Moiaussi wrote...
Pardon, but by the time the Quarians asked for intervention, the war was over. They had already evacuated. There were no additional Quarian lives to save.
So they did nothing then, how does that help your case? You'll have to forgive me when I say that it doesn't. The Quarian's were at war. The Quarian's were getting pushed back. You must be a politician (or some sort of public servant) if that is your position.
The Council didn't even send aid ships then.
Moiaussi wrote...
The Council did stand ready if the threat escalated. It didn't. And although the Geth heretics did provide a threat, they did not represent the main Geth fleet, who are now willing to ally against the Reavers.
The council stood ready to protect themselves and their own races, not those they are supposed to be serving (read; protecting) by its member states. Consider the Council as a realistic organisation, what do you think they would
realistically offer those so they could exercise some form of galactic coalition/government? Easier trade for one, but how can they realistically
enforce fair trade? By the application of military might where applicable, otherwise what's the point of Turian 'peacekeeping patrols?'
I fear you're starting to lose perspective with you arguing the whole geth heretic/true divide thing, because surely you're not obtuse enough to think that to the galaxy at large at the time that the geth were perceived that way. The Geth were perceived as just being the Geth. Heretics and the True Geth was only a relatively recent development due to the discovery of Nazara/Sovereign.
Moiaussi wrote...
Left a species out to die? Pardon, but the Migrant Fleet is alive and doing well, and are even plotting (foolishly) to attempt a counterattack on the Geth based on the foolish notion that they are now the largest known fleet by default that therefore they are a match for the main Geth fleet, which has yet to reveal itself.
Now you're arguing semantics which is basically arguing from a weakened position. Surely you can agree that the Quarians weren't always confined to nomadic ships wandering the galaxy. They were a proud, technologically savy race that had their own burgeoning empire. This fell into ruin during their association with the Council by their own making yes, but the council did
nothing because, in your own words, they were a
liability.. To be specific though, I did also mention wallowing (as in, being in a bit of a flux).
Wallowing also accurately describes the Krogan because as Wrex likes to say: "We sure as hell aren't getting any stronger."
Moiaussi wrote...
It is much more ethical to engage in centuries of warfare than impose birth control? Difficult ethical debate, especially considering the Krogan birth rate.
I agree with this, but the birth control was enforced and robs the Krogan of their own decisions, taking advantage of their own warlike nature as opposed to their 'scientific' minds (although bear in mind, the Salarian's seem to constantly underestimate the Krogan scientific potential) to further the 'status quo.'
Maelon says to the effect that by playing to the Krogan tendency for inter tribal for breeding partners that they've basically ensured centuries of warfare within the Krogan own ranks anyway.
Moiaussi wrote...
That it was neccessary is also very relevant. It is the difference between shooting people for the sake of shooting people and shooting people in self defence. If you don't understand the difference....
Don't try to disguise your position when you're sitting on top of your high horse. The only reason we truly think the Genophage was necessary is because the STG, the Council, Mordin and the 'benefit of hindsight' tells us so. If the Genophage was deployed upon the Systems Alliance I doubt you'd be quite so ready to sell us on it's 'necessity,' but wait you'd probably dismiss that as being way too 'academic.'
For the sake of argument though; I think the Genophage was the correct thing to do, but I don't think it was just and probably for this reason alone I would say that the Council is just as much bastards than Cerberus, it would rank very low on my chivalry meter after all (barely above kicking dust into my opponents eyes...)
The difference between Cerberus and the Council, when it comes down to it, is that the atrocities committed in the Council's name happened in the past and has the benefit of being labelled as the paragon decision, whereas Cerberus has an evil sounding name, are ongoing and are of the renegade route.
Retour en haut
I'd have liked the option, even if it meant a Renegade score for it!
