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[Onyx Jaguar]

Stanley Woo wrote...

i don't think it should be viewed as some kind of competition of "which gender does BioWare like most?" that's just silly. And proportions are a matter of artistic style. The fantasy genre has long has the well-muscled man and the buxom woman; they are idealized figures.

Which is why most games in this genre are stupid

I mean, this is easy... EASY

[Saibh]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

I did pose this question at you, and never received an answer. I asked it again directly to you.

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

You agree, then, that men's avatars are created that way for men, and not women, since you evidently believe games are made for men by men (even if you're wrong)? If that's the case, there is no double standard. In that case, you are getting two things that you want. The fact that women find muscular men sexy is a by-product, by your own admission.

I made this analogy earlier: You want to have your cake and eat it too and pretend as if women got a slice while you're at it, while all we got were your leftovers.

Oh, also, a double standard only exists if I were actively campaigning for men to get more muscular, more ripped. I'm not. I'm all for more realistic models.

EDIT: Also, I've never called you sexist or a troll. Not once. I've never called anyone on this thread either of those things, I'm pretty sure.

Modifié par Saibh, 01 septembre 2010 - 12:39 .

[Clover Rider]

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

[Dave of Canada]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

grrr I never made a specific reference for dragon age

I am talking about the entire industry

But we as a whole aren't debating the entire industry, we're talking about Bioware and Dragon Age. We want smaller breasts in Dragon Age, you're saying it's okay to have huge breasts in Dragon Age because Kratos in God of War is muscled?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 01 septembre 2010 - 12:40 .

[finnugold]

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I can see that. Dave of Canada appears to, as well.
Virtu-cookies for you both.

[Mecha Tengu]

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

[Onyx Jaguar]

Unless they are fat (or of appropriate proportions)or have children most women in the game should have appropriately sized breasts.



Bethany does not make any god damn sense



its Miranda from ME 2 all over again and it is lame.

[lv12medic]

Dave of Canada wrote...

We want smaller breasts in Dragon Age, you're saying it's okay to have huge breasts in Dragon Age because Kratos in God of War is muscled?

If A=B and B=C, then A=nutella apparently. 

[Ryngard]

Zevais wrote...

Seriously, sometimes I LOVE exaggerated proportions on FAKE women. It is eye candy to me, and I enjoy it. I am not going to go out and marry Molly Mounds with her 38KKK's holding a 2.5 gallons of silicone or even desire to go out with her.... but hey- can't I just at least LOOK? and ADMIRE?

I'm sorry but I want to voice my disagreement. Large breasts (especially those you describe) are HORRIBLY unattractive to me. The ladies in DA:O and ME are almost too large. A 34 B or C should be the standard tops.

They need to be proportionate to the body. Morrigan might have slightly larger breasts, but an athletic rogue like Lelianna would be smaller.

But yeah your "love" of "exaggerated proportions" is a nasty and unappealing thought for me. I prefer my ladies "normal".

[Mecha Tengu]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

grrr I never made a specific reference for dragon age

I am talking about the entire industry

But we as a whole aren't debating the entire industry, we're talking about Bioware and Dragon Age. We want smaller breasts in Dragon Age, you're saying it's okay to have huge breasts in Dragon Age because Kratos in God of War is muscled?

you WANT smaller breasts and you're a guy?

are you just trying to look good in front of these fat women or are you honestly geuninely concerned?

[Russalka]

Mecha Tengu wrote...
I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

Or maybe, you know, they have an opinion different from yours?

Good luck dodging a ban with that link.

[Clover Rider]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

But I have had sex and you are a bad troll .

Modifié par Some Geth, 01 septembre 2010 - 12:43 .

[finnugold]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

How on earth were they summoned? They came here by themselves, just as you did.

[Lord_Valandil]

Some Geth wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

But i have had sex and you are a bad troll .

Pwned.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

grrr I never made a specific reference for dragon age

I am talking about the entire industry

But we as a whole aren't debating the entire industry, we're talking about Bioware and Dragon Age. We want smaller breasts in Dragon Age, you're saying it's okay to have huge breasts in Dragon Age because Kratos in God of War is muscled?

you WANT smaller breasts and you're a guy?

are you just trying to look good in front of these fat women or are you honestly geuninely concerned?

YES WORSHIP PACKETS OF FAT PROTRUDING FROM ONE'S CHEST

[Dave of Canada]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

you WANT smaller breasts and you're a guy?

are you just trying to look good in front of these fat women or are you honestly geuninely concerned?

I'd rather want realistic storytelling and women than having giant fan service flashing infront of me. I'm fine with Bayonetta for example because that game was obvious fan service and it wasn't trying to be serious about it, yet you can't take a serious game and do something similar.

Edit: I'm also not obsessed about huge breasts like, according to you, all other "guys".

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 01 septembre 2010 - 12:44 .

[Clover Rider]

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

How on earth were they summoned? They came here by themselves, just as you did.

Yup no woman or man tells me what to do :innocent:.

[Mecha Tengu]

Russalka wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

Or maybe, you know, they have an opinion different from yours?

Good luck dodging a ban with that link.

I have a different opinion and most of the time I am called a troll for not conforming to what women want

I accept other opinions and I am not quick to rage or bash others, but I am willing to argue on why I dislike them. That is if you can debate back without succumbing to rage

[finnugold]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

Or maybe, you know, they have an opinion different from yours?

Good luck dodging a ban with that link.

I have a different opinion and most of the time I am called a troll for not conforming to what women want

I accept other opinions and I am not quick to rage or bash others, but I am willing to argue on why I dislike them. That is if you can debate back without succumbing to rage

You are called a troll for making insulting posts involving personal attacks, not for having a different opinion.

[Mecha Tengu]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

you WANT smaller breasts and you're a guy?

are you just trying to look good in front of these fat women or are you honestly geuninely concerned?

I'd rather want realistic storytelling and women than having giant fan service flashing infront of me. I'm fine with Bayonetta for example because that game was obvious fan service and it wasn't trying to be serious about it, yet you can't take a serious game and do something similar.

hmph fair enough

if it is to remove all distractions, then that's okay. I'd like a good story as well

[Russalka]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

I have a different opinion and most of the time I am called a troll for not conforming to what women want

I accept other opinions and I am not quick to rage or bash others, but I am willing to argue on why I dislike them. That is if you can debate back without succumbing to rage

So you do exactly the same things you blame others for.
And who is raging? 

[Dave of Canada]

slimgrin wrote...

How in the world is Beth's figure unrealistic? Has everybody been living in a cave? She is idealized , yes, but believe me her figure is modest compared to some women I have known.

Compared to how modern women have implants and growth hormones in their food, such a figure would almost be impossible to reach in the setting with that waist.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

why don't I report you for all those ad hominem attacks

jks I would never use the threat of reporting someone to make up my failure in an internet debate

Oh, you mean like your failure to acknowledge why scaling down breasts isn't bad, how men's avatars being ripped isn't a double standard (way to prove yourself wrong, BTW), why games are not made only by men for only men, and so on?

what? I have never ignored any questions directed to me, ive always answered them, but because you dislike my answers you call be a mysoginist and a troll, and employ an army of fellow women to beat me down in gangs.

here are my answers (again, lets hope you dont ignore me this time)

1.  why would I want to shrink my eye candy? (other than "lulz its offensive to women" which I obviously disregard"

2.  Men's avatars are quite ripped and jacked, and it's cool. We are cool with it, and we do not whine. Where the double standard part comes in, is when the women are portrayed as extremely sexually attractive and perfect (as most men are in the media), and apparently girl gamers dislike this

3. most games are made by men for men. The words combat, tactics, and bloody violence appear to girls? 

Combat, tactics, and bloody violence appeal to me. Especially bloody violence. I enjoy hewing the heads of my enemies from their stubby, worthless necks and bathing in their gore.

Also, no one "employed" an "army" I came here of my own free will, as did everyone else.

I am a guy and I hate him :happy:.

I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

How on earth were they summoned? They came here by themselves, just as you did.

Yup no woman or man tells me what to do :innocent:.

[Mecha Tengu]

finnugold wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
I get that a lot, each time I argue with girl gamers, they summon a tribe of white knights to defend them from evil

Or maybe, you know, they have an opinion different from yours?

Good luck dodging a ban with that link.

I have a different opinion and most of the time I am called a troll for not conforming to what women want

I accept other opinions and I am not quick to rage or bash others, but I am willing to argue on why I dislike them. That is if you can debate back without succumbing to rage

You are called a troll for making insulting posts involving personal attacks, not for having a different opinion.

hey hey I didnt start with the personal attacks until you did first