. I would expect a female adventurer to be muscular.



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I don't care if you think muscles on a woman are gross. I want to play a female warrior who looks like that.

[mllrthyme]

Danjaru wrote...

Of course they can, but only effective when fighting other females.

I respectfully disagree, and this is coming from a woman who successfully made one of her male buddies tap out during a playful wrestling match.  Oh, and he did have about 30 pounds on me.  It's really not that hard to cut off air flow if you're in shape and inventive.

But I do agree with you on the pot-bellies.  That would be awesome, especially on Ogren.

Modifié par mllrthyme, 31 août 2010 - 08:29 .

[Clover Rider]

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Some men do get like that over talking about boobs .

[Shadow_broker]

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Some men do get like that over talking about boobs .

but not all.

[Clover Rider]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Some men do get like that over talking about boobs .

but not all.

Yup me :happy:.

[Lord Gremlin]

finnugold wrote...

My main problem is not that women in video games are typically portrayed with large breasts, but that they look like toothpicks that could be blown over with a soft wind while the men are relatively muscular. I would expect a female adventurer to be muscular.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:iqe-X_EvOpX-QM:http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/Menschoir/art%20stuff/memoriesoficedk8.jpg&t=1[/img]
I don't care if you think muscles on a woman are gross. I want to play a female warrior who looks like that.

Now this is a proper character design, looking nice and believable. Add beheaded body of Conan the Barbarian on the right to complete the picture.

[ErichHartmann]

finnugold wrote...

My main problem is not that women in video games are typically portrayed with large breasts, but that they look like toothpicks that could be blown over with a soft wind while the men are relatively muscular. I would expect a female adventurer to be muscular.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:iqe-X_EvOpX-QM:http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/Menschoir/art%20stuff/memoriesoficedk8.jpg&t=1[/img]
I don't care if you think muscles on a woman are gross. I want to play a female warrior who looks like that.

That bothers me more than anything about Bethany, she needs more meat on her bones.     

[Dave of Canada]

*post fail*

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 31 août 2010 - 08:31 .

[CrookedAsylum]

Lyssistr wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

On the most part? No. When was the last time you saw a genuinely athletic women, such as a swimmer or a gymnast, with large breasts? If you are constantly active, constantly working out - which presumably both Hawkes will be doing - the fat in the breasts gets used up. No more big breasts.

So, yes, for me, it is a bit game breaking to have every. single. female with large breasts. Particularly those who are warriors and rogues.

Heroic is not the same as athletic, also specifically Bethany is a mage after all, not a warrior.

And you avoid this nifty thing:

It's hard for some of us to immerse ourselves in a respectable female character who is meant to be some heroic icon, fierce and worthy of note, only to have some unrealistic eye-candy slapped on her chest that we really won't enjoy. Regardless of whether or not it was the designer's intention, if it turns out Lady Hawke will have a chest as large as Bethany, it will feel like that they weren't thinking about the female player. Instead, it will feel like they were thinking about the men who prefer to play as women.

Regardless of whether or not large breasts need an excuse, it still feels like that the developers have placed their female demograph second, and that Lady Hawke will most likely be as endowed as Bethany. Why does that bother me? I already said why, and I highly doubt I'm alone.

You can't really argue that, it's hard to extrapolate from a forum, sample's too small to see if women mind boobs or not. 

Hawke is rising up to seize power, most likely by brutal force if the title Champion of Kirkwall is anything to go by.  And what of the mother who, too, has large breasts that should be sagging but aren't?

And we don't mind breasts. Really, we don't. We don't mind large breasts either. But a lot do mind when every woman seems to have them, regardless of lifestyle and how active they are in life.

Regardless, I didn't say all women would agree with me. I said that I doubt I was alone in feeling that all women having large breasts is unrealistic, and that people would be disappointed if Lady Hawke carried the same genes as Bethany.. If this topic, and the former "This Thread is About Boobs" topic is anything to go by, then I wasn't exaggerating my assumption.

[Ciryx]

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Nuuu tis not true!
But u must admit that statements like: "woman cant fight anyhow", "its fiction anyways, so gimme big boobs all over" and the like dont rly shine the best light on your side of the conversation/discussion.
If someone defends big boobs out of another reason than just "i like the look of big boobz" noone will have a problem with it and discuss it srsly. Tis doesnt mean there is anything wrong with liking the look of big boobs, its just that the ones that dont like em have a LOT more arguments on their side to support their claim for a normalized bustsize.

See 'tis side too!

[Shadow_broker]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

finnugold wrote...

My main problem is not that women in video games are typically portrayed with large breasts, but that they look like toothpicks that could be blown over with a soft wind while the men are relatively muscular. I would expect a female adventurer to be muscular.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:iqe-X_EvOpX-QM:http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/Menschoir/art%20stuff/memoriesoficedk8.jpg&t=1[/img]
I don't care if you think muscles on a woman are gross. I want to play a female warrior who looks like that.

Now this is a proper character design, looking nice and believable. Add beheaded body of Conan the Barbarian on the right to complete the picture.

Ehh[img]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sick.png[/img]Not attractive at all sorry, Bethany and fem hawke can look like this but i'd prefer they keep the Man Arms and face off LI

[Lord Gremlin]

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Some men do get like that over talking about boobs .

but not all.

Yup me :happy:.

Meh, too large boobs aren't that sexy. Seriously. Beauty is in harmony and harmony is beauty.

Also, cake is a lie.

[Danjaru]

mllrthyme wrote...

Danjaru wrote...

Of course they can, but only effective when fighting other females.

I respectfully disagree, and this is coming from a woman who successfully made one of her male buddies tap out during a playful wrestling match.  Oh, and he did have about 30 pounds on me.  It's really not that hard to cut off air flow if you're in shape and inventive.

But I do agree with you on the pot-bellies.  That would be awesome, especially on Ogren.

A male warrior vs a female one, male wins every time. Everyone knows this <.<..
Also I've tapped out against female friends or let them hit me. Doesn't mean they're stronger.

Having males fight eachother and females fighting eachother in MMA and whatnot is not to protect the males.

Modifié par Danjaru, 31 août 2010 - 08:35 .

[Clover Rider]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Shadow_broker wrote...

And i think it's rather ignorant to assume anyone who defends The boobs are a horny basterd as many of you seem to be doing

Some men do get like that over talking about boobs .

but not all.

Yup me :happy:.

Meh, too large boobs aren't that sexy. Seriously. Beauty is in harmony and harmony is beauty.

Also, cake is a lie.

The cake is far from a lie :innocent:.

[Lyssistr]

mllrthyme wrote...

Danjaru wrote...

Of course they can, but only effective when fighting other females.

I respectfully disagree, and this is coming from a woman who successfully made one of her male buddies tap out during a playful wrestling match.  Oh, and he did have about 30 pounds on me.  It's really not that hard to cut off air flow if you're in shape and inventive.

tap out? then this would be submission wrestling, not wrestling. Iirc greco-roman & freestyle wrestling doesn't have a women's division in the olympics. 

 In any case, there's a reason why women and men don't fight together in boxing, wrestling and mma, even if their weight is the same. It's not that women can't physically fight but in a bare hands fight they are at disadvantage against a man of the same weight who is as trained. Of course none of this really matters in "war" (eg in a 4 person squad where people are armored and can use magic) because weapons & tactics phase much of this out.

[Ciryx]

finnugold wrote...

My main problem is not that women in video games are typically portrayed with large breasts, but that they look like toothpicks that could be blown over with a soft wind while the men are relatively muscular. I would expect a female adventurer to be muscular.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:iqe-X_EvOpX-QM:http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/Menschoir/art%20stuff/memoriesoficedk8.jpg&t=1[/img]
I don't care if you think muscles on a woman are gross. I want to play a female warrior who looks like that.

I like it very much. Especially the defined muscles in the arm. For an female Warrior that is.

[Shadow_broker]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

On the most part? No. When was the last time you saw a genuinely athletic women, such as a swimmer or a gymnast, with large breasts? If you are constantly active, constantly working out - which presumably both Hawkes will be doing - the fat in the breasts gets used up. No more big breasts.

So, yes, for me, it is a bit game breaking to have every. single. female with large breasts. Particularly those who are warriors and rogues.

Heroic is not the same as athletic, also specifically Bethany is a mage after all, not a warrior.

And you avoid this nifty thing:

It's hard for some of us to immerse ourselves in a respectable female character who is meant to be some heroic icon, fierce and worthy of note, only to have some unrealistic eye-candy slapped on her chest that we really won't enjoy. Regardless of whether or not it was the designer's intention, if it turns out Lady Hawke will have a chest as large as Bethany, it will feel like that they weren't thinking about the female player. Instead, it will feel like they were thinking about the men who prefer to play as women.

Regardless of whether or not large breasts need an excuse, it still feels like that the developers have placed their female demograph second, and that Lady Hawke will most likely be as endowed as Bethany. Why does that bother me? I already said why, and I highly doubt I'm alone.

You can't really argue that, it's hard to extrapolate from a forum, sample's too small to see if women mind boobs or not. 

Hawke is rising up to seize power, most likely by brutal force if the title Champion of Kirkwall is anything to go by.  And what of the mother who, too, has large breasts that should be sagging but aren't?

And we don't mind breasts. Really, we don't. We don't mind large breasts either. But a lot do mind when every woman seems to have them, regardless of lifestyle and how active they are in life.

Regardless, I didn't say all women would agree with me. I said that I doubt I was alone in feeling that all women having large breasts is unrealistic, and that people would be disappointed if Lady Hawke carried the same genes as Bethany.. If this topic, and the former "This Thread is About Boobs" topic is anything to go by, then I wasn't exaggerating my assumption.

Hawkes moms boobs WERE saggy IMO and we've only seen what 3 women from screen shots? and correct me if i'm wrong but aveline was almost completley flat chested

[Maverick827]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Someone lock this thread....It's terrible and goes something like this

Female gamer: Big boobs are impossible!
Male gamer: So is every guy being ripped
Female gamer: Completley diffrent situation that makes complete sense
Ect...

Please don't take "male gamer" to mean "man" when, by your dialog, it should actually mean "immature boy."

[Dave of Canada]

Shadow_broker wrote...

Hawkes moms boobs WERE saggy IMO and we've only seen what 3 women from screen shots? and correct me if i'm wrong but aveline was almost completley flat chested

You're wrong.